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Naruto42  





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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:54 pm    Post subject: GH3PC with script not legit for squeeze Reply with quote

Yeah basically GH3PC with GHTCP, GlovePie and stuff, you can get some scripts to get your guitar working on the PC. Are the scores still legit ?

Another thing, Getting full whammy is impossible on GH3PC because I never saw people saying it was possible and I don't know how it could.
The only way remaining is to set the whammy to a letter of the keyboard, and do a script which would press it repeatedly. Then, again, is this legit ?

I haz a video of me playing Slow Ride with my script, I don't get extra whammy but I can get full whammy with it. If you'd like me to upload it and to speak about it, I can too.


I need help as well because I remember someone saying he didn't feel he was getting full whammy on GH3 and he wanted tips. If he has GH3PC, I can give him my script, even though it is not like if God or the game itself was whammying, I still think my script is pretty accurate and so it can help him to know where he misses whammy. I think it was jdamilio but I'm not sure at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's not legit, because with this script you can easily get full whammy on some fast-paced songs like Nothing for Me Here, In the Belly of a Shark or Story of My Life, whereas it is hard to get full whammy there manually on console.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah it wont be legit to enter scores but thats a pretty good idea to use to see what squeezes are possible (assuming the script gets 100% available whammy)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

newuser1234 wrote:
yeah it wont be legit to enter scores but thats a pretty good idea to use to see what squeezes are possible (assuming the script gets 100% available whammy)


yeah. revolutionary, really. there are a bunch of whammy activations i'm still not confident aren't possible. overkill comes to mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, at least it's clear now. No scores inputted from GH3PC.

If anyone has GH on PC I can give the script, just ask.

I can also try to download overkill for GH3PC and try this Week-end. Which activation, elScareCrow ?
I will do In the Belly of a Shark's solo activation, Same Old Song and Dance 1st activation, Story of my Life if I can remember the path, and that Cliffs of Dover phrase which doesn't give enough whammy as well.

I AM TAKING REQUESTS BTW, ask a song (and an activation).
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Naruto42"]
overkill would need to be GHWT PC. and the 10th SP phrase.
also make sure to not drop any of the sustains - this is WT, not 3

re education through labor, 3rd phrase.
not dropping ticks will be a bitch for this one.

what i've done, 4th phrase

also if you could do a video of the 2nd activation of dammit with full ticks, in decent/good resolution, that would be awesome.

i'll post more as i think of them
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I downloaded GHWT setlist on GH3, I hope it doesn't matters.
And yeah, I probably could get full whammy, given I can FC the phrases and not drop ticks. Then, for non-GH3 song, it will be GH3 engine as well.
Also I just noticed, but on GH:WT for the activations, I'd need the path you use because there are 2-3 paths sometimes (not even speaking about rd)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People don't get full whammy on PC because they play at 1000 frames per second and use Xplorers.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play on wii wt guitar at 60fps and I have to squeeze the 1st act of no path squeeze of slow ride.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Altruit wrote:
People don't get full whammy on PC because they play at 1000 frames per second and use Xplorers.
Yep, I can get full whammy on my computer. Maybe not with my new graphics card, but could before. The screen had some lag that I couldn't get used to, but otherwise I might have given GH3PC squeezing a shot.

But really, the best way to figure out what squeezes are possible is to figure out exactly how the ending works, which can be done with customs. It would be awesome if someone made a bunch of charts with just one SP sustain in order to show exactly what the whammy rate is. When the shortest possible SP sustain is found that gives you half a bar of SP, it would also be able to show what effects early and late whammying actually have.

But GHTCP is kinda stupid and extends sustains a bit so using that wouldn't be worth a lot. If anyone knows a (relatively simple) way to get around that, like adding customs with another tool, I can give it a try.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naruto42 wrote:
I downloaded GHWT setlist on GH3, I hope it doesn't matters.
And yeah, I probably could get full whammy, given I can FC the phrases and not drop ticks. Then, for non-GH3 song, it will be GH3 engine as well.
Also I just noticed, but on GH:WT for the activations, I'd need the path you use because there are 2-3 paths sometimes (not even speaking about rd)


It completely matters.

It would be like if you tried to FC TTFAF on GH1 to see if you could on GH3.

Read: it's impossible due to the engines being different and a waste of time.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smokyprogg wrote:
It would be like if you tried to FC TTFAF on GH1 to see if you could on GH3.

Read: it's impossible due to the engines being different and a waste of time.


I believe our good friend ace5993 can give evidence on this.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not speaking of FCing songs, but getting full whammy on them. The matter is that a beat of sustain in gHWT may not give the same amount of SP than in GH3.
BTW, I already did 1st activation of SoSaD : I got full whammy without playing sustaine late, really.
CoD's phrases (where you activate on solo D) are right, I got the same amount of SP than on slowhero
I got full whammy as shown on slowhero on In the Belly of a Shark as well
And I did not get an activation from the last phrase of Story of my Life, lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PBFO last activation. I wanna see it happen even if it's in GH3.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naruto42 wrote:
The matter is that a beat of sustain in gHWT may not give the same amount of SP than in GH3.


They both require 8 beats, but you get a tiny bit off each seperate hold you whammy in GH3. So things like the R-ETL and Overkill activations go from questionable on World Tour to literally impossible on GH3.
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