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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:44 am Post subject: Anatomizing The Cliffs Of Dover - 5 Star & FC Guide |
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Introduction
Looking through Scorehero's Definitive List Of Guides!, I realized that, while there were a few Cliffs Of Dover guides (two [1, 2] to be exact), they were both only about Intro Solo B. Now, these are both great guides, don't get me wrong, but Cliffs Of Dover is a great song and deserves a full length guide for it. Thus, what you are reading right now was created.
Cliffs Of Dover is ranked high on many people's lists of favourite songs in the game. Not only to play, but to listen too as well. It is in the 8th tier, which already makes it a pretty tough song; however, it is (arguably) one of the easier songs in the 8th tier. It's also 4:10 long. Now that you know some information on the song, on to the guide.
And like any song, it gets more fun to play the better you get at it.
Table Of Contents:
1. Fingering Guide
2. Section-By-Section Analysis
... 2A. Intro Solo A
... 2B. Intro Solo B
... 2C. Verse Introduction
... 2D. Verse IA
... 2E. Verse IB
... 2F. Chorus(es)
... 2G. Solo A
... 2H. Solo B
... 2I. Solo C
... 2J. Solo D
... 2K. Outro
... 2L. One Last Solo
3. Other Tips N' Tricks
... 3A. FAQ
... 3B. Tips N' Tricks
... 3C. Version History
4. One Last Thanks
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Fingering Guide
1 = Index
2 = Middle
3 = Ring
4 = Pinky
Underlined Numbers = Anchored finger
Red Numbers = Tapping finger
X = This note should be strummed
E= Elbow Strum
h = Hammer-on
p = Pull-off
1st Position= 1 on , 2 on , 3 on , 4 on
2nd Position= 1 on , 2 on , 3 on , 4 on
3rd Position= 1 on , 2 on , 3 on
Note Chart
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Section-By-Section Analysis
Intro Solo A
The very first note of this song is part of a star power phrase, and it is very important that you get this said phrase. It isn't too difficult, however. You should start on 1st position.
(hold) (hold) .....(hold)
That is what the star power phrase looks like. There are two main ways of fingering this:
(hold) (hold) .....(hold)
1 ........ 3 4........3 1 4 2 3 1 2 3
X ........ X h........X h h X h h h h
(hold) (hold) .....(hold)
1 ........ 2 3........2 1 4 2 3 2 3 4
X ........ X h........X X X X X X h h
If you don't like to use your pinky, then simply replace all the 4's with 3's.
The rest of the section goes like this (with the corresponding fingering)...
(Measures 3 & 4)
4 3 1 1 1 2 3 4 3 2 1 4 3 2 1 2 3 2 1 1 3 2 1 4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4 3 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 3 2 4 3 2 1 3 2 1 1
X p X X h h h h p p p X p p p h h p p p X p p X p p X X h h h h p p p h p h X h h p X p p p p p p p
(Measures 5 & 6)
....
4 3 2 1 1 3 2 4 3 2 1 .... 2 3 2
X p p p p h p X p p p .... X h X
(Measures 7, 8, and 9)
(hold)
1 2 3 2 3 1 1 2 3 2 3 4 ........ 4 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 4
X h h h h X h h h X h h ........ X p X h h h h h h h h h h h X h h h
Intro Solo B
Aaaahhh yes, the infamous 'reverse Thunderhorse orange snake.' This is probably the hardest part of the song, which is why there are so many topics about it.
All of these notes (except the first one) are hammer-ons, but there is one thing to remember you can't hold down the orange button! If you hold down the orange button none of the other notes will register, because you can't hold down a higher note and play lower notes.
It goes like this:
This happens three times. Here are three different methods for hitting it:
Tapping:
4 3 4 2 4 1 4 1 4 1 4 2 4 3
E h h h h h h h h h h h h h
Secondary Tapping Method:
4 3 4 2 4 1 4 1 4 1 4 2 4 3
X h h h h h h h h h h h h h
One-Handed:
4 3 4 2 4 1 4 1 4 1 4 2 4 3
X h h h h h h h h h h h h h
The rest of the section goes like this:
..
2 4 3 2 1 3 2 1 1 4 3 2 1 1 3 2 3 2 1 3 2 3 2 1 3 2 3 2 1 1 .. 2 3 2 3
X p p p p h p p p X p p p p X p h p p X p h p p X p h p p p .. X h p h
And then for some reason there is a random green note that is technically in this section, but I pretty much consider it a part of the Verse Introduction, so I'll put it in the next section.
Verse Introduction
This riff comes up many times in the song and is one of the most important things if you want 5* on this song.
It goes like this:
It does this 3 and 1/4 times. There are also two main ways to finger this: using the hammer-ons and pull-offs, or strumming everything. They are like this:
Using the hammer-ons and pull-offs:
1 4 1 1 1 4 2 1 1 4 3 1 1 4 2 1 1
X h X p X h X p X h X p X h X p X
Strumming everything:
1 4 1 1 1 4 2 1 1 4 3 1 1 4 2 1 1
X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
Verse 1A
The first part goes like this:
(hold) (hold) . . (hold) (hold) .. ..
