Thunderhorse

[JCirri]

Note Chart

[JCirri]

Note Chart

[speedzoo]

Anybody with a SP path?

I want so badly to get over 99999 one this one!

Current score isn`t.

[speedzoo]

Anybody with a SP path?

I want so badly to get over 99999 one this one!

Current score isn`t.

[tpalkki]

1-2-2-3-1

Edit: Oh, perhaps I should point out that the first and second to last activations should be a few measures later. Especially the latter, because of the time signatures.
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[tpalkki]

1-2-2-3-1

Edit: Oh, perhaps I should point out that the first and second to last activations should be a few measures later. Especially the latter, because of the time signatures.
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[speedzoo]

Thank you tpalkki!

I finally joined the 100.000 club today.

[speedzoo]

Thank you tpalkki!

I finally joined the 100.000 club today.

[arfdoggy]

1-2-2-3-2
got 102070 without squeezing and with some hold points missing
does this do better than
1-2-2-3-1 with waiting two measures after the 3sp group
someone confirm please
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The Fresh Maker

[arfdoggy]

1-2-2-3-2
got 102070 without squeezing and with some hold points missing
does this do better than
1-2-2-3-1 with waiting two measures after the 3sp group
someone confirm please
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The Fresh Maker

[Kankuro]

So what do we do with that... I am a pure newb...

[Kankuro]

So what do we do with that... I am a pure newb...

[malictus]

My new #1 actually uses a different path --- 1 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 2. My current best of 105615 is far from optimal...
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RB3 Pro Keys Expert Progress:
FC's: 39/63 on-disc + 38 DLC

[malictus]

My new #1 actually uses a different path --- 1 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 2. My current best of 105615 is far from optimal...
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RB3 Pro Keys Expert Progress:
FC's: 39/63 on-disc + 38 DLC

[Loncaros]

[Loncaros]

[Slowhand]

For the noobs posted earlier, I'll try and make Malictus path clearer. He's pretty good at this though so don't expect ot equal his scores, at least not right away.
1-2-3-2-2 are the number of SP phrases to get before activating.

Get 1 sp - with 12 beats of hold, you can get more than a half meter. 7.5 beats will get half so you get about 5 1/4 measures of star power. Every little bit of hold notes under sp adds up, so you should act. right away on the first green note which will be tough after the whammy.
Get the next 2 phrases, and with the 3.75 beats of whammy at the end of SP3 you get 5 measures of star power. Again the best starting point is the first note after SP3
collect 3 sp phrases, and by whammying the short hold note in sp4, you get 6 1/4 measures of star power. This one doesn't seem to matter where you start because it's all 4 notes per measure pointwise. Top scorers tend to activate with the select button and activate the millisecond before hitting the first note under star power, which lets them squeeze out one extra note worth of points under SP. It's a hard but critical technique for the biggest points. I fail miserably at this myself.
Get the next 2. If you can whammy all those short holds and not screw up you're gonna get 6 measures and have to activate right away. This is another big difference in scores, those short little whammies are hard to do (and not lose the combo). He's better than me and may even activate this one during the final hold note of SP8 which could get another 100 points or so???
Get the final 2, and once again if you can whammy all the short holds of SP9, you can fill the meter after SP10. I would activate on the first note after the short break because you could squeeze in a note. It's really close pointwise if you use it more towards the end with all the sustains. But I think this is where he's gonna activate.

Alot of times players will post a path and let you figure where to activate for the most points. In this case I think it's the very next note in each case.

The new member on 3/22 had it figured out though, cool. Now go on and spend several weeks reading all the forums, cause there's a ton of good info in there.
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goals = mediocrity + 1 on all levels
*goal achieved!*
Guitarist for Heaven's Wrath
Vocal Stylings for Throat Punch
PSN - jaypen123
GH3 and RB community - Slowhand123

[Slowhand]

For the noobs posted earlier, I'll try and make Malictus path clearer. He's pretty good at this though so don't expect ot equal his scores, at least not right away.
1-2-3-2-2 are the number of SP phrases to get before activating.

