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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:32 am    Post subject: GHVH - FC Breakdown Project - Thread 12 *COMPLETE* Reply with quote

For anyone wondering whether this is considered a "poll thread" and thus against the rules: The mods have discussed it and ruled that as long as there is discussion of why a song is chosen as harder/easier, then there is no problem. I would ask all of you to try to add some reasoning to all of your votes going forward if possible.

This is a project that will ultimately create a complete Expert Guitar Master FC Breakdown for every game in the Hero series combined. This is well over 1000 songs and making a single huge list from scratch that anyone can agree on would simply be impossible. This way it is broken down into smaller sections and can be the most "accurate" possible. It's completely based on the opinion of participants of this thread. I did not make any of the rankings based on personal opinion.




FINAL LIST
01) Stacy's Mom
02) Jamie's Cryin'
03) Safe European Home
04) Double Vision
05) White Wedding (Part 1)
06) First Date
07) Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)
08) Dance The Night Away 
09) Runnin' With The Devil 
10) Dope Nose 
11) Semi-Charmed Life 
12) Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love 
13) Intruder / (Oh) Pretty Woman 
14) Cathedral
15) Sick, Sick, Sick 
16) Pain
17) Atomic Punk
18) Space Truckin'
19) The End Of Heartache
20) Unchained 
21) Rock And Roll Is Dead 
22) I Want It All
23) Best Of You
24) So This Is Love?
25) The Takedown
26) Master Exploder
27) Beautiful Girls
28) Come To Life 
29) Loss Of Control
30) Everybody Wants Some!
31) Mean Street
32) Feel Your Love Tonight
33) Jump
34) Panama
35) Hang 'Em High
36) Painkiller
37) Somebody Get Me A Doctor 
38) Ice Cream Man
39) And The Cradle Will Rock...
40) Hear About It Later
41) Little Guitars
42) Romeo Delight 
43) You Really Got Me 
44) Hot For Teacher 
45) Spanish Fly 
46) Eruption 
47) I'm The One
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group A
Double Vision (extended sustains.)
Dance The Night Away (whole song is just fundamentals)
Dope Nose (Just slightly harder)
Cathedral (nothing but hopos)
Atomic Punk (triplet strumming in solo, high BPM to miss in places)
Best Of You (8 measures of 13.x nps strumming. Plus outro is easy to miscount)
Beautiful Girls (tons of little stuff to miss)
Come To Life (few solos, outro strumming)
Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love (couple purple sections)
And The Cradle Will Rock... (trips, strumming)

Group B
First Date (concentrate on purely FCing it, and it's a cinch)
I Want It All (quads)
Everybody Wants Some! (Annoying trills, 14.8 nps strumming)
Hang 'Em High ( I got this luckily in a few tries I think. I just remember it being all around an ass.)
Feel Your Love Tonight (18.1 NPS strumming)
Hear About It Later (2x 16.4 NPS strumming, and the solo which imo is harder to hit. Random strums, switches between purple/reg. And all the extended sustain shit is murder on my 3-finger playing)
Ice Cream Man (trips that are odd as fuck and fun tappy solo)
Hot For Teacher
Eruption
I'm The One (although personally I can see myself getting this before even touching eruption)

Group C
Jamie's Cryin'
Pain
Intruder / (Oh) Pretty Woman (more annoying to play and miss in)
Loss Of Control (another straight fundamental song. only at 300 BPM)
Master Exploder (I would rank this lower than LoC, but I think there's more variety in it meaning harder FC to most)
Mean Street (fun tapping at beginning. rest of the song is rather easy)
Jump (bullshit scales in slider form)
Painkiller (Big middle finger to the first slider trill and last slider section in the song. Two doublet strumming sections, whole solo, ect.)
Little Guitars (I know the strumming's at the beginning, but it's a lot harder imo than painkiller)

Group D
Runnin' With The Devil (snooze fest, nothing hard)
Pretty Fly (For A White Guy) [chords are harder to miss than Rw/tD]
Safe European Home (slightly harder, worse to play and hear)
Semi-Charmed Life (again, slightly harder. more alt strumming, ext sustains)
Sick, Sick, Sick
Rock And Roll Is Dead (12 nps scales, constant mini soloing)
So This Is Love? (tricky stuff for FC breakers)
Panama (tricky purple solos, faster than R&RID but much shorter. IMO harder to get than the previous)
Romeo Delight (Hard to find a consisted method for its solo, but it's still undeniably the hardest here)

