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stubbscroll 
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I'm travelling to Germany tomorrow and will be gone for a week, so I won't have time to play this week's songs. Richard, I will send you a PM with my database scores for Before I forget and I'm in the band.
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Raikri999
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Hey, I think I might be interested in joining. Would that be okay with my scores? I think I'm pretty medicore to be honest, but I'm not sure myself. 
Just to note, I have every game excludding GH:80's and GH:VH, just because I haven't bought it yet, and I lost my GH5 receipt. >_< |
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RichardGHP
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| Jon wrote: | | By the way, Richard, you should get an Even Flow banner. That's a more difficult FC than Bulls On Parade, Sunshine Of Your Love, or School's Out. |
I considered it, and would like to add one more to each row, if I can find suitable ones. Granted, Even Flow is tougher, but I put considerably less time into FCing that than almost any other song in my FC repetoir.
Either way, I'll probably take out BoP (I'm proud of all of them, but I really can't stand the art for that one.) and replace it with Even Flow. Let's hope I can do it without having to rearrange my sig too much, banners all over the place and whatnot.
Ruben, I hope you enjoy yourself in Germany. How long is the flight to where you're going?
To Raikri999: We let anyone in the rivalry. Jon said himself in the OP, you are welcome to join even if you have TTFAF FC'd already. We've had people joining with upwards of 45 FCs (which I for one don't consider mediocre) and when I joined, I had a lousy 19. Sure, I have 27 now, but 19 wasn't much compared to other players.
In any case, you're pretty much in. You just have to wait for Jon to officially initiate you. 
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laupow17
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| Raikri999 wrote: | Hey, I think I might be interested in joining. Would that be okay with my scores? I think I'm pretty medicore to be honest, but I'm not sure myself.
Just to note, I have every game excludding GH:80's and GH:VH, just because I haven't bought it yet, and I lost my GH5 receipt. >_< |
Of course you can join. We've had someone join with 1 FC and we've had someone join with 62 FCs. That's a pretty broad range of acceptance.
EDIT: Also, the criteria for mediocre on this site is ridiculous. I've only met two people in my entire life who are able to 5 star a couple of songs on Expert, and they don't have a single FC. Most of the people who consider themselves really good aren't able to do much more than pass songs on Expert. I am pretty satisfied with my progress, though. In fact, the two people in question were the ones who got me to try Guitar Hero for the first time, so they've played longer, but *ahem* I've since caught up. 
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Jon's Goals:
FC 30 Expert GH3 songs [X], #30, Mauvais Garçon
FC 40 Expert GH3 songs [X] #40, Monsters
FC 50 Expert GH3 songs [ ] 49, Pride And Joy
FC 20 GH1X Songs [X] #20, Sharp Dressed Man
FC 25 GH1X Songs [ ]
My Accomplishment Thread
^^Please, please tell me what you think I should go for next! =)
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RichardGHP
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| laupow17 wrote: | | EDIT: Also, the criteria for mediocre on this site is ridiculous. I've only met two people in my entire life who are able to 5 star a couple of songs on Expert, and they don't have a single FC. Most of the people who consider themselves really good aren't able to do much more than pass songs on Expert. I am pretty satisfied with my progress, though. In fact, the two people in question were the ones who got me to try Guitar Hero for the first time, so they've played longer, but *ahem* I've since caught up. |
This, exactly. I was thinking a while back that all of the good players I know of are scattered in many countries - and I would never have found out about them had I not joined SH.
The best GH player aside from myself that I have ever met was still significantly worse than me - He could pass every song on RB2 (Which I could never do, given the engine) but not TTFAF on GH3. He said he had a few FCs, which is plausible, since I first passed TTFAF when I had around 10.
But for any activity, there are casual players and hardcore players. Pretty much only hardcore players take it to the extreme of joining a site dedicated to their hobby. We are some of those people.
-end rant...
Oh yeah, and good luck for this week.
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illiniguy
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I'm gonna pimp out my sig, 'cuz Richard's doing it. And if there's anything I've learned from church, it's that peer pressure is never negative and you should always give in.
EDIT: Done!
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RichardGHP
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| illiniguy wrote: | I'm gonna pimp out my sig, 'cuz Richard's doing it. And if there's anything I've learned from church, it's that peer pressure is never negative and you should always give in.
EDIT: Done! |
Great to see!
I've been aching to honestly display a Barracuda one for quite some time. 3's and 7's and MG as well. Hopefully I'll be able to replace some loleasy ones with some 'easy but impressive' ones.
Edit: Just out of pure curiosity, who were the people who joined with 1 and 62 FCs? 