Get 1 sp - with 12 beats of hold, you can get more than a half meter. 7.5 beats will get half so you get about 5 1/4 measures of star power. Every little bit of hold notes under sp adds up, so you should act. right away on the first green note which will be tough after the whammy.
Get the next 2 phrases, and with the 3.75 beats of whammy at the end of SP3 you get 5 measures of star power. Again the best starting point is the first note after SP3
collect 3 sp phrases, and by whammying the short hold note in sp4, you get 6 1/4 measures of star power. This one doesn't seem to matter where you start because it's all 4 notes per measure pointwise. Top scorers tend to activate with the select button and activate the millisecond before hitting the first note under star power, which lets them squeeze out one extra note worth of points under SP. It's a hard but critical technique for the biggest points. I fail miserably at this myself.
Get the next 2. If you can whammy all those short holds and not screw up you're gonna get 6 measures and have to activate right away. This is another big difference in scores, those short little whammies are hard to do (and not lose the combo). He's better than me and may even activate this one during the final hold note of SP8 which could get another 100 points or so???
Get the final 2, and once again if you can whammy all the short holds of SP9, you can fill the meter after SP10. I would activate on the first note after the short break because you could squeeze in a note. It's really close pointwise if you use it more towards the end with all the sustains. But I think this is where he's gonna activate.

Alot of times players will post a path and let you figure where to activate for the most points. In this case I think it's the very next note in each case.

The new member on 3/22 had it figured out though, cool. Now go on and spend several weeks reading all the forums, cause there's a ton of good info in there.
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goals = mediocrity + 1 on all levels
*goal achieved!*
Guitarist for Heaven's Wrath
Vocal Stylings for Throat Punch
PSN - jaypen123
GH3 and RB community - Slowhand123

[Ice]

It doesn't matter how I do it whether it's 1-2-2-3-1, 1-2-3-2-2, or 1-2-2-3-2 the score always seems to come out the same between 101500-102000, does my squeezing just suck that bad?

Edit: 1-2-3-2-2 dont' know what I was doing before but i broke 104k thanks
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CoD runs my life in the gaming world now.

[Ice]

It doesn't matter how I do it whether it's 1-2-2-3-1, 1-2-3-2-2, or 1-2-2-3-2 the score always seems to come out the same between 101500-102000, does my squeezing just suck that bad?

Edit: 1-2-3-2-2 dont' know what I was doing before but i broke 104k thanks
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CoD runs my life in the gaming world now.

[debr5836]

spopt.pl optimized path for thunderhorse.mid (medium)

File: thunderhorse.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-3-2-S1-1
Estimated Base score 21315
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 80335
Estimated SP Score 26073
Estimated Total Score 106408
Activations:
From meas 17.5000 (R note) to meas 22.8120 (Y sust) Score: 4300 ((19.0 + 2.5) * 200 )
From meas 31.8828 (B sust) to meas 37.0000 (G note) Score: 4421 ((21.0 + 1.1) * 200 )
From meas 60.0000 (G note) to meas 66.2500 (R note) Score: 5200 ((26.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 84.5000 (R note) to meas 90.6667 (Y note) Score: 7352 ((32.0 + 4.8) * 200 )
From meas 96.5000 (B note) to meas 101.8750 (R note) Score: 4800 ((23.0 + 1.0) * 200 )

[debr5836]

spopt.pl optimized path for thunderhorse.mid (medium)

File: thunderhorse.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-3-2-S1-1
Estimated Base score 21315
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 80335
Estimated SP Score 26073
Estimated Total Score 106408
Activations:
From meas 17.5000 (R note) to meas 22.8120 (Y sust) Score: 4300 ((19.0 + 2.5) * 200 )
From meas 31.8828 (B sust) to meas 37.0000 (G note) Score: 4421 ((21.0 + 1.1) * 200 )
From meas 60.0000 (G note) to meas 66.2500 (R note) Score: 5200 ((26.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 84.5000 (R note) to meas 90.6667 (Y note) Score: 7352 ((32.0 + 4.8) * 200 )
From meas 96.5000 (B note) to meas 101.8750 (R note) Score: 4800 ((23.0 + 1.0) * 200 )

[debr5836]

spopt2.pl results for "Thunderhorse" (gh2-ps2/medium) generated on 07/20/2007

lazy-whammy (104203) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (105719) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (108307) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (108679) PNG TXT
upper-bound (108971) PNG TXT

KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying

big-squeeze path details
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File: thunderhorse.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-3-2-1-1
Estimated Base score 21302
Estimated 4* cutoff 42604
Estimated 5* cutoff 59645
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 80335
Estimated SP Score 27972
Estimated Total Score 108307
Activations:
#1 From meas 17.5000 (R note) to meas 22.7760 (Y sust) ( 17.5760- 22.7760) Score: 4284 (19.0+ 2.4)*200
#2 From meas 32.0000 (G note) to meas 37.0000 (G note) ( 31.9990- 36.9990) Score: 4400 (21.0+ 1.0)*200
#3 From meas 60.0000 (G note) to meas 66.2500 (R note) ( 59.9844- 66.2510) Score: 5200 (26.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 78.9052 (R sust) to meas 84.9375 (R sust) ( 78.9052- 84.9375) Score: 4664 (19.0+ 4.3)*200
#5 From meas 86.8750 (G sust) to meas 90.6667 (Y note) ( 86.8750- 90.8750) Score: 4624 (23.0+ 0.1)*200
#6 From meas 96.5000 (B note) to meas 101.8750 (R note) ( 96.5545-101.7990) Score: 4800 (23.0+ 1.0)*200

nearly-ideal path details
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File: thunderhorse.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-3-2-1-1
Estimated Base score 21302
Estimated 4* cutoff 42604
Estimated 5* cutoff 59645
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 80335
Estimated SP Score 28344
Estimated Total Score 108679
Activations:
#1 From meas 17.5000 (R note) to meas 22.8583 (Y sust) ( 17.5760- 22.8583) Score: 4316 (19.0+ 2.6)*200
#2 From meas 31.8912 (B sust) to meas 37.0000 (G note) ( 31.8912- 36.9240) Score: 4416 (21.0+ 1.1)*200
#3 From meas 63.0000 (R note) to meas 69.5000 (R note) ( 63.0760- 69.4249) Score: 5400 (27.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 78.8281 (R sust) to meas 84.9375 (R sust) ( 78.8257- 84.9375) Score: 4728 (19.0+ 4.6)*200
#5 From meas 86.8281 (G sust) to meas 90.6667 (Y note) ( 86.7979- 90.7979) Score: 4676 (23.0+ 0.4)*200
#6 From meas 96.5000 (B note) to meas 101.9027 (R sust) ( 96.5760-101.9027) Score: 4808 (23.0+ 1.0)*200

upper-bound path details
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File: thunderhorse.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-3-2-1-1
Estimated Base score 21302
Estimated 4* cutoff 42604
Estimated 5* cutoff 59645
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 80335
Estimated SP Score 28636
Estimated Total Score 108971
Activations:
#1 From meas 17.5000 (R note) to meas 22.8981 (Y sust) ( 17.5953- 22.8981) Score: 4332 (19.0+ 2.7)*200
#2 From meas 32.0000 (G note) to meas 37.2500 (Y note) ( 32.0519- 37.1547) Score: 4600 (22.0+ 1.0)*200
#3 From meas 60.0000 (G note) to meas 66.5000 (R note) ( 60.0953- 66.4648) Score: 5400 (27.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 78.8474 (R sust) to meas 85.0010 (R sust) ( 78.8365- 85.0010) Score: 4728 (19.0+ 4.6)*200
#5 From meas 86.8474 (G sust) to meas 90.6667 (Y note) ( 86.7786- 90.7786) Score: 4676 (23.0+ 0.4)*200
#6 From meas 95.0000 (R note) to meas 100.5000 (B note) ( 95.0575-100.4047) Score: 4900 (23.0+ 1.5)*200

Please post any bugs/questions about these auto-generated paths HERE.

[debr5836]

spopt2.pl results for "Thunderhorse" (gh2-ps2/medium) generated on 07/20/2007

lazy-whammy (104203) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (105719) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (108307) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (108679) PNG TXT
upper-bound (108971) PNG TXT

KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying

big-squeeze path details
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File: thunderhorse.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-3-2-1-1
Estimated Base score 21302
Estimated 4* cutoff 42604
Estimated 5* cutoff 59645
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 80335
Estimated SP Score 27972
Estimated Total Score 108307
Activations:
#1 From meas 17.5000 (R note) to meas 22.7760 (Y sust) ( 17.5760- 22.7760) Score: 4284 (19.0+ 2.4)*200
#2 From meas 32.0000 (G note) to meas 37.0000 (G note) ( 31.9990- 36.9990) Score: 4400 (21.0+ 1.0)*200
#3 From meas 60.0000 (G note) to meas 66.2500 (R note) ( 59.9844- 66.2510) Score: 5200 (26.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 78.9052 (R sust) to meas 84.9375 (R sust) ( 78.9052- 84.9375) Score: 4664 (19.0+ 4.3)*200
#5 From meas 86.8750 (G sust) to meas 90.6667 (Y note) ( 86.8750- 90.8750) Score: 4624 (23.0+ 0.1)*200
#6 From meas 96.5000 (B note) to meas 101.8750 (R note) ( 96.5545-101.7990) Score: 4800 (23.0+ 1.0)*200

nearly-ideal path details
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File: thunderhorse.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-3-2-1-1
Estimated Base score 21302
Estimated 4* cutoff 42604
Estimated 5* cutoff 59645
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 80335
Estimated SP Score 28344
Estimated Total Score 108679
Activations:
#1 From meas 17.5000 (R note) to meas 22.8583 (Y sust) ( 17.5760- 22.8583) Score: 4316 (19.0+ 2.6)*200
#2 From meas 31.8912 (B sust) to meas 37.0000 (G note) ( 31.8912- 36.9240) Score: 4416 (21.0+ 1.1)*200
#3 From meas 63.0000 (R note) to meas 69.5000 (R note) ( 63.0760- 69.4249) Score: 5400 (27.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 78.8281 (R sust) to meas 84.9375 (R sust) ( 78.8257- 84.9375) Score: 4728 (19.0+ 4.6)*200
#5 From meas 86.8281 (G sust) to meas 90.6667 (Y note) ( 86.7979- 90.7979) Score: 4676 (23.0+ 0.4)*200
#6 From meas 96.5000 (B note) to meas 101.9027 (R sust) ( 96.5760-101.9027) Score: 4808 (23.0+ 1.0)*200

upper-bound path details
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File: thunderhorse.mid
Solution Path: 1-2-3-2-1-1
Estimated Base score 21302
Estimated 4* cutoff 42604
Estimated 5* cutoff 59645
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 80335
Estimated SP Score 28636
Estimated Total Score 108971
Activations:
#1 From meas 17.5000 (R note) to meas 22.8981 (Y sust) ( 17.5953- 22.8981) Score: 4332 (19.0+ 2.7)*200
#2 From meas 32.0000 (G note) to meas 37.2500 (Y note) ( 32.0519- 37.1547) Score: 4600 (22.0+ 1.0)*200
#3 From meas 60.0000 (G note) to meas 66.5000 (R note) ( 60.0953- 66.4648) Score: 5400 (27.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 78.8474 (R sust) to meas 85.0010 (R sust) ( 78.8365- 85.0010) Score: 4728 (19.0+ 4.6)*200
#5 From meas 86.8474 (G sust) to meas 90.6667 (Y note) ( 86.7786- 90.7786) Score: 4676 (23.0+ 0.4)*200
#6 From meas 95.0000 (R note) to meas 100.5000 (B note) ( 95.0575-100.4047) Score: 4900 (23.0+ 1.5)*200

Please post any bugs/questions about these auto-generated paths HERE.

[Yusuke]

I really dont think any of the 1-2-3-2-1-1 paths that debr has work, mainly due to the fact that I havent been able to ever get a half bar out of the 2nd to last SP. Is it even possible?
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[Yusuke]

I really dont think any of the 1-2-3-2-1-1 paths that debr has work, mainly due to the fact that I havent been able to ever get a half bar out of the 2nd to last SP. Is it even possible?
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[Cdw01]

[Cdw01]

[Astat]

It's definitely possible to get half a bar out of the 2nd to last SP phrase, the thing that makes it really tough is you literally have to activate it immediately, otherwise you'll overlap the last SP phrase. The timing window is ridiculously small.
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GH1 Hard FCs: 41/47
GH2 Hard FCs: 41/64
GH80s Hard FCs: 16/30

[Astat]

It's definitely possible to get half a bar out of the 2nd to last SP phrase, the thing that makes it really tough is you literally have to activate it immediately, otherwise you'll overlap the last SP phrase. The timing window is ridiculously small.
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GH1 Hard FCs: 41/47
GH2 Hard FCs: 41/64
GH80s Hard FCs: 16/30