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ccmoose
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 1170 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: War Ensemble Fills and My Sticking |
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Video Explanation
Some people have asked me how I hit certain fills in War Ensemble. So, these are the 11 fills in War Ensemble that I have taken the time to memorize. If you're having trouble with any of them, maybe my sticking method can help. Dots are for spacing purposes only.
I've added WarlordTm's sticking methods in blue. He offers a great alternative to someone who isn't "double-stroking like he is on crack" :-p Also, it's worth noting that WarlordTm plays on a 5-lane kit, and I came up with my sticking methods on a 4-lane kit in the traditional RB layout. So we have sticking recommendations for both kits now!
Fill #1 - Intro A
L R R L L. R R L L. R R L R
L R L R L. R L R L. R L R L
Fill #2 - Verse 1
R R L L. R R L R. L R L R
R L R L. R R L R. L R L R
Fill #3 - Verse 2
R R L. R R L R L. R R L L R L
L R L. R R L R L. R L R L R L
Fill #4 - Solo 1A
Same as Fill #1
Fill #5 - Mosh Riff 1
R R L L. R L R R L R. R L R R L R. R L R R L R L R R L L R L
R L R L. R L R R L R. R L R R L R. R L R R L R L R L R L R L
Fill #6 - Bridge 1
L R R L L. R R L R
L R L R L. R L R L
Fill #7 - Mosh Riff 2
Same as Fill #1
Fill #8 - Bridge 2
L R R. L L R L R R L L R R
L R L. R L R L R R L L R R
Fill #9 - Ready...
L L R R. L R L L R R L R R. L R R L R L L R L. R L R L R L R L R
R L R L. R L R L R R L R R L R R. L L R L R L R L. R L R L R L R
Fill #10 - Solo 2B
Same as Fill #1
Fill #11 - Chorus 3
R R L L R L R. L R R L R R L R R. L L R
R L R L R L R. L R R L R R L R R. L L R _________________
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Toodooloo
Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 689 Location: hi!
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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woah what the hell, there are this many fills that require odd stickings like this?
I wish I could say this made me give up on War Ensemble, but frankly I've done that a long time ago lol. _________________
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Sulfurus
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 700 Location: Swindon, England.
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Top post moose. Most useful.
Toodooloo wrote: | woah what the hell, there are this many fills that require odd stickings like this?
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I don't think you have to double-stroke quite as much as moose does, but yeah they're pretty nuts _________________
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Warhiem
Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Posts: 1331
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:55 am Post subject: |
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This reinforces my belief that this is the hardest song ever. I don't even try on the fills. _________________
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ccmoose
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 1170 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Sulfurus wrote: | I don't think you have to double-stroke quite as much as moose does, but yeah they're pretty nuts |
True that. Without a doubt, I double-stroke more than most people do (or should). _________________
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chaosfreak07
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 2704 Location: Wherever you aren't.
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:10 am Post subject: |
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So at some points you use the same hand for more than one note in a row?
If that's the case, exactly how can you do that? _________________
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ccmoose
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 1170 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:42 am Post subject: |
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chaosfreak07 wrote: | So at some points you use the same hand for more than one note in a row?
If that's the case, exactly how can you do that? |
I'm not sure if you are kidding or not. Either way, I recorded a quick little vid for you. (Alternate link; YouTube has given me difficulties recently.) _________________
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Toodooloo
Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 689 Location: hi!
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Sulfurus wrote: |
I don't think you have to double-stroke quite as much as moose does, but yeah they're pretty nuts |
Yeah well that's not really the problem lol, I mean, I can barely 4* the song because my arms can't keep up with the song, and my legs can't even go fast enough for the 8th bass note crap lol _________________
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Rapstah
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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I went into this thread thinking "My Sticking? What song is that and what game is it in?". _________________
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ccmoose
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 1170 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Did no one notice that I wrote Fill #8 down wrong? It cost me two FCs before I checked the chart and realized it >.< _________________
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Toodooloo
Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 689 Location: hi!
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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I think I know why no one notices, it's probably that most of us are just being destroyed by this song, and just flail the pads at those fills trying to hit as much as possible, which might sometimes result in hitting the fill.
I mean, I know for a fact that I've personally never even tried to analyse these fills just because it's kinda pointless when you can't even 5* the song lol. _________________
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chaosfreak07
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 2704 Location: Wherever you aren't.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I already commented on your vid, but thanks for the explanation. I just didn't get the "R R"s and "L L"s and such you had listed. _________________
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ccmoose
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 1170 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:56 am Post subject: |
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bump for Fills Video _________________
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WarlordTm
Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 1031 Location: Hoorn, Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: War Ensemble Fills and My Sticking |
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Now that I've been getting more consistent with the rolls in War Ensemble, I though I'd share my sticking methods as well... they might be useful for anyone who's not double-stroking like they're on crack (my sticking methods are in bold)
ccmoose wrote: |
Fill #1 - Intro A
L R R L L. R R L L. R R L R
L R L R L R L R L. R L R L
Fill #2 - Verse 1
R R L L. R R L R. L R L R
R L R L. R R L R L R L R
Fill #3 - Verse 2
R R L. R R L R L. R R L L R L
L R L R R L R L. R L R L R L (Double stroking the first two reds might be a little less awkward. This sticking method does the job for me most of the time though... god, I hate this fill )
Fill #4 - Solo 1A
Same as Fill #1
Fill #5 - Mosh Riff 1
R R L L. R L R R L R. R L R R L R. R L R R L R L R R L L R L
R L R L. R L R R L R R L R R L R R L R R. L R L R L R L R L
Fill #6 - Bridge 1
L R R L L. R R L R
L R L R L. R L R L
Fill #7 - Mosh Riff 2
Same as Fill #1
Fill #8 - Bridge 2
L R R. L L R L R R L L R R
L R L. R L R L R R L L R R
NO!!!! This is incorrect, and it cost me two FCs before I noticed. FUCK MY LIFE!
L L R R. L L R L R R L L R R
Fill #9 - Ready...
L L R R. L R L L R R L R R. L R R L R L L R L. R L R L R L R L R
R L R L R L R L. R R L R R L R R. L L R L R L R L. R L R L R L R
Old sticking. Don't use it anymore because going from a B right diddle to a G left diddle was causing too many stick collisions.
L L R R. L R L L R R L R R. L R R L R L L R R. L L R R L L R R L
Fill #10 - Solo 2B
Same as Fill #1
Fill #11 - Chorus 3
R R L L R L R. L R R L R R L R R. L L R
R L R L R L R L R R. L R R L R R L L R |
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CoalfieldRocker
Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 316 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Fill #3 - Verse 2
try this if you're having trouble
L R L R L R L L R L R
moving the double-stroke to the end instead of the beginning of the roll might make it smoother for some ppl, i know it does for me.
tried to make it line up nice and pretty but i'm not good at this =P _________________
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