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**mac081793** · Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 2643 Location: Pomona, CA

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**soundgarden** · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 247 Location: Madison, WI

I'm a Christian. I believe that somehow God created the world, whether in a week or in periods represented by days I don't know (SHIT! I did NOT mean to basically quote Mike Huckabee there!) because I haven't researched scientific evidence for either side enough. The Big Bang, with my very limited knowledge, makes sense to me and "what caused the Big Bang?" is one of the reasons I think the existence of a higher power is highly probable.
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**Kingofterrors** · Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 1993 Location: Odenton, MD

I would considering myself an Athiest, but at the same time i'm not convinced of Evolution.

I have read the bible, i have read the book of mormon, i have dabbled in a few others.

Blind faith makes 100% no sense to me. The bibles is just as rediculous as scientology to me ( no offense, my opinion nobody elses )

Seems like i could write a book full of ridiculous events bury it and eventually somebody would find it and make a religion.... now that is obviously half joking, but i'm somewhat serious.
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**tornintwo** · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 1524 Location: Vancouver, B.C.

This is the main thing bugging me about the story of Creationism and if anyone can find an answer, please share

Creation: God created the heavens and the earth. Then God created man in his own image. Eve was created from Adam's rib so eh would have companionship. Adam and Eve had 2 sons, Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel and runs away from God. The bible never mentions any other children or people created by God. Then this line appears and I quote:

**crunchydedpirate** · Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 81

I'm going to have to pull the ol' "eye/Optic nerve" card here; both are separate organs and neither work without the other, but both have developed and work together.
One other thing, I'm not sure, but a species that has evolved even a little will probably most likely not be able to breed with it's less evolved self, so that does limit reproduction of an evolving species. Just my thoughts

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**Weenerskank** · Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Saint Louis Mo.

if "Evolution" is real then i have one simple question.

Why dont monkeys turn into humans now?
They are born as monkeys, and they die as monkeys

Want to know why?

BECAUSE EVOLUTION ISNT TRUE.
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**dreamaddict** · Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 844 Location: Renton, WA

Oh yay! Time for me to weigh in on a fun, controversial topic with my strange, nondualistic point of view!

Creation? Evolution? I say...they are BOTH true at the same time!

Example:

You and a friend see a finely handmade piece of pottery, fantastic designs and glaze and it looks beautiful.

You ask, "Who made the pot? What inspired them to make it? Why did they choose to make it like this? What could be in their heart and mind?" You would be like a creationist/religious worshipper.

Your friend asks, "How did that guy make that pot? What kind of clay did he use? How did he figure out the proper mix of clays? How long did he fire it? What kind of oven? How did he get the glaze to be so even?" Your friend would be more like a darwinist/scientist.

Here's my viewpoint that reconciles both ends:

It could be that God "created" life by laying down the architecture for our universe (the physical laws, behavior of matter and energy, gravity, etc.) and just letting it run, knowing in His infinite wisdom that life would eventually be created, given enough time and change. That God knew that we would eventually exist from the moment he created the universe. Perhaps...the theory of evolution is merely the "How?" of the creation of life, examining God's creation to find out how everything came to be. And creationism is more concerned with the "Why?", the heart and mind of God. And evolution was God's method of creating. And actually both of the ideas are two sides of one concept/thought/reality.

tl;dr CHRISCHUNS R STUPID LOL THA BIBLE IZ FAKE ROFLZ>
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**Matt** · Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 3780 Location: Bethel, Vermont

**psuzeppelin5** · Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 2211 Location: Philadelphia, PA

OK, I'm Christian, so I believe in creationism, if you're an atheist, you believe in evolution (most likely). So this thread is pretty much are you Christian or not.
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**Weenerskank** · Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Saint Louis Mo.

if monkeys are doing fine as monkeys then why arent we still monkeys?

No one can answer my question so evolution is not real.
i also never said anything about humans with wings, so i dont know how that links to ANYTHING.
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**Matt** · Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 3780 Location: Bethel, Vermont

Although I agree with your beliefs, I feel inclined to point out the flaws of your arguments.

Under the idea of evoution, we did not evolve from monkeys. Rather, we both share a common ancestor. We both evolved from the same ancient creatures, but because of different circumstances, we evolved differently.

And just because no one knows the answers to your question does not equate to it being false. If you read up on your Bible, no one knows when the rapture will happen; this does not mean that it won't.
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**psuzeppelin5** · Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 2211 Location: Philadelphia, PA

I have to butt in, if we came from monkeys, why are there still tons of monkeys?
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