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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Strategy Guide --- Beyond 100%; Maximizing Your Score Reply with quote

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Beyond 100%; Maximizing Your Score In Guitar Hero

Edited Feb. 18, 2007, with new information

I. Introduction
II. Creating star paths
IIa. Path creation example
III. Activating/squeezing
IV. Whammying
V. Hold points

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I. Introduction
We've all had it happen; you finally full combo a song, rush to enter your scores on scorehero, and feel a sudden surge of disappointment when your score is 10,000 away from the top score (or more). This strategy guide is written to address that problem.

I will discuss several techniques for maximizing your score. These techniques work on any song, and any difficulty level. Note that I'm not discussing any techniques for actually hitting all the notes; it's assumed for our purposes here that you are capable of hitting all the notes in the song you are working on. (These techniques also work for songs that you can't full combo, but in some cases activation points would need to be moved to account for the missed notes.)
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II. Creating star paths
Finding the optimum star path can really help you maximize your score. Here are a few tips to help:

Don't trust star paths posted online!
Many people (including me) post star paths online. But usually they are not the true optimal path. They can also prejudice you in a certain way if you look at them before trying it yourself. I usually try to work out a path myself first, then I will look in the forums to see how my path compares with other people's paths, and I may possibly tweak my path if it appears that another path is better.

Figure out the best path 'on paper' first.
Most people attempt to find the best path by simple trial and error, but in 90% of the cases you can find the best path by simply looking at the chart and counting notes (although you may have to tweak it a bit once you actually play it). You will save a lot of time by spending 5 minutes with the chart, rather than playing through 20 different paths.

Beware of activations at the beginning of the song
In some songs, it is possible to activate star power before your score meter in all the way to 4x. Usually, it is best to avoid doing this (although it is required in some cases).

Be wary of the time signature
Star power activation is calculated per measure, not per beat. So, if you have a full bar of star power, this is worth 8 measures, regardless of how long the measures are. In some songs (Trogdor, Tatooed Love Boys, Them Bones, etc.) knowing this is extremely important.

The optimal path on each difficulty will change
Frequently, the optimal path on a given difficulty will be similar to the optimal path on other difficulties. However, in some cases the optimal path will be entirely different. Don't be prejudiced by the path on one difficulty when choosing a path for another difficulty.

How to count notes
When figuring out the best path, there is no need to remember how many points each note is worth; simply count each single note as 1 point, and each chord as 2 (or 3) points. Also remember to count held notes, 1/2 point per beat (or 1 point per beat for 2 note chords, and 1 1/2 points per beat for 3 note chords). NOTE: The only time this won't work is for activation at the beginning of the song, before your score meter reaches 4x.

How to count SP durations
Most people are aware that each star power (without held notes) gives you 2 measures of activation time. But what about adding in those held notes? Here's a important tip that saved me a ton of time once I figured it out: Each beat of a held note is (appoximately) equal to one extra beat of activation time. So, for example, if you have 3 star powers, and 3 beats of held notes, you have approximately 6 measures + 3 beats of activation time to use. Note that actually, you have a little bit MORE than that, since 7.5 beats of whammy = 8 beats of activation, but that will get you a good estimate. NOTE: This tip only works in 4/4 time!!! This is because in 4/4 time there are 8 beats in 2 measures; for other time signatures this tip will not work!
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IIa. Path creation example
In this section, I'll work through the process of creating a good SP path step by step, using an example chart (Parasite Expert).

Step 1 - Get the note chart
For reference, the Parasite note chart is here. I find it helpful to print the chart out, so I can scribble on it and have easy access to it while I'm playing.

Step 2 - Find and mark all the star powers
See sample here
I usually circle and number them to make sure I don't skip any.

Step 3 - Figure out how many measures each star power is worth.
See sample here
This is an important step that many people would skip. Figure out how many measures (or fractional parts of a measure) each star power is worth. In the example, I have noted this number in parentheses. IMPORTANT: At this point, this number is just an estimate. For help in figuring out how to get this number, see the 'How to count SP durations' section above, or refer to the scoring FAQ.