Group E
Stacy's Mom
Space Truckin'
White Wedding (Part 1) (Lol I probably missed more times in this song than any other FC I've gotten. and I got 41ish)
The End Of Heartache
The Takedown (worst song ever in GH)
Somebody Get Me A Doctor (17.6 to 13 NPS strumming, solo)
Unchained (i tapped the trips, and theres solo at end. IMO SGMAD's strumming and solo was easier than getting Unchained's solos)
You Really Got Me
Spanish Fly


Lol group B is all hard songs, group D is all easy songs.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: GHVH - FC Breakdown Project - Thread 12 Phase 1 Reply with quote

Group A
Double Vision
Dance The Night Away
Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
Dope Nose
Cathedral - really not that hard
Atomic Punk - kinda a clusterfuck of a chart but this game does have a lot of those
Come To Life - ending is chokable as hell
Beautiful Girls - another really clusterfucky chokable chart
Best Of You - TTB-lite, a lot harder than it looks
And The Cradle Will Rock... - easily the hardest

Group B

First Date
I Want It All - actual fun solos? oh right cause its not a van halen song
Everybody Wants Some! - this song is literally the same as Aint Talkin Bout Love
Feel Your Love Tonight - another song with a completely random strumming bit in the middle, go figure
Ice Cream Man
Hang 'Em High
Hot For Teacher
Hear About It Later
Eruption
I'm The One

Group C
Jamie's Cryin'
Intruder / (Oh) Pretty Woman - most boring intro ever
Pain
Loss Of Control - not really hard just a matter of not missing
Master Exploder - i dont think they couldve charted that chord change to be more awkward
Jump
Painkiller
Mean Street
Little Guitars

Group D
Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)
Safe European Home
Semi-Charmed Life
Runnin' With The Devil
Sick, Sick, Sick - might be the worst song in any gh game
So This Is Love? - might be the most forgettable song in any gh game
Rock And Roll Is Dead
Panama
Romeo Delight

Group E
Stacy's Mom
White Wedding (Part 1)
Space Truckin'
The End Of Heartache
Unchained
The Takedown
Somebody Get Me A Doctor
You Really Got Me
Spanish Fly

i forgot how many awful charts/songs there are in this game

also elementzero you might wanna look at unchained and aint talkin bout love again
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aint Talking About Love is easy, i give you that, but I found the others easier. Those (2?) purple parts are/were more trouble makers than BoY's strumming/Come To Life's solo. this one I can see being moving between Beautiful girls and Come To Life on my list. This song is more of we can do that pattern without missing nowadays, but those types of patterns we trouble makers back when.

Unchained's solos are harder than SGMaD. The latter's strumming wasn't a problem at all as is most strumming in this game. They all fall on beat/even numbers. But, it's certainly harder than The End of Heartache. And for The Takedown , Unchained wins here with me as well. Solos are harder then the ho/pos in The Takedown. The Takedown probably wins hardest outta the high BPM songs, but I still see Unchained as harder.

You might need to play Mean Street again
also, HfT easier than Hear About It Later? Harder solo, harder strumming, harder verses, plus intro = easier? :/
I've gotten a lot of -1's on it, and probably will be my next FC and Hear About It Later was my last FC, but I don't know it I'd call them that close, necessarily.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group A
Double Vision
Dance The Night Away
Dope Nose
Cathedral
Atomic Punk
Best Of You
Beautiful Girls
Come To Life
Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
And The Cradle Will Rock...

Group B
First Date
I Want It All
Everybody Wants Some!
Hang 'Em High
Feel Your Love Tonight
Hear About It Later
Ice Cream Man
Hot For Teacher
Eruption
I'm The One

Group C
Jamie's Cryin'
Pain
Intruder / (Oh) Pretty Woman
Loss Of Control
Master Exploder
Mean Street
Jump
Little Guitars
Painkiller

Group D
Runnin' With The Devil
Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)
Safe European Home
Semi-Charmed Life
Sick, Sick, Sick
Rock And Roll Is Dead
Panama
So This Is Love?
Romeo Delight

Group E
Stacy's Mom
White Wedding
Space Truckin'
The Takedown
The End of Heartache
Unchained
Somebondy Get Me A Doctor
You Really Got Me
Spanish Fly
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naruto42 wrote:
ElementZero's list pretty much.
Just swap : Little Guitars and Painkiller (group B)
So This is Love? and Panama (group D)
Ans group E :
SM
WW
ST
The Takedown
TEoH
Unchained
SGMAD
YRGM
SF

please go back and edit this. using this post is going to be a pain in the ass. i just copy and paste all the lists into excel and compare them using that once i have them all. if you want to use someone else's lists but then make changes.... just post your lists.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: GHVH - FC Breakdown Project - Thread 12 Phase 1 Reply with quote

unneccessary double post lolll
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: GHVH - FC Breakdown Project - Thread 12 Phase 1 Reply with quote

Group A
Dance The Night Away
Double Vision
Dope Nose
Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
Cathedral
Atomic Punk
Best Of You
Beautiful Girls
Come To Life
And The Cradle Will Rock...

