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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: HellAshes Technique FAQ Reply with quote

Rock Band Technique FAQ

Since people drop me at least 5 PMs a day asking for technique advice, I've decided to make a topic for people to ask me for technique help. All the most frequently asked questions will be answered in this post. If there are any fingering questions, tapping questions not covered in k3v's thread, or anything else, feel free to ask here.

Note: Do NOT ask anything besides technique questions. Examples would be "Why don't you play GHIII?", "Do you play real guitar?", ect. If you have those type of questions, then drop me a PM.

Page 1:
Strumming endurance
Institutionalized fingering - Verse 3d and 3e
Ascending scales practice

Page 2:
Zig-zag practice

Page 3:
"2 Finger Slide" ascending scale practice for songs like Bad Reputation and Push Push Lady Lightning
Hangar 18 Fingering - Solo 7
Strum Counting
Raining Blood Fingering - Mosh 1 and Flood
Warm-ups

Page 4:
Freebird Fingering - Solo J and Solo C
Jordan Fingering - Solo B

Page 5:
Play With Me Fingering - Solo C through Chorus 3
Detonation Fingering - Solo 1c
Alternation Strum, Whammy, Select SP technique

Page 6:
Nothing For Me Here Technique
Through the Fire and the Flames Fingering - Bridge I and What the!?
Six Technique
Freebird 5* Help
Beast and the Harlot 460k Help

Page 7:
Cheat on the Church Fingering - Solo 2 and Solo 3
Black Widow of La Porte Fingering - "Ow" Section

Page 8:
Raining Blood Verse 1 Help
3 Note Chord Practice
Jordan Fingering - Guitar Break
Through the Fire and the Flames Fingering - Post Insanity 1 and 2
Eruption Fingering - Ready Set Go! and Fast Picking with Trills
Hanger 18 Fingering - Solo 9
Salieri Strikes Back Fingering - Crazy Zig-Zags

Page 9:
Six Techniques
Tapping Techniques
Gloves FAQ
2 Finger FAQ

Page 10:
Detonation Fingering - Solo 1b
Link to Optimal SP Path Site
Raining Blood 5* Help
Jordan Solo F Fingering
Stop Solo Fingering
Institutionalized Fingering - Verse 3D
Through the Fire and the Flames Help

Page 11:
Gemini Bridge Technique
Hangar 18 Fingering - Solo 4b
The Devil Went Down to Georgia Fingering - Solo K
Other TDWDTG Help
Search and Destroy Fingering - Solo 2g

Page 12:
Beginner Squeezing Help
Fall of Pangea Fingering - Solo 1d
Six Fingering - End Solo
Though the Fire and the Flames Bridge II Help
The Devil Went Down to Georgia Passing Help
Through the Fire and the Flames Fingering - Lot's of sections.

Page 13:
Transitioning from GHII to GHIII or vise versa.
John the Fisherman Fingering - Bridge 1c
Warming-Up

Page 14:
You Really Got me Fingering - End Wankery
Strumming Endurance FAQ
Institutionalized Verse 1C Help
Tips on Transitioning between Hyperspeeds
Because It's Midnite Solo C FAQ
Beast and the Harlot Solo D FAQ

Page 16:
Ascending Triplets FAQ
Nothing For Me Here Fingering - Solo 3
The Way It Ends Fingering - Shredding Solo Part 2
Slash Battle - He's Alive!? FAQ
Ain't Nothing But A Good Time Fingering - Solo D
Bad Reputation Fingering - Solo 2D
One - Darkness Riff FAQ
Through the Fire and the Flames Hard Fingering - Herman's Solo and Twin Solo
The Devil Went Down to Georgia - Solo K FAQ
Misirlou - Intro FAQ
BatH Chorus FAQ
We Three Kings Fingering - Verse 2A
Nothing For Me Here FAQ
FCPREMIX FAQ
Tips to Being a Top Player
Steady Quick Strumming FAQ
Gloves FAQ
Through the Fire and the Flames Fingering - Twin Solo 16th Triplet Sections

Page 17:
Tapping When Standing Up FAQ
Salieri Strikes Back FAQ
Rude Mood FAQ
Cliffs of Dover Chorus FAQ

Page 19:
Beast and the Harlot solo D Fingering
Through the Fire and the Flames Blackest Wave Fingering FAQ
Salieri Strikes Back Fingering FAQ
Through the Fire and the Flames 4th SP Help
Strumming FAQ
Because It's Midnite Solo C Fingering FAQ
My "Weight" Gloves FAQ
The Devil Went Down to Georgia Devil Solo B Fingering
Beast and the Harlot Solo D Strumming
Arterial Black Solo A+B Fingering
The Devil Went Down to Georgia Chorus 2 FAQ
Be a Top Player FAQ
Custom Syncing Help

