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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't enjoy rap or hip-hop but I certainly understand the appeal of it.

And without it we probably wouldn't have DJ Hero, which I love, so, yeah.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I see very little reason to like rap, even I can have some fun with the old school hip hop stuff. I mean, how can you not get a little kick out of some Beastie Boys? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ evilpacman

Just about everything you said in that rage rant was wrong in every way, shape and form. You should probably take a time-out from Scorehero for like a day.

Also, I fucking hate Kanye West, but will check out the others mentioned. And no, I don't just hate him because he's a gigantic douche. I find zero value in listening to his music. I would actually rather listen to Lil' Wayne.

"You're such a fuckin' loser. He ain't even go to class, Bueller."

Really?..... Really?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sayin':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpP-8tJ-9Js
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So you would want an entire form of expression that has done much good for blacks, trying to fully become societal equals to whites in America in the last half-century, and in general people in tough economic situations, to have never existed because you want to hear more rock music in public

Has it really done that much good for blacks, and economically unstable persons? It often times glorifies gang violence, treating women unfairly, and spending money frivolously. I'd say it has done about as much bad as good.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad was a Breakdancer in the 80's, and was really into rap and hiphop. So am I know, because of that. Give me any 80's rap song and I'll happily sing along to it. Nowadays, I like Kanye West for his musical ability. Not necessarily songwriting or anything but the beats and frankly his version of Golddigger was pure genius, in my opinion.

However, I've played guitar for 5 years too and your comments, while obviously trolling, are ridiculous. Each genre has merit as far as I'm concerned, even if I can't see it myself (I'm looking at you R'n'B and heavy screamo metal stuff).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joekickass1234 wrote:
Has it really done that much good for blacks, and economically unstable persons? It often times glorifies gang violence, treating women unfairly, and spending money frivolously. I'd say it has done about as much bad as good.


That's a heavy assertion. Do you have any evidence?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@ evilpacman

Just about everything you said in that rage rant was wrong in every way, shape and form. You should probably take a time-out from Scorehero for like a day.

Also, I fucking hate Kanye West, but will check out the others mentioned. And no, I don't just hate him because he's a gigantic douche. I find zero value in listening to his music. I would actually rather listen to Lil' Wayne.

"You're such a fuckin' loser. He ain't even go to class, Bueller."

Really?..... Really?

I'd actually say "really" to you dismissing Kanye because of a feature in a DRAKE song. Everyone sounds bad in a Drake song because Drake is horrible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kyWDhB_QeI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elVF7oG0pQs
the aforementioned Roses, link in my first post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJs-KYWHOwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ns52XQCUg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do3iJ6DWvpQ

Just some songs with great Kanye verses
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

machchunk wrote:
Enchiridion wrote:
@ evilpacman

Just about everything you said in that rage rant was wrong in every way, shape and form. You should probably take a time-out from Scorehero for like a day.

Also, I fucking hate Kanye West, but will check out the others mentioned. And no, I don't just hate him because he's a gigantic douche. I find zero value in listening to his music. I would actually rather listen to Lil' Wayne.

"You're such a fuckin' loser. He ain't even go to class, Bueller."

Really?..... Really?

I'd actually say "really" to you dismissing Kanye because of a feature in a DRAKE song. Everyone sounds bad in a Drake song because Drake is horrible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kyWDhB_QeI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elVF7oG0pQs
the aforementioned Roses, link in my first post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJs-KYWHOwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ns52XQCUg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do3iJ6DWvpQ

Just some songs with great Kanye verses


Drake didn't write his part. -_-
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course he didn't, but that's not why Drake made it suck
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rap sucks.


Except the Beastie Boys. \m/
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well now I can't stop listening to Busdriver, thanks thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I like Metal/Rock more than Rap/Hip-Hop, I like Atmosphere Just as much as other Metal bands I like. Some of you guys should take a listen. Although he can't really compare to Biggie or 2Pac, he's defintely in a group of his own.
Dreamer
Trying To Find A Balance
National Disgrace
Always Coming Back Home To You
Fuck You lucy
Wow I linked a lot of songs. And I love how this turned from someone (most likely) trolling, to a discussion about Rap haha.
EDIT: Yeah I remember Busdriver from Tony Hawk's Underground soundtrack. That guy is awesome.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find your lack of Dr. Dre and N.W.A. disturbing.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kinda like rap. It's a different kind of music experience if you compare it to say metal, but both are enjoyable in different moods/moments.

Rap is pretty much perfect for ending the day,before going to bed of while under the effects of alcohol and such. The "flow" or a rapper is such an incredible musical... 'thing'.

The Flow, imo, is like the headbang factor of metal. If I don't feel like headbanging or running into walls screaming, it's not a good metal song. The flow is harder to describe, but you get my pooint.


Also, so fucking what if somethings doesn't take talent or effort? Some lucky dude could find the most epic metal riff by pure luck. Going to your fridge using your feets is so much easier than using your arms to walk, so what? Am I going to skip the easier path because it's so effortless?
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