Step 4 - Create an approximate path
See sample here
In this step, you will lay down an approximate path, based on looking at the note chart and counting notes. Here's how we would work through Parasite:

SP 1, 2, & 3 --- Here we have a bit of a puzzle. We definitely want to group SP's 1, 2, and 3 together, since we can get an activation on SP 4 all by itself, and barely have enough to time to use it before SP 5. So, we could skip SP 3 altogether, leaving us with 4 measures of activation. However, note that if we wait until AFTER the two whammy notes in SP 3, we have an additional 2 beats of activation time.

SP 4 --- An activation all by itself, and we have just enough time to use it before the next SP.

SP 5 --- We have exactly 4 measures to use here (since the whammy lasted for exactly 7.5 beats), so we should be able to pull off a squeeze for some extra points.

SP 6 & 7 --- We'll get the max points by activating right away, so that we get all the chords under SP.

SP 8 & 9 --- We'll want to activate 5 measures later, to get all the chords under SP.

SP 10 & 11 --- There are lots of notes right after this, and finding the exact placement for SP will be tricky. The best thing to do here is simply figure out how much SP we have (here it's 4 3/4 measures) and make a few guesses on paper, then add up the point totals to see which one works out the best.

Step 5 - Play through the song and make final tweaks
See sample here
In this step, we'll play through the song and try out our star power path. Our approximations may have been off a bit, and we'll need to figure out exactly where notes can be squeezed.

Note that we can complete the first 4 steps without playing the song at all! By the time we get to playing the actual song, we're just making some final adjustments to get things just right.
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III. Activating/squeezing
This section is about activating star power at the correct time. This is extremely important to maximize your score.

Tilt or select?
To activate star power, you may either tilt the guitar (the 'normal' way), or press the select button. I find that activation using the select button gives me a much better control over the exact timing, so I always use the select button to activate star power. However, many good players use tilt exclusively and can still get good results. I would suggest that everyone try both methods and use whichever method seems to work the best.

Hand placement (assuming you want to use the select button to activate SP)
Many people use the side of their palm to activate the select button. I, however, prefer to use my pinky. To practice, put your hand in its normal strumming position, then rotate your wrist to be slightly more vertical. Now stretch out your pinky until you can reach the select button. You should be able to keep both your thumb and first finger on the strum bar, and still reach the select button. This is important for activating in fast passages.

I keep my hand in a normal strum position until right before an activation, then I begin to rotate my wrist so that I can have my pinky over the select button at the right time. It takes some practice, but it's not too hard once you get the hang of it.

What is squeezing?
This question gets asked over and over on the forums; the simple answer is that squeezing is starting a star power activation slightly late, and playing the last note or two of your activation slightly early, so that they are included in your star power section, and thus get you more points.

How to squeeze
First, remember to activate the select button very, very slightly before the first note, but not at the exact same time. You should hit the select button, then immediately strum the note, in one fluid motion. And remember, do this slightly after the note. At the end of the activation, simply strum the last note slightly ahead of the beat. The timing window on GH is huge, so usually you can push this a lot more than you think.

How do I know if I got the squeeze?
It's sometimes hard to judge if you activated a squeeze correctly, especially at the end. Watch the last note carefully, and see if the color changes back to its normal color just before you strum. Another technique you can use is to pause your game (assuming there is a rest in the music!), and write down your score, to see how it compares with other times through the same passage.

Advanced technique
Once you get good at squeezing, you can really push your squeeze to the very edge of the timing window. In some cases in fast passages, it is actually possible to squeeze in an extra note (or more) beyond what you could normally squeeze.