Page 20:
Through the Fire and the Flames Fingering Help
Optimal Whammy FAQ
Beast and the Harlot Solo D Help
My Technique of Tapping Fast Trills Without Elbow Strumming
Freebird Solo I Without the Use of Your Ring Finger


Index:
Jordan Passing
Jordan
Through the Fire and the Flames
Institutionalized
Hangar 18
Raining Blood
Play With Me
Detonation

Key:
*Strumming and HOPOs Here* h=HO/PO u=upstrum d=downstrum

*Frets are here*

*Fingering is here* 1=index 2=middle 3=ring 4=pinky Red numbers mean tapping.

Example:
dududududuhhhh

11112233441112
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Jordan Passing

Make sure you have a full meter of SP. It's kind of hard to pass the song without it. Try to learn solo A the best you can because if you do well in it, you'll have a full rock meter going into B. For solo B, think of it as a lot of really fast trills. Use only you index and middle fingers, and slide up and down the neck. Make sure you're strumming slower than you fretting or you'll have a lot of unnecessary strums, which hurt your rock meter. If you can make it to the little break in solo B without SP, you're probably in the clear from there when you use SP. Take Solo C into practice mode, so you know what you're up against instead of just seeing random notes. The end of solo C is ascending notes, which are pretty easy to hammer-on if you're fast enough. When you reach the long blue note at the end of solo C, don't freak out, or you might end up failing if you're in blinking red.
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Jordan

Solo C Part 1


2321123123211231232123112321123123211231232123123


Solo C Part 2


112221121212123123123123211234 4321123231234321112312321112343


Solo C Part 3


23 12121212 2121222222222211121234321432143211212


Solo C Part 4

One handed


123123412312341231232111231234123123412312321112341212112122212122212 3

OR


123112312311231231232111231123123112312312321112341212112122212122212 3


This is my tapping technique. (Which I currently use.)


123121221223123123121321121212212231231231213212341212112122212122212 3


Solo F


123123123112343211432111432111212123412312321121212131432111234112323211123411233333323121211123

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Through the Fire and the Flames

Intro


2131211111213121311121113111312111213111112131213111211131113121


Bridge 1 - I've never made a tapping technique for the end of Bridge one, but I have made one for the middle trill.


2121211212121212 1 1211233


What the!?


43212121212212121212122122112112121

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Institutionalized

Verse 3d

One hand:

1241241241241241241341341341344

Tapping:

1131131131131131131121121121124

Hand over the fretboard:

3213213213213213214214214214211 Then hit yellow with the middle finger quick, and drop the hold to flip your hand back over.

Tapping Method 2:

1221221221221221221321321321323


Verse 3e


11 2 3 4 334 3232123 121121211211211213

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Hangar 18

Solo 5 - Top is strumming and HO/POs, bottom is fingering. u=upstrum, d=downstrum, h=HO/PO

dududududuhhduduhhduduhhduduhhduduhhduduhhdududud u d u d u d u d duduhhhhduhhduhhduh hhh

3333223333213333213333213333213333213333211111113 3 3 4433432111123232113 213


Solo 6

Skipping the 1st 2 measures.


4 3 2 1 3 4 3 2 1 1212121212321321123213214


Solo 7


321313213132131321313213132131321313213112311213 11213123 1232 1232 4


Solo 9 - Top is strumming and HO/POs, bottom is fingering. u=upstrum, d=downstrum, h=HO/PO

d h dududududh h dududududh h dududududh h dududududh h dududududh h dududududh h dududud dudududududu

3 2 3332221113 2 3332221113 2 3332221113 2 3332221113 2 3332221113 2 3332221113 2 3332222 111111222333

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Raining Blood

Mosh 1

There are 2 possible ways I see to do Mosh 1.


43214321

OR


43213211


Flood!

The way I do Flood! is much different than what other people do, since I believe other people elbow strum it. Here's my fingering. (Note: My old Flood! video, has a completely different fingering than what I used most recently, which is like 3-4 months ago.)


21212112343211212121213


2121212121211


12121212121212111234 3211 3


212121213


1212121212121212121212121


121212121

Skipping all the way up passed the slow trill.


13 121212121 21 23 121212121 21


121212121212121211

It's very difficult to pull this off, since your right hand needs to be dead on in a split second back and forth from strumming to tapping.

