Gemini

**JCirri** · Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 4576

**rabies** · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject:

You guys scoring near 170k on this song....care to share your basic SP path? Are you using 2-2-2-1-2-3? Something else?

**Barfo** · Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 2596

I'll post a full path after the League B closes for this week (sunday night). Math-wise it should be optimal, tho i haven't nailed the execution yet so im falling sort of 170k by a lot (i keep missing FC due to -1 or +1 note). But you are right its basically 2-2-2-1-2-3

**RiseOfAsh** · Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 683

Well, I'll put the path that I'm using at least, it netted up ~168k, so the execution just needs a little polish and it'll be perfect.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1264/geminimediumspdn9.png

Right now, I'm thinking it's *possibly* better to start the last one a measure later, if you can get it perfectly timed enough to catch the last chord without giving up early notes.

Also, I've been debating a 2 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 1 Path, since you can pull a half meter off of SP #8, and if you activate just just as SP #9 is starting, you end right before the last one (which you can barely get 50% off of for an extra activation, but it's tight whammying. I can only do it 1/4 times), but haven't tested to see if it'd do better, thought I doubt it.

**MetalMadness** · Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 1095

I use a 2,2,2,1,2,1,2 path with the 2nd "1" SP activation only getting the Y and B notes before the next SP. The last SP activation will already get you 7 and 1/4 meters with the 2 SPs. So if you save it until the end, your only gaining about 6 notes. If you use it to get the Y and B's, you get 5 notes plus alot of hold.
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**malictus** · Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 994 Location: Bloomington, IN

Hmm interesting; my new number 1 score (over 172,000) is different than all the patterns listed above. It is essentially 2 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 1. For SP 10, stop whammying after 4 beats; then for SP 11, activate as soon as you hit the last note. That should end just in time for SP 12, which is enough to give you another activation by itself.
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**MetalMadness** · Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 1095

Just tried your path and am over 172,000 also - good for 2nd.
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**Desmond** · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:03 am Post subject:

Us lowly league c players had this song this week. I didn't stumble upon this thread until just now, but I happened to be using the same pattern as you. However I wasn't ever able to hit all the notes, so I ended up about 5k below you guys. But it is nice to see that I have some ability to come up with winning SP patterns.
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**Cdw01** · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 923 Location: New York

173k FTW! Still didn't get 174k after playing for 3 straight hours, though, and it's definitely possible.

Took me forever to get all the squeezes in one run for whatever reason. There may be one left on the 2nd activation, I got close to it, but never quite got it. However, the descending 1/16 notes on the 4th sp right after the whammy makes getting the full whammy difficult, for me anyway.

**Slowhand** · Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 625 Location: Lombard, Illinois

Took the liberty of posting a chart with Mal's path which was similar to my first one except the last activations. I suck at getting all whamminess out of the sp's so no surprise I'm still 7K away on an FC.

Curious if these are good starting points for the activations. Once again this is just a guess at the start points, I only got about 166K on this song.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3664/geminiguitarmediumug7.jpg
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**debr5836** · Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 1159 Location: Fort Collins, CO

spopt.pl optimized path for gemini.mid (medium)

File: gemini.mid
Solution Path: 2-2-2-1-2-2-1
Estimated Base score 32132
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 125298
Estimated SP Score 48966
Estimated Total Score 174264
Activations:
From meas 24.1250 (R note) to meas 30.8750 (RY note) Score: 9000 ((44.0 + 1.0) * 200 )
From meas 42.9922 (G sust) to meas 48.6250 (R note) Score: 6907 ((31.0 + 3.5) * 200 )
From meas 56.3828 (G sust) to meas 60.8750 (R note) Score: 5750 ((25.0 + 3.8) * 200 )
From meas 73.2812 (G note) to meas 78.1434 (G sust) Score: 5017 ((23.0 + 2.1) * 200 )
From meas 87.0000 (R note) to meas 93.8750 (R note) Score: 9788 ((45.0 + 3.9) * 200 )
From meas 105.3750 (Y sust) to meas 110.6250 (R note) Score: 5732 ((22.0 + 6.7) * 200 ) (do not fully whammy)
From meas 113.0417 (Y note) to meas 117.5000 (Y note) Score: 6771 ((31.0 + 2.9) * 200 )

**debr5836** · Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 1159 Location: Fort Collins, CO

spopt2.pl results for "Gemini" (gh2-ps2/medium) generated on 07/20/2007

lazy-whammy (168050) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (173486) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (174278) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (174926) PNG TXT
upper-bound (175082) PNG TXT

KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying

big-squeeze path details
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File: gemini.mid
Solution Path: 2-2-2-1-2-1-S1-1
Estimated Base score 32096
Estimated 4* cutoff 64192
Estimated 5* cutoff 89868
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 125338
Estimated SP Score 48940
Estimated Total Score 174278
Activations:
#1 From meas 24.1250 (R note) to meas 30.8750 (RY note) ( 24.1427- 30.8760) Score: 9000 (44.0+ 1.0)*200
#2 From meas 43.0000 (R note) to meas 48.6250 (R note) ( 43.0438- 48.5771) Score: 6904 (31.0+ 3.5)*200
#3 From meas 56.4002 (G sust) to meas 60.8750 (R note) ( 56.4002- 60.8271) Score: 5740 (25.0+ 3.7)*200
#4 From meas 73.2812 (G note) to meas 78.1292 (G sust) ( 73.3292- 78.1292) Score: 5008 (23.0+ 2.0)*200
#5 From meas 87.0000 (R note) to meas 93.8750 (R note) ( 87.0271- 93.8271) Score: 9788 (45.0+ 3.9)*200
#6 From meas 104.5000 (B note) to meas 109.4001 (B sust) (104.5484-109.4001) Score: 5724 (23.0+ 5.6)*200
#7 From meas 113.0417 (Y note) to meas 117.5000 (Y note) (113.0526-117.4526) Score: 6776 (31.0+ 2.9)*200

nearly-ideal path details
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File: gemini.mid
Solution Path: 2-2-2-1-2-1-S1-1
Estimated Base score 32096
Estimated 4* cutoff 64192
Estimated 5* cutoff 89868
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 125338
Estimated SP Score 49588
Estimated Total Score 174926
Activations:
#1 From meas 23.8750 (Y note) to meas 30.8750 (RY note) ( 23.8849- 30.8271) Score: 9200 (45.0+ 1.0)*200
#2 From meas 43.0000 (R note) to meas 48.7902 (R sust) ( 43.0474- 48.7902) Score: 7120 (32.0+ 3.6)*200
#3 From meas 56.3502 (G sust) to meas 60.8750 (R note) ( 56.3502- 60.8271) Score: 5760 (25.0+ 3.8)*200
#4 From meas 72.6250 (G note) to meas 77.6250 (R note) ( 72.6726- 77.5771) Score: 5160 (24.0+ 1.8)*200
#5 From meas 87.0000 (R note) to meas 93.8750 (R note) ( 86.9205- 93.8760) Score: 9788 (45.0+ 3.9)*200
#6 From meas 104.5000 (B note) to meas 109.5051 (B sust) (104.5484-109.5051) Score: 5768 (23.0+ 5.8)*200
#7 From meas 113.0417 (Y note) to meas 117.5418 (Y sust) (113.0891-117.5418) Score: 6792 (31.0+ 3.0)*200

upper-bound path details
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File: gemini.mid
Solution Path: 2-2-2-1-2-1-S1-1
Estimated Base score 32096
Estimated 4* cutoff 64192
Estimated 5* cutoff 89868
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 125338
Estimated SP Score 49744
Estimated Total Score 175082
Activations:
#1 From meas 23.8750 (Y note) to meas 30.8750 (RY note) ( 23.8810- 30.8760) Score: 9200 (45.0+ 1.0)*200
#2 From meas 43.0000 (R note) to meas 48.8555 (R sust) ( 43.0599- 48.8555) Score: 7144 (32.0+ 3.7)*200
#3 From meas 56.3318 (G sust) to meas 60.8750 (R note) ( 56.3318- 60.8151) Score: 5768 (25.0+ 3.8)*200
#4 From meas 72.6250 (G note) to meas 77.6250 (R note) ( 72.6346- 77.5646) Score: 5160 (24.0+ 1.8)*200
#5 From meas 86.0696 (G sust) to meas 93.1250 (R note) ( 86.0696- 93.0646) Score: 9808 (45.0+ 4.0)*200
#6 From meas 104.5000 (B note) to meas 109.5576 (B sust) (104.5609-109.5576) Score: 5788 (23.0+ 5.9)*200
#7 From meas 113.1667 (G note) to meas 117.7500 (R note) (113.2240-117.6901) Score: 6876 (31.0+ 3.4)*200

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