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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:28 am    Post subject: GHM - FC Breakdown Project - Thread 8 *COMPLETE* Reply with quote

For anyone wondering whether this is considered a "poll thread" and thus against the rules: The mods have discussed it and ruled that as long as there is discussion of why a song is chosen as harder/easier, then there is no problem. I would ask all of you to try to add some reasoning to all of your votes going forward if possible.

Phase 1- Ordering small lists *DONE*
Phase 2- Specific Questions within each list *DONE*
Phase 3- Building the Final List

This is a project that will ultimately create a complete Expert Guitar Master FC Breakdown for every game in the Hero series combined. This is well over 1000 songs and making a single huge list from scratch that anyone can agree on would simply be impossible. This way it is broken down into smaller sections and can be the most "accurate" possible. It's completely based on the opinion of participants of this thread. I did not make any of the rankings based on personal opinion.



FINAL LIST
01) Nothing Else Matters
02) Turn The Page - Live
03) Mother Of Mercy
04) For Whom The Bell Tolls
05) The Unforgiven
06) No Excuses
07) Stacked Actors
08) The Memory Remains
09) King Nothing
10) The Boys Are Back In Town
11) Toxicity
12) Demon Cleaner
13) No Leaf Clover
14) Enter Sandman
15) Stone Cold Crazy
16) Tuesday's Gone
17) Fuel
18) Albatross
19) Mommy's Little Monster - Live 
20) Blood And Thunder
21) Hell Bent For Leather
22) Sad But True
23) Frantic
24) The Thing That Should Not Be
25) Armed And Ready
26) Orion
27) Beautiful Mourning
28) Fade To Black
29) The Black River
30) Ace Of Spades
31) War Inside My Head
32) Wherever I May Roam
33) Am I Evil?
34) The Shortest Straw 
35) Creeping Death 
36) Seek & Destroy
37) Battery 
38) Mercyful Fate
39) Welcome Home (Sanitarium) 
40) Master Of Puppets
41) Hit The Lights
42) Evil
43) Whiplash
44) Fight Fire With Fire
45) All Nightmare Long
46) Disposable Heroes 
47) War Ensemble
48) Dyer's Eve 
49) One
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: GHM - FC Breakdown Project - Thread 8 Phase 1 Reply with quote

First!

This is my first draft of it, so if something seems off, point it out to me and I'll take another look at it.

Group A
Demon Cleaner
Blood And Thunder
Albatross
Ace Of Spades
Am I Evil?
Armed And Ready
Beautiful Mourning
Creeping Death
Battery
All Nightmare Long

Group B
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Enter Sandman
Hell Bent For Leather
Fade To Black
Fuel
Frantic
Evil
Disposable Heroes
Fight Fire With Fire
Dyer's Eve

Group C
Nothing Else Matters
No Excuses
Mother Of Mercy
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
No Leaf Clover
King Nothing
Hit The Lights
Master Of Puppets
Mercyful Fate
One

Group D
Stacked Actors
The Memory Remains
The Boys Are Back In Town
Sad But True
Stone Cold Crazy
The Black River
The Thing That Should Not Be
Orion
Seek & Destroy
The Shortest Straw

Group E
The Unforgiven
Turn The Page - Live
Tuesday's Gone
Toxicity
War Inside My Head
Wherever I May Roam
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Whiplash
War Ensemble

A couple of those I'm not sure about, but I think it's a good starting point for me.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: GHM - FC Breakdown Project - Thread 8 Phase 1 Reply with quote

Group A
Albatross
Ace Of Spades
Demon Cleaner
Blood And Thunder
Am I Evil?
Armed And Ready

Beautiful Mourning
Creeping Death
Battery
All Nightmare Long

Group B
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Frantic
Fuel
Hell Bent For Leather
Enter Sandman
Fade To Black
Evil
Fight Fire With Fire

Dyer's Eve
Disposable Heroes


Group C
Nothing Else Matters
Mother Of Mercy
No Excuses
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
No Leaf Clover
King Nothing
Hit The Lights
Mercyful Fate
Master Of Puppets

