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JCirri
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: No One Like You |
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CycloneVM
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 366 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Yusuke
Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 1663
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the chart was performed by Leg in his video, I just transcribed it.
But ya, I did all the green and blue and stuff.
The path works like a charm, it increased my score by a bunch, too bad I can't FC the solo yet. Goddam Surrender part. _________________
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Bandin
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 118 Location: Fresno, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone having trouble with Solo B, it's easier for me to play it similar to Jordan's bridge, using HO/PO's.
Hold down the yellow and slap whichever other finger you're using down on the blue, then strum immediately after.
It should sound like: da da *pause* da da *pause* etc.
I just realized how terrible I am at explaining things. |
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Yusuke
Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 1663
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Bandin wrote: | Anyone having trouble with Solo B, it's easier for me to play it similar to Jordan's bridge, using HO/PO's.
Hold down the yellow and slap whichever other finger you're using down on the blue, then strum immediately after.
It should sound like: da da *pause* da da *pause* etc.
I just realized how terrible I am at explaining things. |
I've tried that, but only on actual runs where I botch it. I'll guess I'll just have to bring it into practice mode. _________________
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debr5836
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 1159 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: Evenly spaced blank charts from debr |
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Here is a link to my evenly-spaced blank chart with the SPs outlined in green:
debr's blank chart
Please post any bugs/questions about these charts HERE. |
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Cloud7654
Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 127 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Bandin wrote: | Anyone having trouble with Solo B, it's easier for me to play it similar to Jordan's bridge, using HO/PO's.
Hold down the yellow and slap whichever other finger you're using down on the blue, then strum immediately after.
It should sound like: da da *pause* da da *pause* etc.
I just realized how terrible I am at explaining things. |
Hmm, never thought of that. I'll have to try it out, seeing as I totally screw that solo up the way I play it. |
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AskMeAboutLoom
Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Posts: 10
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: |
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There's a good six more notes to be had if you delay the fourth activation 'till beat 3 of measure 84. Should let out right on the downbeat of 89. |
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GameZelda
Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 1705
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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I never played this song with a path, so excuse me if I do any stupid mistake on the path.
Hummmm... nobody notices that using 2-2 is better?
2 - 24.0 (G note) -31.625 (B note)
2 - 45.75 (No note)- 50,75 (After RB chord)
It's +300 BS (base score) better (1200 points with multiplier)
Another tweak... move 4th to 84.5 (should end at 89.0) and you will get 188 BS points more.
... And another... move 5th to 98.3 aprox. (R note), it should end on the 2nd RB chord... +106 BS
I think that my tweaks made the path like 2376 points better. _________________
(Ok, I failed to do it in 24 hours... ).
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Barbaloot
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 1583
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's the path I use, but it doesn't really do me much good since I can't hit solo B... _________________
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Yusuke
Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 1663
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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GameZelda wrote: | I never played this song with a path, so excuse me if I do any stupid mistake on the path.
Hummmm... nobody notices that using 2-2 is better?
2 - 24.0 (G note) -31.625 (B note)
2 - 45.75 (No note)- 50,75 (After RB chord)
It's +300 BS (base score) better (1200 points with multiplier)
Another tweak... move 4th to 84.5 (should end at 89.0) and you will get 188 BS points more.
... And another... move 5th to 98.3 aprox. (R note), it should end on the 2nd RB chord... +106 BS
I think that my tweaks made the path like 2376 points better. |
Im just usin the path that Leg put in his video... Ill look into this later, seeing as I cant hit solo b (staircases, not surrendery fill) and its not in league.
Also, i made this on debr's old chart, which had a lot less info... I really had no way to check the base scores and such, as looking at the non-evenly spaced paths bugs me now.... personal preference I guess
EDIT: Fine, looking into it now, since i apparently have time.
From my calculations (watching leg's video to transcribe my chart), his first activation during the opening solo nets a BS of 2515. His second activation (running over a star power, mind you), nets a BS of 1512, with a total BS of 4027.
From GZ's calculations, activating after the long O note (the G note), will net you a BS of 2780. His second activation, using the SP that Leg skipped, and still manages to stay before the star power, clocks in at a BS of 1600. This nets a total BS of 4380.