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laupow17
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| RichardGHP wrote: | | illiniguy wrote: | I'm gonna pimp out my sig, 'cuz Richard's doing it. And if there's anything I've learned from church, it's that peer pressure is never negative and you should always give in.
EDIT: Done! |
Great to see!
I've been aching to honestly display a Barracuda one for quite some time. 3's and 7's and MG as well. Hopefully I'll be able to replace some loleasy ones with some 'easy but impressive' ones.
Edit: Just out of pure curiosity, who were the people who joined with 1 and 62 FCs? |
Guku416 had 62 (he now has 64)
Pokemaniac1 had 1
And while I agree with you about Mauvais Garcon being an easy yet impressive FC, I've seen a number of people that say that for them Mauvais Garcon is in their top 10 list of hardest FCs. I know Jesus feels that way, so I'm really going to try hard to not roll my eyes.... buuuuut.... no. It's just not that hard.
However, I've said it before and I'll say it again. 3's & 7's is underrated. It's easy to screw up anywhere, especially the ending. It's still a great FC to go for though because despite its trickiness, it is the easiest Tier 7 FC and getting a Tier 7 FC just feels awesome. Also, while I actually am not a fan of the whole FC banner thing, the 3's & 7's banner has always been one of my favorites.
EDIT: By the way, you guys should try to fluke your way into getting a Black Magic Woman FC like I did. It's an FC where either you have to be either extremely skilled or extremely lucky (I am the latter), but it still looks damn impressive to get it either way, and it's a very enviable banner even among the good players on ScoreHero.
EDIT #2: Now I'm pondering what FC banners I'd use IF I ever desired to put any braggy ones in my sig. Hypothetically, of course.
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Jon's Goals:
FC 30 Expert GH3 songs [X], #30, Mauvais Garçon
FC 40 Expert GH3 songs [X] #40, Monsters
FC 50 Expert GH3 songs [ ] 49, Pride And Joy
FC 20 GH1X Songs [X] #20, Sharp Dressed Man
FC 25 GH1X Songs [ ]
My Accomplishment Thread
^^Please, please tell me what you think I should go for next! =)
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RichardGHP
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I agree with you on 3's & 7's. (Sometimes I can't even get past the intro without a miss... I mean come on, how stupid is that?) But if you concentrate, it's easy, if you're not really focussed, you're prone to miss pretty much anywhere. I for instance recently had a -1 run, where I missed in the second chorus.
Black Magic Woman... not on my to-do list for a while yet. While it technically does fall into the category of 'easy but impressive', the fact that you either have to be extremely skilled or extremely lucky to hit the oranges automatically puts me out of the running for that FC for quite some time. I am one of those people that tries to hit every note precisely, in other words adjusting my strumming speed to hit the oranges. (And still failing epicly >______>
For me, it's something to think about around the 35-40 mark.
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AGwaG
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| RichardGHP wrote: |
Black Magic Woman... not on my to-do list for a while yet. While it technically does fall into the category of 'easy but impressive', the fact that you either have to be extremely skilled or extremely lucky to hit the oranges automatically puts me out of the running for that FC for quite some time. I am one of those people that tries to hit every note precisely, in other words adjusting my strumming speed to hit the oranges. (And still failing epicly >______>
For me, it's something to think about around the 35-40 mark. |
It was like 55 for me  I didn't play it for a long time, but when I got it I basically went into practice and figured out how many fast strums and how many slow strums there were, and counted really fast while I played (if you count in sets of 4 it's possible to count that fast) and I got the fc in just a few tries once I learned the neccessary numbers which I've since forgotten. One of them ends in an upstrum, the other in a downstrum, thats all I remember. I think they both switch to slow strumming on a downstrum? can't remember.
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illiniguy
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| laupow17 wrote: | | RichardGHP wrote: | | illiniguy wrote: | I'm gonna pimp out my sig, 'cuz Richard's doing it. And if there's anything I've learned from church, it's that peer pressure is never negative and you should always give in.
EDIT: Done! |
Great to see!
I've been aching to honestly display a Barracuda one for quite some time. 3's and 7's and MG as well. Hopefully I'll be able to replace some loleasy ones with some 'easy but impressive' ones.
Edit: Just out of pure curiosity, who were the people who joined with 1 and 62 FCs? |
Guku416 had 62 (he now has 64)
Pokemaniac1 had 1
And while I agree with you about Mauvais Garcon being an easy yet impressive FC, I've seen a number of people that say that for them Mauvais Garcon is in their top 10 list of hardest FCs. I know Jesus feels that way, so I'm really going to try hard to not roll my eyes.... buuuuut.... no. It's just not that hard.
