Guitar Hero 3: what allows Hammer Ons & Pull Offs?

**Deathsnapper** · Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 41 Location: Toronto, Canada

I just finished working on a custom song, and was disappointed to find a lot of notes that I wanted to be HOPO-able needed to be picked. It seems only 16th notes and faster can be hammered, and at 200 bpm this doesn't allow very many. I know I should have checked this before I went and finished the chart and synced everything, it was a mistake.

I recalled discussions some months back about it being related to the bpm of the first beat of the song. I tried lowering it down to 50. No dice. So I tried raising it to 400. Still nothing.

I couldn't find anything in search, although I probably didn't dig deep enough. I went through the first 5 pages under searchs of "gh3 hopo" "gh3 hammer" "hammer" and "hopo", searched under the Software section. Yes I read the FAQ, but that seems to refer to GH2 which seems to have a different system.

Does GH3 determine whether a note is HOPO-able based on the tempo during that, or those (including the hammered/pulled to) notes? Does it have to do with the first beat? Or is there another way?

Also if it has to do with the tempo during the notes, is there any way to lower the tempo without having to rechart the entire song?

**charliehorse55** · Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 452 Location: Right Behind You

I don't know much about this, but there was a thread a week ago about this. You can set the HOPO level through a certain dtb file, independent of the BPM. Anarchy in the U.K. is an example of a song that uses a different HOPO setup than default. Look around in GHex and try to find the file.

Nice job on the chart btw

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**Leff** · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 1315

He's talking about GH3 - Use this! (I'm really excited it actually works

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**Deathsnapper** · Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 41 Location: Toronto, Canada

Awesome, that really saved me on this chart. But could you explain what defines an automatically placed hammer on or pull off in GH3 for future charts?

Thanks a lot for the program, by the way. Getting on that now so that I can start a new song sooner

Edit: Also, I'm playing GH3 on the PC. If I change the chart into a .qb won't that make it impossible to import it with the songlist editor? I don't know much about that stuff, so I'm just making sure.

Edit 2: From reading the rest of that thread and the posts in it I see that it wont work on GH3 PC.

**Leff** · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 1315

Anything shorter than an 8th note will be a hopo by default.
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**gurkos** · Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1

maybe it can be used to work with gh3 pc after all...
leff, how does your program work; does it change the bpm for the sections where i want forced HOPOs (thats the idea i got from your post in your songEditor thread)

**Leff** · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 1315