Surrender

**fyeah** · Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 547 Location: Green Bay, WI

I don't know of any way to get it consistently... but i can get it about 1/2 the time if i strum every note. I use index and middle finger instead of middle and ring for the Y and B though... Hope that helps...
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**pryan37bb** · Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 251

If I HOPO, I can hit it pretty consistently, it's just getting used to the rhythm in which you have to hit the notes that's difficult.

**debr5836** · Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 1159 Location: Fort Collins, CO

spopt2.pl results for "Surrender" (gh2-ps2/expert) generated on 07/20/2007

lazy-whammy (311032) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (315452) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (316340) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (317488) PNG TXT
upper-bound (317512) PNG TXT

KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying

big-squeeze path details
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File: surrender.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-2-2-3
Estimated Base score 66051
Estimated 4* cutoff 132102
Estimated 5* cutoff 184942
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 256184
Estimated SP Score 60156
Estimated Total Score 316340
Activations:
#1 From meas 15.1250 (Y note) to meas 19.2500 (GY note) ( 15.1485- 19.2141) Score: 8752 (42.0+ 1.8)*200
#2 From meas 32.0000 (YB note) to meas 36.7500 (GY note) ( 32.0210- 36.7510) Score: 9504 (44.0+ 3.5)*200
#3 From meas 47.1250 (R note) to meas 54.0232 (GR sust) ( 47.1609- 54.0232) Score: 14720 (70.0+ 3.6)*200
#4 From meas 89.1250 (G note) to meas 95.6250 (YB note) ( 89.0983- 95.6260) Score: 15200 (76.0+ 0.0)*200
#5 From meas 136.0000 (RB note) to meas 142.0359 (GY sust) (136.0359-142.0359) Score: 11980 (52.0+ 7.9)*200

nearly-ideal path details
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File: surrender.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-2-2-3
Estimated Base score 66051
Estimated 4* cutoff 132102
Estimated 5* cutoff 184942
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 256184
Estimated SP Score 61304
Estimated Total Score 317488
Activations:
#1 From meas 14.2500 (Y note) to meas 18.3910 (YB sust) ( 14.2854- 18.3910) Score: 8764 (42.0+ 1.8)*200
#2 From meas 31.8750 (Y note) to meas 36.7500 (GY note) ( 31.8740- 36.7223) Score: 9704 (45.0+ 3.5)*200
#3 From meas 47.2500 (RB note) to meas 54.2500 (GY note) ( 47.2859- 54.2309) Score: 15056 (71.0+ 4.3)*200
#4 From meas 89.1250 (G note) to meas 95.8750 (YB note) ( 89.1240- 95.8506) Score: 15800 (79.0+ 0.0)*200
#5 From meas 136.0000 (RB note) to meas 142.0359 (GY sust) (136.0359-142.0359) Score: 11980 (52.0+ 7.9)*200

upper-bound path details
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File: surrender.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-2-2-3
Estimated Base score 66051
Estimated 4* cutoff 132102
Estimated 5* cutoff 184942
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 256184
Estimated SP Score 61328
Estimated Total Score 317512
Activations:
#1 From meas 14.2500 (Y note) to meas 18.4103 (YB sust) ( 14.2948- 18.4103) Score: 8780 (42.0+ 1.9)*200
#2 From meas 31.8750 (Y note) to meas 36.7500 (GY note) ( 31.8727- 36.7510) Score: 9704 (45.0+ 3.5)*200
#3 From meas 47.2500 (RB note) to meas 54.2500 (GY note) ( 47.2490- 54.2140) Score: 15056 (71.0+ 4.3)*200
#4 From meas 89.1250 (G note) to meas 95.8750 (YB note) ( 89.0994- 95.8760) Score: 15800 (79.0+ 0.0)*200
#5 From meas 136.0000 (RB note) to meas 142.0453 (GY sust) (136.0453-142.0453) Score: 11988 (52.0+ 7.9)*200

Please post any bugs/questions about these auto-generated paths HERE.

**Riemann3.14** · Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 25 Location: Hamilton Ohio

I just FC'd this last night, and I needed to replay it some 10 times to hit the guitar fills. (All were missing 1 note.) The strategy that eventually worked for me was, "Downstrum as fast as you can and hope to hit the notes."

I think I got lucky.

**Thurman91** · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject:

this song is a funny one to listen to, especially when some1 plays it at a party cuz their noob, and i get to sing along: "mommy's all right, daddy's all right, they just seem a little weird" ahh good times

as for the paths, this is one of 4 songs i dont care to find the right path: HSB, Red Lottery and Yes We Can..that is, until TODAY!!! (except for Red Lottery, its so dumb)