3-fret chord concern

[Astat]

In general, there's a trend GH has set as far as "weird" chords go. Pretty much all the standard interval chords in a song (whether they be major, minor, or powerchords) use 2 buttons. 3-button chords are seen a lot more when you get 7th, 9th, sus2, sus4, and other weird interval chords involved (Trippin' On a Hole in a Paper Heart is a great example), or at the very end of songs (Free Bird).

The same thing kinda applied in GH1 as well with the GB and RO chords, you rarely saw them unless they were part of some kind of odd part. The double string bends in Texas Flood and the ending of Cheat on the Church where the guitar is doubled an octave higher are a couple examples I can think of.

Yes, when you play powerchords on a real guitar, you're often using your index, ring, and pinky fingers, but that still only translates to 2 frets, and any powerchord is still the same without the 3rd string, it's still a root and fifth just without the root being doubled an octave higher. There really is no need to represent powerchords in GH as 3-note chords. There's only 5 frets to work with in the first place, so why take up more of the limited fretboard space just to have more "accurate" chords? I understand that some people like the challenge, but I think it's missing the point when 3-button chords are really better left to the odd-sounding chords in the guitar parts.
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GH80s Hard FCs: 16/30

[Astat]

In general, there's a trend GH has set as far as "weird" chords go. Pretty much all the standard interval chords in a song (whether they be major, minor, or powerchords) use 2 buttons. 3-button chords are seen a lot more when you get 7th, 9th, sus2, sus4, and other weird interval chords involved (Trippin' On a Hole in a Paper Heart is a great example), or at the very end of songs (Free Bird).

The same thing kinda applied in GH1 as well with the GB and RO chords, you rarely saw them unless they were part of some kind of odd part. The double string bends in Texas Flood and the ending of Cheat on the Church where the guitar is doubled an octave higher are a couple examples I can think of.

Yes, when you play powerchords on a real guitar, you're often using your index, ring, and pinky fingers, but that still only translates to 2 frets, and any powerchord is still the same without the 3rd string, it's still a root and fifth just without the root being doubled an octave higher. There really is no need to represent powerchords in GH as 3-note chords. There's only 5 frets to work with in the first place, so why take up more of the limited fretboard space just to have more "accurate" chords? I understand that some people like the challenge, but I think it's missing the point when 3-button chords are really better left to the odd-sounding chords in the guitar parts.
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GH1 Hard FCs: 41/47
GH2 Hard FCs: 41/64
GH80s Hard FCs: 16/30

[skywilliam]

[skywilliam]

[brandyn]

Just something to think about here.

I can bet any money that if someone made a chart a while ago with a GBO chord, it would have been frowned upon by the custom song community, and would have been called a ridiculous chord, etc. But now one of them showed up in Dead! for the 360. Red Octane is always trying new weird things, and we're all gonna be amazed at what they pull out next. What happens if GH uses a four note chord in the future? Does that automatically make it okay to custom a song with one now?

I'm pretty much in the middle of the argument. I don't think there is anything wrong with three note chord heavy songs, but if they are out of place, they are out of place. Like, think of how many three note chords are in the rhythm sections of songs like Jessica and Freebird. Now what if you want to make a rhythm heavy songs, like John Butler's Ocean. Of course you're gonna stick a good number of three note chords in there.

But I think there's a big point we're missing. We're making custom songs to extend on what Red Octane, not to be Red Octane. We're putting the songs in our own hands, and making charts based around what we like to play. If someone like to play three note chords, why stop them? I mean, if we don't like someone else's mid cause it has too much of something or the wrong chord, then we can stop complaining and change it ourselves (that's not to say we shouldn't give them some constructive critism). That's what I'm doing with 99 Red Ballon and Here it Goes Again.

[brandyn]

Just something to think about here.

I can bet any money that if someone made a chart a while ago with a GBO chord, it would have been frowned upon by the custom song community, and would have been called a ridiculous chord, etc. But now one of them showed up in Dead! for the 360. Red Octane is always trying new weird things, and we're all gonna be amazed at what they pull out next. What happens if GH uses a four note chord in the future? Does that automatically make it okay to custom a song with one now?

I'm pretty much in the middle of the argument. I don't think there is anything wrong with three note chord heavy songs, but if they are out of place, they are out of place. Like, think of how many three note chords are in the rhythm sections of songs like Jessica and Freebird. Now what if you want to make a rhythm heavy songs, like John Butler's Ocean. Of course you're gonna stick a good number of three note chords in there.

But I think there's a big point we're missing. We're making custom songs to extend on what Red Octane, not to be Red Octane. We're putting the songs in our own hands, and making charts based around what we like to play. If someone like to play three note chords, why stop them? I mean, if we don't like someone else's mid cause it has too much of something or the wrong chord, then we can stop complaining and change it ourselves (that's not to say we shouldn't give them some constructive critism). That's what I'm doing with 99 Red Ballon and Here it Goes Again.

[trickster009]

Personally, what I think about 3-note chords is that the number of change-ups using them is more important than how many there are. For instance, if the real song uses a heavy chord during a breakdown and just keeps jamming on that chord, I see no reason not to use a 3-note chord in GH to represent this - it doesn't really make the song that much more difficult; and maybe this chord only changes every couple of measures. That seems fine with me. What throws me is when you have to alternate between four different 3-note chords in two beats at 200 beats per minute... at that point, it becomes seriously painful to playability, in my opinion, especially if it happens several times during the song. Just my 2 cents.

[trickster009]

Personally, what I think about 3-note chords is that the number of change-ups using them is more important than how many there are. For instance, if the real song uses a heavy chord during a breakdown and just keeps jamming on that chord, I see no reason not to use a 3-note chord in GH to represent this - it doesn't really make the song that much more difficult; and maybe this chord only changes every couple of measures. That seems fine with me. What throws me is when you have to alternate between four different 3-note chords in two beats at 200 beats per minute... at that point, it becomes seriously painful to playability, in my opinion, especially if it happens several times during the song. Just my 2 cents.

[LocalH]

I don't normally bump stuff like this but this thread highly amuses me in 2016, especially given the high-end customs scene. Shows how things can change in 9 years.
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[LocalH]

I don't normally bump stuff like this but this thread highly amuses me in 2016, especially given the high-end customs scene. Shows how things can change in 9 years.
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Alakaiser sez: POST BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, NOT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING.

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