However, I've said it before and I'll say it again. 3's & 7's is underrated. It's easy to screw up anywhere, especially the ending. It's still a great FC to go for though because despite its trickiness, it is the easiest Tier 7 FC and getting a Tier 7 FC just feels awesome. Also, while I actually am not a fan of the whole FC banner thing, the 3's & 7's banner has always been one of my favorites.
EDIT: By the way, you guys should try to fluke your way into getting a Black Magic Woman FC like I did. It's an FC where either you have to be either extremely skilled or extremely lucky (I am the latter), but it still looks damn impressive to get it either way, and it's a very enviable banner even among the good players on ScoreHero.
EDIT #2: Now I'm pondering what FC banners I'd use IF I ever desired to put any braggy ones in my sig. Hypothetically, of course. |
Yup yup yup, Jon's right. Mauvais Garcon barely cracks my ten hardest FCs: (This is a personal list, not a list for everyone. Example 1: TWiE isn't on it.)
10. Mauvais Garcon (Swing strumming is fail)
9. Knights of Cydonia (Fast strumming, and it lasts forever. TWiE is easier on account of stop-and-go)
8. Cult of Personality (Solo is tricky but possible)
7. Number of the Beast (Solo is hell)
6. Before I Forget (I suck at chords)
5. Take This Life (Other than TTFAF this is the only song I can't five star consistently)
4. Holiday in Cambodia (You read that right lol)
3. Raining Blood (Just the Flood. Oh yeah, and the rest of the song too)
2. One (FSA triplets are nearly impossible, then the ending of FSA, FSB, and FSD are all very chokable)
1. Through the Fire and Flames (Don't get me started)
3s and 7s is loleasy, I'm just waiting so it can be FC 37.
Keep working at Barracuda, Richard. The trill is hard but you can do it. If I can, you definitely can.
And Jon, I could put a "BMW Solo 2 FC" in my sig, but not a song FC. That really made me mad that I got Solo 2 in a real run but missed elsewhere.
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AGwaG
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| illiniguy wrote: |
(giant quote tunnel, then)
10. Mauvais Garcon (Swing strumming is fail)
9. Knights of Cydonia (Fast strumming, and it lasts forever. TWiE is easier on account of stop-and-go)
8. Cult of Personality (Solo is tricky but possible)
7. Number of the Beast (Solo is hell)
6. Before I Forget (I suck at chords)
5. Take This Life (Other than TTFAF this is the only song I can't five star consistently)
4. Holiday in Cambodia (You read that right lol)
3. Raining Blood (Just the Flood. Oh yeah, and the rest of the song too)
2. One (FSA triplets are nearly impossible, then the ending of FSA, FSB, and FSD are all very chokable)
1. Through the Fire and Flames (Don't get me started)
3s and 7s is loleasy, I'm just waiting so it can be FC 37.
Keep working at Barracuda, Richard. The trill is hard but you can do it. If I can, you definitely can.
And Jon, I could put a "BMW Solo 2 FC" in my sig, but not a song FC. That really made me mad that I got Solo 2 in a real run but missed elsewhere. |
I thought that way about TTL and BiF back when I had about 30 fcs, but I think you'll find as you get closer to that list in your fcs, you'll find that the ones people usually find easy will be the easiest for you too, Mauvais wont be on there, BiF wont be, TTL if you play it like once everytime you play GH3 will very quickly become much easier than you thought, so it'll drop to the lower end of that list, and FCP will go on that list FOR SURE.
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laupow17
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| AGwaG wrote: |
I thought that way about TTL and BiF back when I had about 30 fcs, but I think you'll find as you get closer to that list in your fcs, you'll find that the ones people usually find easy will be the easiest for you too, Mauvais wont be on there, BiF wont be, TTL if you play it like once everytime you play GH3 will very quickly become much easier than you thought, so it'll drop to the lower end of that list, and FCP will go on that list FOR SURE. |
I was just about to mention FCP. That's a definite top 10. And while I agree that Knights of Cydonia deserves a spot, so does TWIE (and I agree with you that the difficulty of that song is slightly overrated, but it still deserves a top 10 spot).
Before I Forget isn't that hard either. 
I'm going to split with AGwaG and say that Take This Life does deserve a top 10 as well. While I'm usually the first person to say a song's difficulty is overrated if it's just a repeating pattern, TTL's repeating pattern is hard for pretty much everyone.
