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JCirri  





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Cross-Platform Rankings are up! Reply with quote

Ever since the launch of GH2 for the 360, the single most requested feature has been for the ability to compare your scores globally across all platforms. As request threads kept coming in, our only response has been SOON™. After many months of planning, designing, redesigning, and implementing, I'm happy to announce this functionality is now available for you at ScoreHero.

I've tried to keep the interfaces very simple and intuitive, hiding nearly all the complexity that is involved. But there are several things that require explanation:

First, you may be wondering how the system deals with songs that differ across platforms (due to star power differences, note chart differences, and/or game engine differences) which is something we've pondered for a long time. After considering many options ranging from excluding every song that differed by any amount at all, to including all shared songs and not worrying that some ranks are unfair. I was not a fan of either of those extremes, and as a compromise, have decided to use our knowledge of upper-bound scores (thanks to debr's amazing work) to calculate "adjusted scores" strictly for the purpose of generating combined ranks. This method results in fair ranks, while every shared song still contributes to the overall totals.


For those who care, the simple formula is as follows:
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adjusted_score = (score / platform_upperbound) * overall_upperbound

So if the platform_upperbound (upper-bound for the score's platform) is the highest upper-bound across all platforms (overall_upperbound), then the adjusted_score would be the same as the score. Otherwise, it gets scaled accordingly based on the percent you've obtained of your platform's upper-bound.


The system isn't perfect, as it depends on the upper-bound values being accurate which is not always the case. We will continually update our data as proven otherwise (i.e. top scores beating the upper-bounds, or revisions in the upper-bound calculating software).

However, even though adjusted scores are used for combined ranks, the primary focus of score-tracking is, and will always be on actual scores that were obtained on the specific platform you played - we don't want to reinvent things. Therefore, the adjusted scores are not shown on any page except for Rankings (only because it wouldn't make sense to see a lower actual score with a higher rank). And even there, a column still exists for the actual scores with the usual picture/video proof links.

One thing I still want to add is the ability to compare different platforms against one another on Compare Users (i.e. compare your GH3-Wii scores against your friend's GH3-360 scores). Right now you can only compare your combined bests all at once by selecting "All" platforms.

Most everything else is self-explanatory - just click around and you'll see how things work.

Also, like all major upgrades bugs are inevitable. So if you notice anything wrong or strange, please report any issues in Bug Reports.

Enjoy, and let me know what you think.
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adzicents  





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES! THANKS SOOO MUCH JCIRRI!

You and the staff of ScoreHero are beasts!
Thanks so much for finally getting this out of the way.

So what's next, eh?

EDIT: Toymachine, apparently EVERYONE is first on Sunday Morning...

EDITII: That's actually happened for a few songs.
Also, when I check my scores through the manage scores page, I have a global tier ranking, but I don't have a platform global ranking?
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toymachine  





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes awesome finally I can compare my scores to my friend that has PS2

just wondering about this though

http://www.scorehero.com/compare.php?user=78757&user2=4920&group=4&game=0&diff=4

according to this I am 1st on Sunday Morning- is this a glitch?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet! I've been waiting for this. Thanks for all the hard work!
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Kane40  





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to the staff for this
Maybe a dynamic image for overall ranking coming next ?

@toymachine : The glitch is also present on the song scoring
=> http://www.scorehero.com/rankings.php?group=4&game=0&diff=4&song=1267&page=1&highlight=1
The "1st" has a lower score than the "2nd"
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing!
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Miwco  





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool!
Great work.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sick! I will finally have more competition than the 130 people in PC Medium.
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Schmole  





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holy crap i cant thank you enough!

great work - incredibly useful feature
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It appears I am ranked 1500 spots lower overall
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kudos, JC. Another great step in the advancement of ScoreHero. You must have a bunch of those magic 8-balls lying around.
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LordMathias  





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, good work JCirri et al.

Also, lolwut at me being in the top 50 overall on Hard >.>
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TheMagician  





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta love this. Makes you want to improve your scores even more.

This song is missing the "adjusted" thing, my score would be 288,512 and not 288,508.

http://www.scorehero.com/rankings.php?group=4&game=0&diff=3&song=1151
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good jobs mods this is ace
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Simpson  





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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love it! Thanks for putting it together! Gives me much more motivation to try for higher scores.
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