Group B
First Date
I Want It All
Feel Your Love Tonight
Everybody Wants Some!
Ice Cream Man
Hang 'Em High
Hear About It Later
Hot For Teacher
I'm The One
Eruption

Group C
Jamie's Cryin'
Intruder / (Oh) Pretty Woman
Pain
Loss Of Control
Master Exploder
Jump
Mean Street
Little Guitars
Painkiller

Group D
Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)
Runnin' With The Devil
Semi-Charmed Life
Safe European Home
Sick, Sick, Sick
So This Is Love?
Rock And Roll Is Dead
Panama
Romeo Delight

Group E
Stacy's Mom
White Wedding (Part 1)
Unchained
Space Truckin'
The End Of Heartache
The Takedown
Somebody Get Me A Doctor
You Really Got Me
Spanish Fly
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Group A
Dance The Night Away
Double Vision
Dope Nose
Cathedral
Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
Atomic Punk
Best Of You
Come To Life
Beautiful Girls
And The Cradle Will Rock...

Group B
First Date
I Want It All
Everybody Wants Some!
Feel Your Love Tonight
Ice Cream Man
Hang 'Em High
Hear About It Later
Hot For Teacher
Eruption
I'm The One

Group C
Jamie's Cryin'
Intruder / (Oh) Pretty Woman
Master Exploder
Pain
Loss Of Control
Jump
Painkiller
Mean Street
Little Guitars

Group D
Safe European Home
Semi-Charmed Life
Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)
Runnin' With The Devil
Sick, Sick, Sick
Rock And Roll Is Dead
Panama
So This Is Love?
Romeo Delight

Group E
Stacy's Mom
White Wedding (Part 1)
The End Of Heartache
Space Truckin'
Unchained
The Takedown
Somebody Get Me A Doctor
You Really Got Me
Spanish Fly
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill give you unchained (although i still think doctor is alot harder), but ATBL i think was a sr fc and despite me believing im better at strumming songs along with vh having a pretty easy timing window, i still cant fc best of you and i choked on come to life a lot.

Mean st intro is annoying and i think ive hit it once ever. Painkiller is nerfed a lot from rb2. HFT and HaiL are close
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: GHVH - FC Breakdown Project - Thread 12 Phase 1 Reply with quote

Hak's list is very close to mine. Only edited few parts

Group A
Dance The Night Away
Double Vision
Dope Nose
Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
Cathedral
Atomic Punk
Best Of You
Come To Life
Beautiful Girls
And The Cradle Will Rock...

Group B
First Date
I Want It All
Everybody Wants Some!
Hang 'Em High
Feel Your Love Tonight
Hear About It Later
Ice Cream Man
Hot For Teacher
I'm The One
Eruption

Group C
Jamie's Cryin'
Intruder / (Oh) Pretty Woman
Pain
Loss Of Control
Master Exploder
Jump
Mean Street
Painkiller
Little Guitars

Group D
Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)
Runnin' With The Devil
Safe European Home
Semi-Charmed Life
Sick, Sick, Sick
So This Is Love?
Rock And Roll Is Dead
Panama
Romeo Delight

Group E
Stacy's Mom
White Wedding (Part 1)
Unchained
Space Truckin'
The End Of Heartache
The Takedown
Somebody Get Me A Doctor
You Really Got Me
Spanish Fly
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My connection got a lightning of awesomeness and I could haz some editing, hope it's better now. Also, if underlining/not underlining, write "group x" or not or anything can help, please let me know. In fact it would be cool if you waste less time Spoonman because that big breakdown must be a pain to run properly.
(Maybe if we all can do something to help you save time, you'll have enough time to run another game at the same time ? THAT would really help the final breakdown to be done faster, way more quickly than to voting way IMO
Lol kidding, dont worry )
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nah underlines dont matter. looks fine now thank you. the only thing that can really help speed things along is if more people would participate in the slower threads. i'd be pleasantly surprised if the WTDLC thread is finished before xmas 2012.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Spoon I just had a crazy idea... What if, to speed up things, I ran myself GH5 breakdown thread ? Do you think it would be possible or do you think you will have to check the thread very often to be sure I run it properly ?
Personnally I'd like to give it a shot...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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