My take on top 10 most difficult FCs overall
10) Take This Life (Don't Hold Back is pretty close though, although I also think that DHB's difficulty is a little overrated.)
9) Cult Of Personality
8) Number Of The Beast (I actually want to put COP here, but I'm actually pressing my luck putting COP on the list at all according to the wiki...)
7) Holiday In Cambodia
6) Knights Of Cydonia
5) The Way It Ends (I think the main problem here is just building up the endurance, so I put it here because I don't think there's a part of TWIE that is as difficult as what's in any of the songs below.)
4) F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X.
3) Raining Blood
2) One
1) Hm, I wonder
The 10 FCs that for me will probably be the hardest to get
10) Black Sunshine (I know this is surprising, but I really cannot hit the      part for shit, and it repeats like 15 times. And then you have the breakdown to worry about.)
9) Nothing For Me Here (pretty easy to screw up anywhere)
8) Take This Life
7) Knights of Cydonia (lrn2notgethandcramps)
6) The Way It Ends (see Knights of Cydonia)
5) Cult Of Personality (It really does shock me how easy some people find this song.)
4) F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X.
3) Raining Blood
2) One
1) That impossible song
Notice the absence of Holiday In Cambodia (I'm convinced that if I were determined enough to play this song over and over again, I'd get lucky once and hit the intro.)
Also, AGwaG, there's no shame in having BMW being your 55th. It's 60th on the wiki FC list.
55 Cliffs of Dover 13,555 729 5.38%
56 Impulse 11,151 531 4.76%
57 Rock You Like a Hurricane 13,603 620 4.56%
58 Cult of Personality 13,630 555 4.07%
59 Nothing for Me Here 8,906 353 3.96%
60 Black Magic Woman 12,938 501 3.87%
61 Take This Life 9,300 343 3.69%
62 Don't Hold Back 10,196 359 3.52%
63 The Number of the Beast 13,196 434 3.29%
64 Knights of Cydonia 13,485 382 2.83%
65 Holiday in Cambodia 13,657 356 2.61%
66 F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X. 9,803 253 2.58%
67 The Way It Ends 9,552 178 1.86%
68 Raining Blood 12,011 87 0.72%
69 Through the Fire and Flames 11,296 12 0.11%
70 One 13,638 12 0.09%
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Jon's Goals:
FC 30 Expert GH3 songs [X], #30, Mauvais Garçon
FC 40 Expert GH3 songs [X] #40, Monsters
FC 50 Expert GH3 songs [ ] 49, Pride And Joy
FC 20 GH1X Songs [X] #20, Sharp Dressed Man
FC 25 GH1X Songs [ ]
My Accomplishment Thread
^^Please, please tell me what you think I should go for next! =)
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RichardGHP
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: |
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2 Jesus, I can hit the Barracuda trill every single time. I don't ever remember missing it, in fact. Same thing with the thing in Verse 2 or 3 or something.
The triplets are giving me trouble. I find myself having to keep hold of the strum bar to hit them reliably, if I try to do them in 3 note bursts and let go of the strum bar, I either go too fast or not enough.
I did however make it to the outro once without a miss, only to choke 3 notes in the third to last rotation of the pattern.
Outro chokes are commonplace for me, I had 2 on She Bangs the Drums, 3 on Anarchy in the UK, 1 in Sunshine of Your Love, 2 in Minus Celsius, 3's & 7's, Closer, I'm gonna stop before I take up the whole damn page.
Though back on topic, I personally think that the trill in Barracuda is loleasy. It's the only thing I can hit every single time, and a good place to use SP. Why people struggle with it, I can't understand. Hell, I've hit it with 4th position with no tapping. Not to brag, but it's not THAT hard.
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illiniguy
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You guys are right that TWiE and FCP would go on that loist for most people. Not for me though. I'm aiming to get FCp as my 40th FC. And The Way it Ends is probably in the top 5 if not 4 for most people, but I can hit the verses anc choruses consistently. If I can grasp the chord change in the bridge and the strummy bit in the first solo, the song is mine. Looking back on it, I may have substituted Mauvais Garcon with Nothing for me Here. For me they're less like 60 and 61 and more like 61a and 61b, if you know what I mean.
As to Richard, yeah, Black Sunshine is a bitch. I've gotten better at the verse sweeps, but it's still hard to hit every single one of them. I've hit Breakdown a few times though. Just not in a run.
Oh yeah, and Richard also knows that there's a guy in the race to FGFC that has 60+ FCs and hasn't gotten In Love, simply because of how badly he chokes on it. That's pretty well the same deal with me and Mauvais Garcon.
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