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JCirri

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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: |
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warlock7735


Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 854 Location: Here. Come find me.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: |
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I'm working on a path for this, right now I can confirm that the first activation should be 4 (damn I hate wasting whammy) and should be the 2nd to last single 8th note before the Y - (RYB) section starts. _________________
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strikebowler585


Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 1752 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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idk if this is optimal. I still can't decide if 3 or 4 is better for future activations. I wanted to have as little SP as possible before the 3/4 time signature part.
Path #1:
3 - sqeeze yellow note in measure 30.
2 - measure 60.
2 - measure 89-90 (depends on amount of whammy of SP phrases).
2 - immediately.
3 - measure 166 (G note after GY chord).
2 - immediately (whammy half of the last BO chord).
1 - measure 220.
Path #2:
4 - G note in measure 47.
2 - Immediately.
2 - Immediately.
3 - 1 beat before 2 Yellow notes in measure 151.
2 - measure 178.
2 - measure 220.
This should net you at least 625k, even if it's not optimal. Now, some of the phrases in the charts show that there are 8 beats of whammy on some of the SP phrases, but the actual chart only has about 6.5 beats of whammy. I think a 1 SP phrase activation is possible on the last activation. If not, just make it a 3 instead of 2 and 1 at the end.
This info has no proof. Someone can tweak this with exact calculations if they want.
based on this, I bet barbaloot can make an optimal path.
EDIT: Created a 2nd path. Idk which one is better. _________________
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warlock7735


Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 854 Location: Here. Come find me.
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Barbaloot 

Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 1583
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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The Way It Ends optimal path
I should point out that starting 1-2-2-2 (as marked on the chart) is better than starting 4-3 by only about half a note, and this assumes you whammy well and hit every squeeze. For many (if not most) players, starting 4-3 would be as good or better (and certainly less risky).
If you want to start 4-3, the first activation should start at the green note in measure 47, and the second activation should start at the beginning of measure 86 (so immediately). Both activations should end on a 3-chord squeeze.
In either case, the path should end with 2-2-2-2. I'm surprised none of the other paths in this thread end that way, because I thought it seemed pretty obvious that that was, erm...the way it ends. _________________
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Tapion013


Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 259 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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So 3-2 is not the best start? dammit!!!!
Edit, just did the calculations, it's also about a half note behind _________________
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freakshowexcess


Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 724 Location: Bushkill, PA
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Barbaloot wrote: | The Way It Ends optimal path
I should point out that starting 1-2-2-2 (as marked on the chart) is better than starting 4-3 by only about half a note, and this assumes you whammy well and hit every squeeze. For many (if not most) players, starting 4-3 would be as good or better (and certainly less risky).
If you want to start 4-3, the first activation should start at the green note in measure 47, and the second activation should start at the beginning of measure 86 (so immediately). Both activations should end on a 3-chord squeeze.
In either case, the path should end with 2-2-2-2. I'm surprised none of the other paths in this thread end that way, because I thought it seemed pretty obvious that that was, erm...the way it ends. |
Sweet. Now I have a path for when I fix my -1. Thanks. _________________
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batsmak


Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 853 Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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I was about to post my path...
I was using 1-3-3 insted of 1-2-2-2, but otherwise, I was right
Thanks for the path! _________________
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Barbaloot 

Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 1583
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Starting 1-3-3 and 4-3 are about the same (1-3-3 gets a tiny amount of ticks more, with good whammy and squeezing), and both are about half a note inferior to 1-2-2-2, which again assumes good whammying and squeezing.
The path I would use myself would be 4-3 because it is much simpler, and the likelyhood that I would hit every squeeze on the 1-2-2-2 path is very low. Also, if you look at the 1-2-2-2 path, there are two activations that must end right at the beginning of another star power phrase, so it is quite risky. Unless you are aiming for a hardcore squeeze score, I would recommend 4-3 (or 1-3-3) over the optimal path. _________________
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CholoDrew

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Ticapapel


Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 390 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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For Dualshock players who have trouble with this song...
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5616/thewayitendspathkf3.png
1st activation: try to get as many notes as possible under SP
(There's no problem if you miss it, but you know, better restart >_>)
2nd: active whenever you want, but I prefer to use in that "flying penises rain"
3rd: as soon as possible, restart if you overwrite next phrase
(A little tricky, don't lose it)
4th: Most people can't combo in measures 178 and 185, so need to change it, right?
5th: try to get FC this second solo, not too hard
Measures where activations end maybe a little off, but it should be something like that.
Some tips: use two fingers of your right hand (or just your right thumb) to right every note of verses/chorus/bridges. Ignore triple chords. Let your right hand back before SP phrases. If you lost any phrase, restart, there's no need to get tired. In Bridges, whenever comes a lot of yellows or blues, use the "lower buttons tricky" (not very fast).
I hope this help someone... _________________
Dualshock player
Fucking yes, I beat Six using the Dualshock! So happy XD Now I have beaten all songs using the Dualshock ^___^
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Ghero55


Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Grand Cane, Louisiana
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: Squeeze suckage |
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i suck at squezzing. anybody got any tips? |
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brooksycc7

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 194 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Squeeze suckage |
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Ghero55 wrote: | i suck at squezzing. anybody got any tips? |
Don't suck at "squezzing" and take these questions to a different thread. _________________
Just a guy looking for some live competition.... |
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fudrick


Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 2372 Location: Orlando, Florida
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:52 am Post subject: |
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I know that most people do their first activation on the in M47 and have it end on the in M55, but is it possible to squeeze in the right before the in M47? Because I've squeezed that really far and then squeezed the at the end and the sp went on for quite a while, however I haven't been able to squeeze the in. _________________
FC Goals: GH1 - 46 [43] | GH2 - 64 [63] | GH80's - 30 [29] | GH3 - 70 [68] | GHA - 41 [00] | GHWT - 85 [00] | GHM - 48 [10] | GHSH - 47 [00] | RB2 - 84 [02]
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Bj0rn

Joined: 31 Aug 2007 Posts: 522 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: |
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fudrick wrote: | I know that most people do their first activation on the in M47 and have it end on the in M55, but is it possible to squeeze in the right before the in M47? Because I've squeezed that really far and then squeezed the at the end and the sp went on for quite a while, however I haven't been able to squeeze the in. |
Technically, yes. But it's an 8th note double squeeze at 185 bpm. While those are possible at such as low a speed as 135 bpm, this is still VERY hard because of how difficult this song is to squeeze anyway. For reference, the PotR (8th note) double squeezes are at 195 bpm. That's 10 bpm faster (read: easier) than this squeeze. And like I said, at the pace TWIE is going at, it takes serious skills to pull off a good squeeze like this (80% squeeze or so).
When going for 1st place and the league win on this song, I didn't even bother about this squeeze. Still go it (the 1st and the league win, not the squeeze) _________________
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