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JCirri
Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 4576
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: Soy Bomb |
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RiseOfAsh
Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 683
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Alright, I figured I'd add in the SP path since I've tried futilely to squeeze more points from this and I just can't seem to do it, so maybe someone else can brush up this a bit. So far, there seem to be three possible paths, one taking 9/11 SPs, one using 10/11 (the one I use), and another using 10/11. So far, the 10/11 has produced the best for me.
SP #1: Whammy at least the two long notes to get the 50%. Activate right at the end of the next long yellow. This should end right in the middle of the chorus.
SP #2, 3: Grab each one, whammying the long chords on SP #3, activate also right after the next long yellow note, before the YYBYR. Again, it should end in the chorus part, on the note before SP#4
SP #4, 5, 6: Grab these three and hold them. After the second paused parts, activate them right at the start of the YB chords. This will cause you to miss SP #7, but this part has the most points you can gain. You'll end back in the main riff.
SP #8, 9, (10): Okay, here seem to be the three possible methods-
*The 9 SP one would ideally activate right at the start of SP #9 after whammying 8 and 9, which carries you through it's notes and the main riff that follows.
*The 10/11 path has you whammy the 8 and 9 chords and pick up 10, activating it immediately. This will carry you through two sections of the main riff and 3 long chords, ending on the 4th.
*For the alternate 10/11 path, do not whammy 8 and 9, and activate SP almost immediately after you hit 8 (while still holding the chord). It will end just in time for you to pick up SP:10
SP#(10), 11:
*For the first two paths, whammy the 3 SP chords and you should get SP right before the outro solo. After the solo (the RRYBBY), activate it on the green note and it should carry you through all the chords at the end.
*For the alternate, if you picked up #10, then whammy #11 and activate it during the first BBY of the outro solo. It should carry you all the way to the end.
The reason I listed all three is because honestly, the results are so close together that I can't figure out which is ideal. The alternate path seems to be a little weaker than the other two (by maybe 700-800 pts), but the first two are almost deadlocked. Testing each, I managed to consistantly hit between 143,400 and 143,950 for 6 runs straight.
Edit: Ironically, I just did another test run and best the 1st place score by about 150 points. >_> Come get me if you can squeeze more out.
Or in short:
1 - 2 - 3 - 3- 1 (all whammied) is my preferred path.
Last edited by RiseOfAsh on Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:17 am; edited 1 time in total |
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malictus
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 994 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Here's mine. Interestingly, it's somewhat different from the ones used by RiseOfAsh, but seems to score about the same. Ash, perhaps you can score even more by altering the first half of the song to resemble this??
SP#1 - Activate just as the next star power begins.
SP#2 (Skip)
SP#3, SP#4 - DON'T WHAMMY; activate on the next note
SP#5, SP#6 - Activate just as repeated chords begin.
SP#7 (Skip)
SP#8, SP#9, SP#10 - Activate immediately
SP#11 - Activate two notes before chords begin (so that SP ends as song ends). _________________
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malictus
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 994 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm I think your strat is actually better, Ash. I managed 144,899 just now with it. I just tweaked the beginning and ending points in a few places, and managed to get in a squeeze or two. _________________
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Slowhand
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 625 Location: Lombard, Illinois
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Ok so the key from my lame strat. is to sp through #7 for the points.
Ashes description got confusing after he skips sp #7 and then said to whammy 7 and 8, which I assume is 2p 8 and sp 9. Is that right?
