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dogmad86  





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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To max out your score... at the second activation do you use SP on the start of measure 113 or after the first 3 chords? Also, at the last activation, do you wait until after the GY chord (but before the next two) or do you try and include the GY chord... because I can't get the GY and the last chord... HELP! :P
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de1337ed  





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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's visual representation for this one.

Monkey Wrench Hard SP

The last SP should allow a squeeze of that single note and the final chord unless I count like a fool.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i tried it 3-2-2 and got 383638 now am going to try it 3-3 qmd i'll post the differenc (btw i fc'ed it too)
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rude95841  





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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i tried 3-3 and i got higher score (i even missed the scond to last note), lol so i think 3-3 is the best. there is my 2 cents, lol.
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thewhyan  





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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally, a FC!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rude95841 wrote:
ok i tried 3-3 and i got higher score (i even missed the scond to last note), lol so i think 3-3 is the best. there is my 2 cents, lol.

388178 with 3-2-2 (6th).
Therefore, methinks 3-2-2 is better.
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angusyoungisgod  





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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

omfg... i just got 386594, which is about 1K short of 7 star... ill get it eventually tho... ty for the path
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



3-2-2

This might be optimal. Got all squeezes and a few extra points (muhahaha).

The path posted above is correct except for the 2nd activation actually gets you to the next chord (only leaves the single G before the next SP begins)

rude95481 wrote:
ok i tried 3-3 and i got higher score (i even missed the scond to last note), lol so i think 3-3 is the best. there is my 2 cents, lol.


You need to learn to squeeze, my friend.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SO WHICH IS BETTER... 3-3 OR 3-2-2?!?!?
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3-2-2, judging by excelon and NIN's posts. I'll give this a try sometime soon as well, and report back.

Edit- Yeah, 3-2-2 is better. I got 1K less with 3-3, despite messing up the last activation on the 3-2-2. Conclusive proof! (maybe)
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eXcelon969 wrote:


3-2-2

This might be optimal. Got all squeezes and a few extra points (muhahaha).


O RLY?



same path, squeeze more.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you just know how to make my day
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spopt.pl optimized path for monkeywrench.mid (hard)

File: monkeywrench.mid
Solution Path: 3-2-2
Estimated Base score 88055
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 349370
Estimated SP Score 39890
Estimated Total Score 389260
Activations:
From meas 58.4453 (YO sust) to meas 64.5000 (RY note) Score: 18042 ((89.0 + 1.2) * 200 )
From meas 112.6250 (GR note) to meas 117.2500 (RB note) Score: 13800 ((69.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 165.7500 (G note) to meas 169.7500 (YB note) Score: 8048 ((39.0 + 1.2) * 200 )
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally.

7 star-ed it.

only just.
387,498

No idea how you can get higher.
i guess it's squeezing.

still can't do that......
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: spopt2.pl results Reply with quote

spopt2.pl results for "Monkey Wrench" (gh2-ps2/hard) generated on 07/20/2007

lazy-whammy (387714) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (388314) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (389254) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (389454) PNG TXT
upper-bound (389462) PNG TXT

KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying

big-squeeze path details
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File: monkeywrench.mid
Solution Path: 3-2-2
Estimated Base score 88012
Estimated 4* cutoff 176024
Estimated 5* cutoff 246433
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 349370
Estimated SP Score 39884
Estimated Total Score 389254
Activations:
#1 From meas 58.4531 (YO sust) to meas 64.5000 (RY note) ( 58.4531- 64.4531) Score: 18036 (89.0+ 1.2)*200
#2 From meas 112.6250 (GR note) to meas 117.2500 (RB note) (112.6240-117.2217) Score: 13800 (69.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 165.7500 (G note) to meas 169.7500 (YB note) (165.7490-169.7490) Score: 8048 (39.0+ 1.2)*200

nearly-ideal path details
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File: monkeywrench.mid
Solution Path: 3-2-2
Estimated Base score 88012
Estimated 4* cutoff 176024
Estimated 5* cutoff 246433
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 349370
Estimated SP Score 40084
Estimated Total Score 389454
Activations:
#1 From meas 58.4531 (YO sust) to meas 64.5000 (RY note) ( 58.4531- 64.4531) Score: 18036 (89.0+ 1.2)*200
#2 From meas 112.6250 (GR note) to meas 117.3750 (G note) (112.6276-117.3281) Score: 14000 (70.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 165.7500 (G note) to meas 169.7500 (YB note) (165.7490-169.7490) Score: 8048 (39.0+ 1.2)*200

upper-bound path details
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File: monkeywrench.mid
Solution Path: 3-2-2
Estimated Base score 88012
Estimated 4* cutoff 176024
Estimated 5* cutoff 246433
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 349370
Estimated SP Score 40092
Estimated Total Score 389462
Activations:
#1 From meas 58.4406 (YO sust) to meas 64.5000 (RY note) ( 58.4406- 64.4406) Score: 18044 (89.0+ 1.2)*200
#2 From meas 112.6250 (GR note) to meas 117.3750 (G note) (112.6240-117.3506) Score: 14000 (70.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 165.7500 (G note) to meas 169.7500 (YB note) (165.7490-169.7490) Score: 8048 (39.0+ 1.2)*200

Please post any bugs/questions about these auto-generated paths HERE.
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