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Play With Me

I'll stick with the solo C-F and Choruses since they're really the only "Fail" spots.

Solo C


212312321321212312321321211212421211211313431311


Solo D - Skippin the easy harmonic bends. Strumming on top of freticons, and fingers on the bottom. d=downstrum, u=upstrum, h=HO/PO

dhhhdudududud

1232111133221

dhdududuhh

1233112211


Solo E


1123211123211


1123211123211


1124211124211


123432123432


Solo F


1123123211123213213213214321432132121


Chorus 5a


4321234321123212321232123211232123213212


Chorus 5b


12321123432112321123212321232112343214321321


Chorus 5c


43214321432143214321432143214321321432143211

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Detonation

Solo 1b

dhhhhhhhhdududuhhhduhhduhhduhhdudududhhhhduhduhhhduhhhhhh

123123123112233112111211212211113312212121121112111212123


Solo 1c

dudhhhhdudhhhduduhhhdhhhh

3332121333212333321123213

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhd

11123211123432114

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome FAQ, I could use this one for Jordan, seeing as I just forgot how to pass it now for some reason >_>

And the TTFAF intro will be a lot of help, now I won't be using strictly my right middle and index fingers to tap and I can help out my ring finger on that blue one. Thanks =D

I've got a question though; How do you build up skill for ascending scales/triplets? I can hit the slower ones, but the quick ones in Solo C destroy my combo/make me fail.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...I think I'll use this :P
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice topic. I remember you saying in a previous post that you have great strumming endurance, are there any good ways you know of to build it up?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awsome could use this for jordan maybe i can get more than 70% of solo c lawl
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is a good FAQ thingy

the solo c stuff is very helpful to me

(before I refreshed this there wasn't as much of the ttfaf intro charted as now)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THFS wrote:
Nice topic. I remember you saying in a previous post that you have great strumming endurance, are there any good ways you know of to build it up?

Strumming endurance is built up just from practicing songs with long fast strumming sections. Try playing Six, TWIE, Misirlou, and other fast picking songs very often, and overtime, your strumming hand will build up endurance.

KloK wrote:
this is a good FAQ thingy

the solo c stuff is very helpful to me

(before I refreshed this there wasn't as much of the ttfaf intro charted as now)

I pressed submit instead of preview post. :P
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can u sell me your fingers ?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for starting this, it seems like a really good idea. verse 3 of institutionalized has been beating my ass. preciate any help
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ductape wrote:
can u sell me your fingers ?

No.

Next question?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I edited one in my post, you probably read it before I did though lol. But here it is:

I've got a question though; How do you build up skill for ascending scales/triplets? I can hit the slower ones, but the quick ones in Solo C destroy my combo/make me fail.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can u sell me your cat? hes epic at gh=D
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a wierd way to do TTFAF. Tapping every note except green seems a little unessacery. But still you're the pro (and you do LOVE your tapping )
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhinojosa wrote:
thanks for starting this, it seems like a really good idea. verse 3 of institutionalized has been beating my ass. preciate any help

I take it you can do verse 3a-3c, since they are relatively simple. For verse 3d, play everything in the fingering, meaning your index is on the , except for the . which you swap to your pinky on the orange, and swap back to fingering.

For verse 3e, there are plenty of ways to play it.

One hand:

1241241241241241241341341341344

Tapping:

1131131131131131131121121121124

Hand over the fretboard:

3213213213213213214214214214211 Then hit yellow with the middle finger quick, and drop the hold to flip your hand back over.

Tapping Method 2:

1221221221221221221321321321323

For verse 3e, I'll show you my fingering.

11 2 3 4 334 3232123 121121211211211213

directshot999 wrote:
I edited one in my post, you probably read it before I did though lol. But here it is:

I've got a question though; How do you build up skill for ascending scales/triplets? I can hit the slower ones, but the quick ones in Solo C destroy my combo/make me fail.

LTMR is a good start for keeping equal rhythm. For really fast sections, it's good to anchor the lowest note. Ex: repeating, hold down red and hit yellow and blue.

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No! My kitty! I taught it myself.....
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HellAshes wrote:
Hand over the fretboard:

3213213213213213214214214214211 Then hit yellow with the middle finger quick, and drop the hold to flip your hand back over.

For verse 3e, I'll show you my fingering.

11 2 3 4 334 3232123 121121211211211213

thanks, that actually helped alot. the 3e is infinitely easier than what i was trying to do.
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