For practice
Yes We Can - Yes, I know how everyone feels about this song But it is great for practicing your squeeze technique --- there are no whammies, so each activation is an exact number of measures, and the tempo is slow which makes it easier.
Mr. Fix-It - The first squeeze in this song is arguably the most straightforward squeeze in any song on expert. Start the first activation on the GY chord after getting a half bar, then hit the identical GY chord 4 measures later slightly early to get it under SP.
Any song on Easy - I highly recommend trying this out on an Easy difficulty first, until you have the basic technique. Squeezing is much easier when you don't also have to worry about hitting all the notes.
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IV. Whammying
Learning to correctly use the whammy bar is essential for maximizing your score.

Hand placement
When using the whammy bar, always use your fingertips only; don't take your thumb off the strum bar!! If you strum the note, then quickly move your whole hand down to whammy, inevitably you'll miss a bit of star power. If you are doing alternate strumming, you'll need both your thumb and first finger on the strum bar, so use your remaining fingers to whammy.

How fast should I whammy?
It has been discussed over and over on the forums, but I'll reiterate it here. It does not matter how fast you whammy; your star power meter goes up at the same rate regardless. I usually do a very slow whammy, since it's easier to keep your hand in position if you're not flailing about wildly.

How to whammy multiple held notes in a row
Whammying can get tricky when there are multiple held notes in a row; this is where hand placement is especially important, since you need to keep whammying and strumming at the same time. Here's a handy tip: you can stay 'in the blue' when whammying for a few moments after you stop whammying. So in sections with fast held star power notes, you can simply hit the whammy bar in the same rhythm with your strums.

Beginning your whammy early
To get full points from your whammy, you need to strum the beginning just a bit ahead of the beat. You should strum the note slightly early, then immediately begin to whammy. It's pretty well known that using this technique will allow you to get a star power activation with only 7.5 beats of held notes. However, you should ALWAYS use this technique for your whammying to maximize the amount of notes you can get under SP. NOTE: In a few cases, the optimum path will require you to not whammy everything; in some cases you may need to whammy only part of a held note, or not at all.

For practice
More Than A Feeling - The classic song for practicing whammying to get an activation with only 7.5 beats of hold.
Hey You - Great for practicing whammying multiple held notes in a row.
Mother - You can get an activation from the very first SP (even though that's not necessarily the best path!). It's a pretty hard one to get, though. It happens early in the song, so it's good to practice multiple times.
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V. Hold points
If you've followed all the above techniques correctly, you can usually post a score that is within a few points of the highest score. But what about those last few points? Why does one person score 200,458 on a song, but another person might score 200,422, using the same path and activations?

The answer is in hold points. You need to maximize the amount of points you are getting from each held note. To do this, remember this little secret: you will NOT lose hold points for hitting a note late. No matter how late you hit a note (assuming you hit it within the timing window), you'll get the full amount of hold points for it. However, you will lose points for releasing a note early (or strumming another note before the hold is completely finished.) What does this mean for your score maximizing strategy?
Two things --
1. When you have several held notes in a row, don't strum them early. If you err, err on the side of hitting them slightly late.
2. When you activate star power on a held note, wait as long as possible to activate. You won't lose any points for doing this, and you might be able to add extra activation points at the end.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good FAQ, Malictus! Another great song to practice whammying on is Story of my Love. I find it a bit more tricky (and thus better for developing quick whammy skill) than the hold in More Than a Feeling.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very excellent FAQ. My one issue is that you stress so much over not using tilt activation to squeeze, but the #1 score on Parasite was done using tilt activation by Sakst82. There are probably some others that were tilt activation as well. While the select button is more reliable, tilting can work just as well for some people.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found myself switching to select activation when I can, but in songs like Tattooed Love Boys, and Beast and the Harlot, I really don't have an option but to tilt - select is an istant combo breaker for me in those songs...