One

Group D
Stacked Actors
Stone Cold Crazy
The Memory Remains
The Boys Are Back In Town
The Thing That Should Not Be
Sad But True
Orion
The Black River
The Shortest Straw
Seek & Destroy


Group E
The Unforgiven
Turn The Page - Live
Tuesday's Gone
Toxicity
War Inside My Head
War Ensemble
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Wherever I May Roam
Whiplash


I'm kinda bad at ranking these songs, tbh.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group A
Demon Cleaner
Albatross
Armed And Ready
Beautiful Mourning
Blood And Thunder
Ace Of Spades
Am I Evil?
Creeping Death
Battery
All Nightmare Long

Group B
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Enter Sandman
Frantic
Fuel
Hell Bent For Leather
Fade To Black
Evil
Fight Fire With Fire
Dyer's Eve
Disposable Heroes

Group C
Mother Of Mercy
No Excuses
Nothing Else Matters
No Leaf Clover
King Nothing
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
Mercyful Fate
Hit The Lights
Master Of Puppets
One

Group D
The Memory Remains
Stacked Actors
The Boys Are Back In Town
Stone Cold Crazy
The Thing That Should Not Be
Sad But True
The Black River
Orion
The Shortest Straw
Seek & Destroy

Group E
Turn The Page - Live
Toxicity
The Unforgiven
Tuesday's Gone
War Inside My Head
Whiplash
Wherever I May Roam
War Ensemble
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)

@ the two above me: How the FUCK is The Unforgiven easier than Turn the Page? TTP is one riff for the entirety of the song.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of those positions and chord changes can be awkward for some. Go to the "least enjoyable charts in the GH series" thread and you'll see people complaining. There's nothing hard about Unforgiven.

@voided: what's the red for? Also, why is War Ensemble ranked as that easy? I think I'll FC WIMR before I even get the verses to War Ensemble.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red is emulating Spoon's way of showing what sounds should be specificially voted on.

And I'm really not sure about those four songs. Granted, WE and Whiplash should be together, yes, but since I felt they all were seemingly worth being voted individually, I just kinda left it as is.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

War Ensemble isn't even close to the difficulty of Whiplash or Welcome Home, and is a few leagues above Wherever I May Roam... I really don't understand people's trouble with that song. Anyway I'll make my own list soon enough, but I need to clarify some of the easier songs. But yeah, WE is by far the hardest in that group.

Also, it should be FFWF<DH<DE, for sure. I honestly don't see how it could be any other way :p
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group A
Albatross
Demon Cleaner
Armed And Ready
Blood And Thunder
Beautiful Mourning
Ace Of Spades
Am I Evil?
Creeping Death
Battery
All Nightmare Long

Group B
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Enter Sandman
Fuel
Hell Bent For Leather
Frantic
Fade To Black
Evil
Fight Fire With Fire
Disposable Heroes
Dyer's Eve


Group C
Mother Of Mercy
No Excuses
Nothing Else Matters
King Nothing
No Leaf Clover
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
Hit The Lights
Mercyful Fate
Master Of Puppets

One

Group D
Stacked Actors
The Boys Are Back In Town
The Memory Remains
Stone Cold Crazy
The Thing That Should Not Be
Orion
The Black River
Sad But True
Seek & Destroy
The Shortest Straw

Group E
Turn The Page - Live
The Unforgiven
Tuesday's Gone
Toxicity
War Inside My Head
Wherever I May Roam
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
War Ensemble
Whiplash

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay this is my favorite breakdown thread yet! Just because it's a good game and I remember most of the charts

Group A
Demon Cleaner
Albatross
Blood And Thunder
Beautiful Mourning
Armed And Ready
Am I Evil?
Ace Of Spades
Creeping Death
Battery
All Nightmare Long

Group B
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Enter Sandman
Fuel
Hell Bent For Leather
Frantic
Fade To Black
Fight Fire With Fire
Evil
Disposable Heroes
Dyer's Eve

