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**Punger** · Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Posts: 11

This is my idea that could possible or maybe not bring back guitar hero style games and/or add more awesome to it

http://i.imgur.com/KjueLwZ.jpg

That picture shows off what it could look like. Text included with the main amount of ideas that would help as well as explanations

In addition, the black/white note idea I got from how the One solo is played. In GH3, you use two hands to tap at the top of the guitar where as played on a real guitar, both hands at the bottom with one tapping the lowest part of the neck from what I've seen in videos of the solo.

i realize this really isn't enough to bring it back in to swing but any thoughts?

**inv4der** · Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9656 Location: Meridian, ID

Seems a lot like the convoluted gimmicks that made the series not get its planned reboot. (They had planned 6 strumbars or some nonsense.)

It'd literally be better to have a real guitar, rocksmith style, than add more to the existing five button formula. (Especially given that any additions to the hardware means that literally every existing GH guitar would no longer work.) Peripherals are a major reason the series died originally, having a new one that's harder to play casually wouldn't help things.
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**SDoner8790** · Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 2:01 am Post subject:

THIS IDEA FUCKING SUCKS
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**Punger** · Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Posts: 11

**PiemanLK** · Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 4711 Location: /export/home

I think it needs more buttons
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**expertwin** · Joined: 18 Mar 2010 Posts: 2244 Location: Meh.

I understand the matrix of difficulty you want could bring; but, as the Helpful Hamster already pointed out, this is far too similar to the gimmicks that the nonexistent GH7 would have implemented to be a good idea. I believe the best thing to do is to create a new game for fans of the genre with enough changes to shake up the format, but not so much it muddles the game (for example, implementing the multiple timing windows of its forefathers could create some new strategy when combined with the SP system). I just want a simple GH1 to A-esque game. I would be fine with removing drums and vocals (though, I would still keep solo bass). Heck, I'd be fine with going back to covers. Just a small game that adds a bit of strategy while still easily being able to access the game with my guitar. One that doesn't try to bring in new fans, but instead tries to appeal to existing fans.
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**xbillax** · Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 911 Location: Norway

all I could ever ask for is a new 6th fret, it would make everything totally awesome
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**Cabanon** · Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 6464 Location: Quebec, Canada

I cant do GO chords. FML !
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**Graf** · Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 8:13 pm Post subject:

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**inv4der** · Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9656 Location: Meridian, ID

Perhaps I'm a little too hostile, but it's still worth nothing the issues with new peripherals as well as the way charting was toward the end of GH as a series. (And RB as well to some extent.)

I'm making sure to emphasize the issues with the concept of a new peripheral because the amount of them produced by both series by the end of it was a problem. Complaints about having to get new ones or needing the space to store, say, on the extreme side, a RB drumkit, a GH drumkit, multiple guitar controllers, a RB3 keyboard, multiple mics and then saying "if you want to be able to play guitar in our new guitar hero you need to buy our new $50 guitar alongside the game because none of your old ones will work" is not at all appealing. No matter how awesome solos with six buttons would be or how much you want some complicated tapping mechanic that maybe 2% of everyone that would play the game would care about.

Leaving Harmonix's original five lane system is the best thing they could do to bring back previous GH players since all it would require is the standard game price investment instead of requiring that you pay extra for yet another plastic instrument.

Also worth noting is that any time the controllers changed there always seemed to be minor to major flaws initially, and the complexity of Punger's original idea feels like it would result in a lot of malfunctioning guitars. If they dropped the idea of detachable parts that could likely solve some of it, but in the end you still have more components that are capable of dying.

I get where the scorehero community gets the idea that adding an extra button or even more would improve the game, because this is the hardcore site with the people that like a challenge and don't mind relearning things. (Which would be required if any addition of these levels was made, since no one has the muscle memory to do some things these would require.) It's just not something that seems viable any more, with the decline of plastic instruments and the rise of the real instrument games.

If I had to suggest what I'd want from GH7, it'd be a return to just Guitar and Bass (and perhaps a distinct Rhythm part as well where applicable, something I never understood the removal of), and less reliance on the gimmicks of the later games. GH1/2/3 were successful with very little other than pressing buttons and I feel that a reboot should return to those roots. Things like HOPO chords and "purple note" tapping things are fine because they're just a refinement of the existing five lanes and work with the existing hardware. Just make a game about playing guitar in a band. None of this saving rock from a beast or whatever the hell was going on with WT/GH5 nonsense.

Rock Band was always more grounded and I feel that it helped their "story" modes. It was more about your band and its progression to stardom, like in HMX's own GH games. (I'd personally say that RB2's band world tour is the absolute pinnacle of a "career" mode in any RB/GH style game.)
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**LocalH** · Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 1400 Location: MiloHax

The only things I'd want to see in GH7:

1) more track adjustments (HS 6 or even 7, coupled with a neck depth setting or an automatic adjustment depending in HS)

2) "Skin" options, to change between various style of gems (I'd love to see a retro GH1/2/80s skin on a modern game, I'm actually in the middle of making a half-assed one for Phase Shift)
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