Nice FAQ though - this will help a lot of people who are willing to put in the time and effort to practice these advanced techniques!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres one thing thats a bit misleading whcih si when people say that SP gain stays active for a few seconds after you release the whammy, and thats not uniformly the case. As far as i can tell by watching the hold turn blue (and ive read others who describe a similar determination), you are gaining SP as long as the whammy 'pulse' is moving up the held note, and when it reaches the end of the note (or the top of the screen) then you stop gaining star power. So for long notes, yeah this is a second or two, but for short notes or towards the end of a long note (when the amount of note remaining is effectively short) the pulse can run out much faster (because it has a lot shorter distance ot travel). Which is why you always want to whammy right up until the end of the hold (or past it to be safe), and also why for short notes, just hitting at the start of the hold might not get you all of the SP out of those notes. What i try to do for sequences of a lot of shortish SP holds is to hit the whammy down right away liek you say, but then release it a bit later (since you get a pulse for up and down both), rather than just doign a quick hit and release at the start. Granted im not very good at the actual execution of this yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great FAQ, malictus. I second the reliability of using 'select' for star power activations, yet, of course there are exceptions to the rule in faster passage on Expert. However, for most SP activations, this will get you the most consistent accuracy.

One thing that would really make this FAQ outstanding, malictus. I might suggest laying out a sample note chart or two, and outline all the steps you take in constructing a (near-)optimal star power strategy: perhaps a note chart on Medium and a note chart on Expert, where the paths differ. Talk about the trial-and-error that goes into it, what patterns to look for in songs, when it's necessary to play over SP phrases, counting notes, etc. I have a feeling that'd be of great value to many players on this site. Keep up the good work!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a really nice FAQ, Malictus! I'll throw in my 2 cents.

I have a top score or two and I am a tilter! I guess after lots of practice with it I feel pretty reliable with it. Just recently though I started testing out just how early a note can be played to squeeze it in. I usually aim for the middle of the section ( between the 2 white lines - if the note is located on a line ) before the note, which is often about a note width away. You'll probably be surprised just how early and late you can play notes in this game.

When I'm trying for a high score and I need a squeeze to do it, I keep an eye on my score at a certain point in the song and compare it mentally each time I play the song. If there's a spot right after the 1st note of my SP activation where I can see the score, I use it so that I know if I got the first note or not. If I didn't include the note in the SP, I restart right away. Then I'll also have a point after the SP is over where I can compare my score to make sure I got the last note. Often I will use the next set of SP notes to see what my score is after I play those notes.

Also, there are spots when you can move an SP activation to a different set of notes, get the same number of notes but get more hold points. This is especially important on easy and medium as there are alot of sections with 4 notes/ measure leading up to a note with hold. There could be 30 notes in a row but you want to include the hold points in the activation for the extra 100 points. It could be the difference between a 1st or not.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great FAQ!!! Alot of my ???'s in one spot!!!

Good advice about making your own SP Paths. Though, one of my downfalls is to do my own, then compare...and say yes, the posted one is better. LOL Maybe I'll have to start doing runs with my SP Path, then try the posted one!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice FAQ. Main thing I learnt here was that you can use select to activate SP Who reads the manual anyway?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT HIDE THE CHILDREN:

If you need an optimal SP path but you are too lazy, PriestMLH and I generally make *cough*optimal*hack* paths. So look there...

except for Laid to Rest, that one is NOT optimal

and this topic wins
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

popemobile wrote:

except for Laid to Rest, that one is NOT optimal

and this topic wins


Not optimal you say?? Damn...I already have an FC vid for it...I was actually going to give you credit for it...now you'll just get credit for giving me a bogus path
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awww...there goes some of the basic techniques for my FAQ... shucks.

Great job! (just kidding about the shuckery)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and my madhouse path pope...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PriestMLH wrote:
popemobile wrote:

except for Laid to Rest, that one is NOT optimal

and this topic wins


Not optimal you say?? Damn...I already have an FC vid for it...I was actually going to give you credit for it...now you'll just get credit for giving me a bogus path


good thing I wouldn't deserve the credit anyways
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it's a good tutorial, but i disagree with the activation method. I am a tilter and i feel i have greater control over my SP when i tilt than when i press....and also when i try to press i miss a note or two even is i pinky it. The best way to use tilt is if you have a good idea how long the delay is on your SG for the SP to activate.
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