And serious with this.. FFWF is WAY easier than Evil/DH/DE.. In fact, I got it before Fade to Black

Group C
Nothing Else Matters
Mother Of Mercy
No Leaf Clover
King Nothing
No Excuses
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
Mercyful Fate
Master Of Puppets
Hit The Lights
One

Mercyful Fate and MoP are just about grinding.. there's nothing TOO hard in them and that's why they're easier than HtL

Group D
Stacked Actors
The Boys Are Back In Town
Sad But True
The Memory Remains
Stone Cold Crazy
The Thing That Should Not Be
Orion
The Black River
The Shortest Straw
Seek & Destroy

Hmm... Interesting group. It doesn't have any of the hardest songs and easiest are very close to each other

Group E
Turn The Page - Live
The Unforgiven
Toxicity
Tuesday's Gone
War Inside My Head
Wherever I May Roam
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Whiplash
War Ensemble

Lots of hard songs. I think WIMR was my #40 and it was still very hard for me.. but I got Sanitarium even later and solo 3a is very hard (+ very nice outro choke xD) and Whiplash was my #46.. And I don't have WE so this list is pretty clear
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group A
Demon Cleaner
Albatross
Armed And Ready
Beautiful Mourning
Blood And Thunder
Am I Evil?
Ace Of Spades
Creeping Death
Battery
All Nightmare Long

Group B
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Enter Sandman
Frantic
Fuel
Hell Bent For Leather
Fade To Black
Evil
Fight Fire With Fire
Dyer's Eve
Disposable Heroes

Group C
Mother Of Mercy
No Excuses
Nothing Else Matters
No Leaf Clover
King Nothing
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
Mercyful Fate
Hit The Lights
Master Of Puppets
One

Group D
The Memory Remains
Stacked Actors
Stone Cold Crazy
The Boys Are Back In Town
The Thing That Should Not Be
Sad But True
Orion
The Black River
Seek & Destroy
The Shortest Straw


Group E
The Unforgiven
Turn The Page - Live
Toxicity
Tuesday's Gone
War Inside My Head
Wherever I May Roam
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Whiplash
War Ensemble
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything from about halfway down any group can be taken with a pinch of salt cos I'm so far off getting any of them. If I've put anything contentious re the hard songs, apologies.

Group A
Albatross
Ace Of Spades
Demon Cleaner
Armed And Ready
Beautiful Mourning
Blood And Thunder
Am I Evil?
Creeping Death
All Nightmare Long
Battery

Group B
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Fuel
Frantic
Enter Sandman
Hell Bent For Leather
Fade To Black
Evil
Disposable Heroes
Fight Fire With Fire
Dyer's Eve

Group C
Nothing Else Matters
Mother Of Mercy
No Leaf Clover
King Nothing
No Excuses
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
Hit The Lights
Master Of Puppets
Mercyful Fate
One

Group D
The Boys Are Back In Town
The Memory Remains
Stacked Actors
The Thing That Should Not Be
The Black River
Sad But True
Stone Cold Crazy
Orion
Seek & Destroy
The Shortest Straw

Group E
Turn The Page - Live
The Unforgiven
Tuesday's Gone
War Inside My Head
Toxicity
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Wherever I May Roam
Whiplash
War Ensemble
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: GHM - FC Breakdown Project - Thread 8 Phase 1 Reply with quote

Group A
Demon Cleaner
Albatross
Ace Of Spades
Armed And Ready
Blood And Thunder
Beautiful Mourning
Am I Evil?
Creeping Death
Battery
All Nightmare Long

Group B
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Enter Sandman
Fuel
Hell Bent For Leather
Frantic
Fade To Black
Fight Fire With Fire
Disposable Heroes
Dyer's Eve
Evil (LOL)

Group C
Mother Of Mercy
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
Nothing Else Matters
No Excuses
No Leaf Clover
King Nothing
Master Of Puppets
Mercyful Fate
Hit The Lights
One