Overall, the superior path is GZ's, with the difference in BS being 353. Since these BS are under SP, we can give them a x8, which gives the difference to the total score a whopping 2,824. And that's just the first tweak.
Next tweak is to the 4th activation (apparently the third activation was pro ). The first thing to understand is that you get an automatic quarter bar from the phrase and then 9.5 beats of whammy. After many calculations, it turns out this gives you 4 and 8/15ths measures of SP. Decimal wise, it is 4.53333333333 measures of SP.
Leg's path had the activation start at chorus 2b, and the SP ran out without ending in a hold, making the calculation easy. This had the BS end up at 1317. GZ's tweak starts out on the red hold at 84.5. 4.5 measures later is 89.0, or the blue note, making the BS 1505. After even more careful calculations, the .03333333 measures that are still left give an approximate 3 more BS points. This brings the BS to an ever marginal 1508.
Again, the superior tactic is GZ's, netting a BS difference of 191, and a x8 difference (SP, remember?) of 1528.
The final tweak is the solo SP. The two phrases required for the activation give 8 beats of whammy along with an automatic half bar. Again, with calculations, it ends up being 6 and 2/15ths measures of SP. Decimal-wise, this is 6.13333333333 measures of SP.
Leg's path starts right after the second phrase, at 96.375, the Y note. I believe my transcription has a slight error in Leg's beginning activation, however, as it looks like he starts it on the B note. (If Leg can confirm or deny this from his video, I would greatly appreciate it, as the video has some sketchy sections when it comes to video quality.)
As such, I will do my calculating from the B note to the end of the activation on my transcription, the Y note at 102.625. This nets a BS of 4334.
GZ's activation starts at the R note before the surrendery fills, or at 98.3125. If my SP calculations are correct, it will NOT reach the RB chord at the beginning of the chorus. This activation nets you a BS of 4291. However, I am not sure whether or not the chord can be squeezed. If it can, it nets you 4391 BS, cuz of the additional 100 BS chord.
If you can't squeeze, Leg's path finally prevails with a difference in 43 BS, or 344 total under SP. If you can squeeze it in, GZ's path gives a difference of 57 BS, or 456 total. Overall, the difference is a mere hundreds of points (although in a squeeze battle this may be important).
Overall, GZ's tweaks are the way to go, especially with the first activations. If you use GZ's and you can't squeeze it, then it nets you 4008 more points. If you can, then it nets you 4808.
Tell me if you think my calculations are incorrect. Im pretty sure they are correct tho.
First real indepth analysis too, so tell me if it was too longwinded or something like that _________________
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GameZelda
Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 1705
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Yusuke wrote: | GameZelda wrote: | I never played this song with a path, so excuse me if I do any stupid mistake on the path.
Hummmm... nobody notices that using 2-2 is better?
2 - 24.0 (G note) -31.625 (B note)
2 - 45.75 (No note)- 50,75 (After RB chord)
It's +300 BS (base score) better (1200 points with multiplier)
Another tweak... move 4th to 84.5 (should end at 89.0) and you will get 188 BS points more.
... And another... move 5th to 98.3 aprox. (R note), it should end on the 2nd RB chord... +106 BS
I think that my tweaks made the path like 2376 points better. |
Im just usin the path that Leg put in his video... Ill look into this later, seeing as I cant hit solo b (staircases, not surrendery fill) and its not in league.
Also, i made this on debr's old chart, which had a lot less info... I really had no way to check the base scores and such, as looking at the non-evenly spaced paths bugs me now.... personal preference I guess
EDIT: Fine, looking into it now, since i apparently have time.
From my calculations (watching leg's video to transcribe my chart), his first activation during the opening solo nets a BS of 2515. His second activation (running over a star power, mind you), nets a BS of 1512, with a total BS of 4027.
From GZ's calculations, activating after the long O note (the G note), will net you a BS of 2780. His second activation, using the SP that Leg skipped, and still manages to stay before the star power, clocks in at a BS of 1600. This nets a total BS of 4380.
