Possible Rule Formats

**Sephi** · Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 454 Location: Albuquerque, NM

It has been very apparent that a lot of people here are unsure of rule formats that they should use for tournaments. This thread is for people to post possible rule formats and have them be critiqued or used by others. This should make it easier to run tournaments around the nation.

**popemobile** · Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Posts: 3879

Rules:

Pick 3 songs, highest combined total for 3 songs wins

and its the same 3 songs for each person

**Sephi** · Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 454 Location: Albuquerque, NM

Best Two-out-of-Three
Two separate T.V.'s
Player One picks the first song that both players play on the same difficulty. Whoever gets the highest SCORE wins a point for that song.
Player Two picks the second song that both players play on the same difficulty. Whoever gets the highest SCORE wins a point for that song.
If at this point, the score is 1-1. Then the last song is RANDOMLY picked somehow. Whoever gets the highest score wins the match.

Pros:
THE best comparison of score and ability
Fairness to both competitors
Randomness reduces the chance of either player playing "their" song.

Cons:
Time (Each match may last up to 15 minutes or more!)

**Sephi** · Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 454 Location: Albuquerque, NM

**popemobile** · Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Posts: 3879

then dont use Unsung

**Sephi** · Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 454 Location: Albuquerque, NM

That's not the point though. Unsung is a great song for testing ability. That would be like taking Cowboys from Hell out because some people can't pass it. Tournament formats should be fair across the board for open competition.

**trofl** · Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 1297 Location: Ames, IA

First round - One song randomly picked, medium difficulty, everyone plays the same song, take the upper half
Second round - One song randomly picked, hard difficulty, everyone plays the same song, take the upper half
Third round - One song randomly picked, expert difficulty, everyone plays the same song, take the top two
Fourth round - One song randomly picked, expert difficulty... perhaps narrow it down to Face Melters category for dramatic effect, play as simultaneously as possible on two setups, top score wins. Option: best 2/3.

Pros:
Can use as many setups as possible, possibly the fastest way to run a tourney
No head-to-head eliminates need for double-elim to get top players matched up

Cons:
Players can see each others' SP paths, player(s) going first has disadvantage
Players must be alright with expert difficulty if they expect to proceed into final round
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**Sephi** · Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 454 Location: Albuquerque, NM

**popemobile** · Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Posts: 3879

Make seperate brackets for each difficulty

**discgolferpro** · Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 861 Location: Kansas City, Mo

**ES942** · Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 3445 Location: Snalbans

that's why GH2 will be better. both players play the whole song note for note in versus, and you can choose separate difficulties. (why didn't they do that it the first one?)

**Sephi** · Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 454 Location: Albuquerque, NM

Maybe another change would be to pick the top 4 at the end rather than the top two. This would make it more competitive at the top.

**Azuarc** · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 1389 Location: Philadelphia

**Sephi** · Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 454 Location: Albuquerque, NM

The only problem with that system is guitar hero scoring within the game. It is very possible to get the same percentage, but have very different scores. Then one could get say a 99% and the "loser" gets 98%, but the guy with 98% used his star power much more effectively and had a higher score, BUT he lost the match. I know I keep coming back and bashing each method, but it's really a serious subject to make sure that a tournament is as fair as possible. I mean I really do run tournaments and these problems do come up. I've run a lot of videogame tournaments and rules can make or break the turnout. This is why I keep asking so much.

Oh and one more thing to consider. We haven't talked much about total people for the tournament. My idea for the best-two-out-of-three would be very ideal for making a worthwhile tournament for up to 8 people. Any more and I would go with the other idea for taking the top half. But, that would be illogical to use for say 4-6 people or less.

**trofl** · Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 1297 Location: Ames, IA

DDR is much easier to tourney because you have more variables than just a straight score... Perfects, Greats, etc. You can create your own scoring system that way. Not so much in GH, which is why it really blows in the scoring dept. like Sephi says.
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