Group D
The Boys Are Back In Town
Stacked Actors
Stone Cold Crazy
The Memory Remains
The Thing That Should Not Be
Sad But True
Orion
The Black River
Seek & Destroy
The Shortest Straw

Group E
The Unforgiven
Turn The Page - Live
Toxicity
Tuesday's Gone
Wherever I May Roam
War Inside My Head
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Whiplash
War Ensemble

Hopefully I haven't made any stupid mistakes, I did this pretty quick (Evil being harder than DE isn't a mistake )
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group A
Demon Cleaner
Albatross
Ace of Spades
Armed And Ready
Blood and Thunder
Beautiful Mourning
Creeping Death
Am I Evil?
Battery
All Nightmare Long

Group B
For Who the Bell Tolls
Enter Sandman
Fuel
Hell Bent for Leather
Frantic
Fade to Black
Evil
Fight Fire with Fire
Disposable Heroes
Dyer's Eve

Group C
Mother of Mercy
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
Nothing Else Matters
No Excuses
King Nothing
No Leaf Clover
Mercyful Fate
Master of Puppets
Hit the Lights
One

Group D
Stone Cold Crazy
The Boys are Back in Town
Stacked Actors
The Memory Remains
Sad But True
The Thing that Should Not Be
The Black River
Orion
Seek & Destroy
The Shortest Straw

Group E
The Unforgiven
Toxicity
Turn the Page - Live
Tuesday's Gone
War Inside My Head
Wherever I May Roam
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Whiplash
War Ensemble
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Group A
Demon Cleaner
Albatross
Blood and Thunder
Armed And Ready
Beautiful Mourning
Ace of Spades
Creeping Death
Battery
Am I Evil?
All Nightmare Long

Group B
For Who the Bell Tolls
Enter Sandman
Fuel
Hell Bent for Leather
Frantic
Fade to Black
Evil
Disposable Heroes
Dyer's Eve
Fight Fire with Fire


Group C
Mother of Mercy
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
Nothing Else Matters
No Excuses
King Nothing
No Leaf Clover
Master of Puppets
Mercyful Fate
Hit the Lights
One

Group D
The Boys are Back in Town
Stone Cold Crazy
Stacked Actors
The Memory Remains
Sad But True
The Thing that Should Not Be
The Black River
Orion
The Shortest Straw
Seek & Destroy

Group E
Turn the Page - Live
Toxicity
The Unforgiven
Tuesday's Gone
Wherever I May Roam
War Inside My Head
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Whiplash
War Ensemble


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Group A
Albatross
Demon Cleaner
Blood And Thunder
Beautiful Mourning
Am I Evil?
Creeping Death
Armed And Ready (yeah fuck this song it's a hard fc)
Ace Of Spades
Battery
All Nightmare Long

Group B
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Fuel
Hell Bent For Leather
Enter Sandman
Frantic
Fade To Black
Fight Fire With Fire
Evil
Disposable Heroes
Dyer's Eve

Group C gah why are all the easy songs in this one
Nothing Else Matters
Mother Of Mercy
No Excuses
King Nothing
No Leaf Clover
Mommy's Little Monster - Live
Mercyful Fate
Hit The Lights
Master Of Puppets
One

Group D
Stacked Actors
The Memory Remains
The Boys Are Back In Town
Stone Cold Crazy
Sad But True
Orion
The Black River
The Thing That Should Not Be
The Shortest Straw
Seek & Destroy

Group E
Turn The Page - Live
The Unforgiven
Toxicity
Tuesday's Gone
Wherever I May Roam
War Inside My Head - the strummy bit in this song is almost as bad as WH(S) imo, i just can never hit it
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Whiplash
War Ensemble

also

War Ensemble isn't even close to the difficulty of Whiplash or Welcome Home, and is a few leagues above Wherever I May Roam... I really don't understand people's trouble with that song.

But yeah, WE is by far the hardest in that group.

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