Overall, the superior path is GZ's, with the difference in BS being 353. Since these BS are under SP, we can give them a x8, which gives the difference to the total score a whopping 2,824. And that's just the first tweak.
Next tweak is to the 4th activation (apparently the third activation was pro ). The first thing to understand is that you get an automatic quarter bar from the phrase and then 9.5 beats of whammy. After many calculations, it turns out this gives you 4 and 8/15ths measures of SP. Decimal wise, it is 4.53333333333 measures of SP.
Leg's path had the activation start at chorus 2b, and the SP ran out without ending in a hold, making the calculation easy. This had the BS end up at 1317. GZ's tweak starts out on the red hold at 84.5. 4.5 measures later is 89.0, or the blue note, making the BS 1505. After even more careful calculations, the .03333333 measures that are still left give an approximate 3 more BS points. This brings the BS to an ever marginal 1508.
Again, the superior tactic is GZ's, netting a BS difference of 191, and a x8 difference (SP, remember?) of 1528.
The final tweak is the solo SP. The two phrases required for the activation give 8 beats of whammy along with an automatic half bar. Again, with calculations, it ends up being 6 and 2/15ths measures of SP. Decimal-wise, this is 6.13333333333 measures of SP.
Leg's path starts right after the second phrase, at 96.375, the Y note. I believe my transcription has a slight error in Leg's beginning activation, however, as it looks like he starts it on the B note. (If Leg can confirm or deny this from his video, I would greatly appreciate it, as the video has some sketchy sections when it comes to video quality.)
As such, I will do my calculating from the B note to the end of the activation on my transcription, the Y note at 102.625. This nets a BS of 4334.
GZ's activation starts at the R note before the surrendery fills, or at 98.3125. If my SP calculations are correct, it will NOT reach the RB chord at the beginning of the chorus. This activation nets you a BS of 4291. However, I am not sure whether or not the chord can be squeezed. If it can, it nets you 4391 BS, cuz of the additional 100 BS chord.
If you can't squeeze, Leg's path finally prevails with a difference in 43 BS, or 344 total under SP. If you can squeeze it in, GZ's path gives a difference of 57 BS, or 456 total. Overall, the difference is a mere hundreds of points (although in a squeeze battle this may be important).
Overall, GZ's tweaks are the way to go, especially with the first activations. If you use GZ's and you can't squeeze it, then it nets you 4008 more points. If you can, then it nets you 4808.
Tell me if you think my calculations are incorrect. Im pretty sure they are correct tho.
First real indepth analysis too, so tell me if it was too longwinded or something like that |
you shouldn't use x8. You should use x4. If you do more notes under SP, they give his value on x4, because if you don't play those notes under SP, you will play them under x4 anyway.
(4808 / 8) * 4 = 4808 / 2 = 2404 = Difference between my path and legleg path _________________
(Ok, I failed to do it in 24 hours... ).
GH:WT-PS2 Customization Progress
[ 100%] Make it work (w/songs loading) in a DVD5 (thanks psychospacefish!)
[ 100%] Modify audio (Finally done 25/11/2008)
[ 100%] Modify charts (Done 26/11/2008! Customs finally ) |
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Slowhand
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 625 Location: Lombard, Illinois
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Gotta say way too close to the long winded end of the spectrum. After reading all this, I finally got my answer, what I done myself was good to go. Probably could lose the decimal and fractal lengthes and just post the start and end points. And this from a long winder myself. _________________
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Yusuke
Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 1663
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Aight, i havent fixed up into a pic, but when i do itll go into this post.
But the path is:
2-2-1-1-2-2
1. from 24.0 (R Note) to 31.625 (B note)
2. from 45.75 (no note) to 50.75 (no note)
3. from 58.0 (R Note) to 61.25 (R note) (im pretty sure it has to be squeezed)
4. from 84.5 (R Note) to 89 (B note) (goes a little into the hold)
5. from 98.1325 (R note) to 104.5 (RB note) (squeeze definitely needed)
6. right away, lasts till end
better?
and it doesnt help that GZ quoted it, making it appear twice _________________
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Legleg
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