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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barfo broke my brain with his last post..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that this has been Implemented succesfully, I think we should be able to have links to the SP paths from the manage scores page. Like "Insert", "Delete", "View", "SP Path". That way, we can finish a song, update our score, and then right away be able to view the SP Paths for the next song to work on. Just a suggestion. Plz don't ban.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i kno this post might be a long time after the other ones but i waznt sure where to put this so ill put it here. how come with some songs it doesnt automatically calculate you star rating, instead you have to mannually type in a star rating of 3-5. just wondering
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That happens when the star cutoffs haven't been proven yet. Once one of the cutoffs gets proven, it can be used to calculate the others.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

9*? Has anyone ever achieved a 9* in any song? xD
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ubermode wrote:
9*? Has anyone ever achieved a 9* in any song? xD


No.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like how this website goes even higher to show you how much better you are than the 5 star cut offs, very cool!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the guitar hero III extended ratings the same as the gh2 calculations?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I AM CONFUSED
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graf wrote:
is the guitar hero III extended ratings the same as the gh2 calculations?


I think so. I am kinda new around here, so I'm not 100% certain, but from what I can tell, the 5-star cutoff on GH3 is 2.8 average multiplier, the same as GH2, and the extended ratings are based off of that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry if this has been addressed already, but how come some songs give the full star rating while others don't? I take it if it doesn't have its base score and/or 4/5-star cutoff proven, it's impossible to tell its exact star rating?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graf wrote:
is the guitar hero III extended ratings the same as the gh2 calculations?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rohrk21 wrote:
I'm sorry if this has been addressed already, but how come some songs give the full star rating while others don't? I take it if it doesn't have its base score and/or 4/5-star cutoff proven, it's impossible to tell its exact star rating?


Exactly, it's because the cut-off hasn't been proven yet. Feel free to prove it yourself and submit the result.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fenderstrat806 wrote:
I AM CONFUSED


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JCirri wrote:
Code:

|                   |   Avg. Mult.     | SH Decimal Rating |
|   In-game Rating  |   GH1  |   GH2   |   GH1   |   GH2   |
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|      4-stars      |  2.0x  |  2.0x   |   4.0   |   4.0   |
|      5-stars      |  3.0x  |  2.8x   |   5.0   |   5.0   |
|      6-stars      |  4.0x  |  3.6x   |   6.0   |   6.0   |
|      7-stars      |  5.0x  |  4.4x   |   7.0   |   7.0   |
|      8-stars      |  6.0x  |  5.2x   |   8.0   |   8.0   |
|      9-stars      |  7.0x  |  6.0x   |   9.0   |   9.0   |

After reading the 1/8/08 updates in tma's Song Scores, Extended Star Ratings and Cut-Offs FAQ 20080108 it struck me that the math on the GH2/GH3 extended ratings might be faulty. I searched that thread and this one (the only logic places) to see if this has been brought up, so if there's an errant post out there, sorry, but it really should be addressed, either way, in this post.

If the 5* multiplier is 2.8x (40% more than 4*) instead of 3x (50% more) then shouldn't 6* be 3.92x, 7* = 5.488x, 8* = 7.6832x, 9* = 10.75648x? Or working off the GH1:GH2 ratio: 5* = 3.0:2.8 = 15:14 = 93 1/3%. Which would make 6* = 3.72x, 7* = 4.65x, 8* = 5.58x, 9* = 6.51x.

I understand the extended scoring is an arbitrary system we made up ("we" = the "royal" we = JCirri) and that logic doesn't necessarily apply. I understand this is the way it's been done for quite a while now and changing it would upset those that are opposed to change, not matter the reason. I understand this makes the extended scores more difficult and changing it would upset those that are above the old cutoffs, but below the "logical" ones; especially the 8*'s, since the first set of calculations put the 8* higher than the old 9*, which has yet to be achieved (?). I'm not even proposing that we actually change it, I was just curious if this was considered and if there was a reason it was rejected.
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