Looks like I got about 5 different ways to try this, thanks for the info
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malictus
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 994 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Slowhand wrote: | Ashes description got confusing after he skips sp #7 and then said to whammy 7 and 8, which I assume is 2p 8 and sp 9. Is that right? |
Yeah, I think that was just a typo _________________
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debr5836
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 1159 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: |
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spopt.pl optimized path for soybomb.mid (medium)
File: soybomb.mid
Solution Path: 1-S1-1-S1-2-S1-3-1
Estimated Base score 27809
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 108151
Estimated SP Score 37770
Estimated Total Score 145921
Activations:
From meas 22.2500 (Y note) to meas 26.8561 (R sust) Score: 5423 ((25.0 + 2.1) * 200 )
From meas 38.5000 (R note) to meas 42.7500 (Y note) Score: 5180 ((24.0 + 1.9) * 200 )
From meas 63.0000 (YB note) to meas 69.5000 (R note) Score: 11400 ((57.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 98.2500 (G note) to meas 106.3281 (RY sust) Score: 9367 ((31.0 + 15.8) * 200 )
From meas 112.5000 (B note) to meas 117.0000 (RY note) Score: 6400 ((32.0 + 0.0) * 200 ) |
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Cdw01
Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 923 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:02 am Post subject: |
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debr5836 wrote: | Solution Path: 1-S1-1-S1-2-S1-3-1 |
Surprisingly, this is actually better than our old 1-2-3-3-1, even though it skips 2 more sp phrases, by around 350-400 points. _________________
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siouxper
Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 411
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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debr5836 wrote: |
Solution Path: 1-S1-1-S1-2-S1-3-1
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I'll try that out. Although I will probably end up using 1-2-3-3-1 because I am horrible at memorizing paths |
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debr5836
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 1159 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: spopt2.pl results |
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spopt2.pl results for "Soy Bomb" (gh2-ps2/medium) generated on 07/20/2007
lazy-whammy (140471) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (145283) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (145815) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (146799) PNG TXT
upper-bound (147235) PNG TXT
KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying
big-squeeze path details
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File: soybomb.mid
Solution Path: 1-S1-1-3-S1-3-1
Estimated Base score 27738
Estimated 4* cutoff 55476
Estimated 5* cutoff 77666
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 108187
Estimated SP Score 37628
Estimated Total Score 145815
Activations:
#1 From meas 22.2500 (Y note) to meas 26.7860 (R sust) ( 22.3260- 26.7860) Score: 5392 (25.0+ 2.0)*200
#2 From meas 30.0000 (G note) to meas 34.1360 (Y sust) ( 30.0760- 34.1360) Score: 3456 (13.0+ 4.3)*200
#3 From meas 63.0000 (YB note) to meas 71.0714 (Y sust) ( 63.0714- 71.0714) Score: 13028 (65.0+ 0.1)*200
#4 From meas 98.0000 (G note) to meas 106.0740 (RY sust) ( 98.0740-106.0740) Score: 9352 (32.0+14.8)*200
#5 From meas 112.5000 (B note) to meas 117.0000 (RY note) (112.5410-116.9344) Score: 6400 (32.0+ 0.0)*200
nearly-ideal path details
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File: soybomb.mid
Solution Path: 1-S1-1-S1-2-S1-3-1
Estimated Base score 27738
Estimated 4* cutoff 55476
Estimated 5* cutoff 77666
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 108187
Estimated SP Score 38612
Estimated Total Score 146799
Activations:
#1 From meas 22.0000 (B note) to meas 26.7794 (R sust) ( 22.0760- 26.7794) Score: 5592 (26.0+ 2.0)*200
#2 From meas 38.7500 (G note) to meas 43.0000 (R note) ( 38.6988- 43.0010) Score: 5256 (24.0+ 2.3)*200
#3 From meas 63.0000 (YB note) to meas 70.0000 (G note) ( 63.0013- 69.9302) Score: 11800 (59.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 98.0000 (G note) to meas 106.0740 (RY sust) ( 98.0740-106.0740) Score: 9352 (32.0+14.8)*200
#5 From meas 112.6250 (B note) to meas 117.3308 (RY sust) (112.6964-117.3308) Score: 6612 (33.0+ 0.1)*200
upper-bound path details
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File: soybomb.mid
Solution Path: 1-S1-1-S1-2-S1-3-1
Estimated Base score 27738
Estimated 4* cutoff 55476
Estimated 5* cutoff 77666
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 108187
Estimated SP Score 39048
Estimated Total Score 147235
Activations:
#1 From meas 22.0000 (B note) to meas 26.8598 (R sust) ( 22.0953- 26.8598) Score: 5624 (26.0+ 2.1)*200
#2 From meas 38.5000 (R note) to meas 43.0000 (R note) ( 38.5450- 42.9083) Score: 5456 (25.0+ 2.3)*200
#3 From meas 63.0000 (YB note) to meas 70.0000 (G note) ( 62.9688- 70.0010) Score: 11800 (59.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 98.0000 (G note) to meas 106.0927 (RY sust) ( 98.0927-106.0927) Score: 9368 (32.0+14.8)*200
#5 From meas 112.5000 (B note) to meas 117.3125 (RY note) (112.5896-117.2846) Score: 6800 (34.0+ 0.0)*200
Please post any bugs/questions about these auto-generated paths HERE. |
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