1 2 .......... 2 3 1 ........ 1 2 2 3 4 2 .......... 3 ..........1 2 .. 1 .. 1
.......................3 ......................................3
X h .......... X h X ........ X h X h X ............. X .......... X X h X X
It then goes into the Verse Introduction riff, and then to this star power phrase:
4 1 1 1 3 1 1 2 4 2 2 2 4 3 3
X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
An alternate fingering is:
3 1 1 1 3 1 1 2 4 1 1 1 4 2 2
X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
Verse 1B
(hold) (hold) ... .. . ..
2 ........ 1 2 3 2 3 4 2 .......... 1 2 3 4 ... 4 .. 2 3 2 . 1 .. 1
4 ...........................3
Then comes a chord that you should play with 1-3 fingering.
Chorus(es)
(hold)
There are slight variations on the chorus each time (a note or two) but for the most part, this is how it goes.
Keep in mind that every other note is a hammer-on; i.e. after the first chord, it goes, strum, hammer-on, strum, hammer-on, etc. However, some people just strum through, which is fine as well.
The use-the-hammer-on method:
(hold)
2
4 ......... 2 1 2 4 1 2 4 3 1 1 3 2 1 1 3 1 3 2 3 4
X ......... X h X h X h X h X h X h X h X h X h X h
The strum everything method:
(hold)
2
4 ......... 2 1 2 4 1 2 4 3 1 1 3 2 1 1 3 1 3 2 3 4
X ......... X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
Solo A
The beginning of the four part solo contains a star power phrase (which contains one chord from Interlude C).
(hold)
1 1 1 2 3
3
4
X X X X X
The rest of Solo A goes like this:
.... (hold) (hold) (hold)
Now, due to spacing, this looks a lot harder than it actually is. You should use this fingering:
.... (hold) (hold) (hold)
2 3 3 4 3 2 1 3 4 3 4 3 2 1 2 1 1 3 2 1 2 .... 1 3 1 2 3 3 4 3 4 3 1 3 4 4 4 3 4 ......... 3 2 1 1 ......... 2 3 ......... 2 3
X X X h X h X h h X h h h h X h h X h h X .... X X X X h X h X X X X X X X h ......... X X X ......... X h ......... X h
Solo B
Probably the easiest solo of all, this is basically a bunch of hold notes; however, it does have a star power phrase that continues into Solo C, which is somewhat important to get.
The star power phrase comes at the end of the Solo, and looks like this:
.. (hold)
1 .. 1 2 3
Keep in mind that it continues into Solo C...
Solo C
...the rest of the star power phrase looks like this:
1 2 3 1 2 3 4
X h h h h h h
Or, it can be fingered like this:
1 1 2 1 1 2 3
X h h h h h h
The rest of it goes like this:
(Measures 143 & 144)
3 3 4 3 2 1 4 3 2 1 3 2 1 2 1 2 3 2 1 3 2 3 2 1 1
X X h h h X h h X h h X h h h h h X h X h h h h h
(Measures 145-150)
(hold) (hold) ....
4 3 2 3 2 1 4 3 2 1 1 3 2 1 3 2 1 1 4 3 1 2 3 2 1 1 1 2 2 3 3 1 1 2 2 3 4 4 3 2
h h h h h h X h h h h h h X X h h h X h h X h h h X X X h X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
Again, because of spacing, this looks harder than it actually is. Look at the note chart for accurate spacing.
Solo D
The first part goes like this:
(hold)
1 3 ......... 2 3
X X ......... X X
Then comes the infamous 'reverse Thunderhorse orange snake' again. However, it is shorter than the one present in Intro Solo B. See Intro Solo B for more details.
The next part of Solo D goes like this:
.. ..
3 2 .. 3 2 .. 3
X h .. X h .. X
There is a star power phrase here:
.
1 2 3 2 3 2 4 . 2 3 3 2 3 4 1 2
X h X h X h X . X h X h X h X h
Then the final two notes:
(hold)
3 ......... 4
Or, impress your friends and play it with your hand over the fretboard!
Outro
This is pretty much the Verse Introduction riff again, but with one variation towards the end that goes like this:
1 3 3 2 1 4
X h X X X X
One Last Solo
You know that Cliffs Of Dover isn't going out without a fight, because it throws one more tough solo at you right at the end!
(Measures 181-183)
(hold)
2 3 ......... 3 1 2 3 4 3 2 1 3 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 4 3 1 2 1 2 1 3 2 1 2 1 3
X h ......... X h h h h h h h h X h h h h X h h h h X h h h h h h h X h
(Measures 184-190)
(hold)
2 3 4 3 2 3 1 4 3 2 1 1
..............................3
..............................4
X h h h h h X h h X h X
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Other Tips N' Tricks
FAQ
Q: Why would I want to five star/FC Cliffs Of Dover?
A: 1) If you want the achivement or the El Jefe guitar then you have too. 2) Bragging rights. 3) If you're going for the Enlightened Guitarist achievement then you may as well give Cliffs Of Dover a try.
Q: How did you write this guide?
A: On a computer. Seriously though, check out the Guide To Writing Guides. It's really handy. I also wrote this guide using the Note Chart, Scorehero's Definitive List Of Guides!, and others (see One Last Thanks section for full credits).
Tips N' Tricks
- If you're having trouble beating a song, try 5-starring an easier one.
- If you have cold hands, it makes it harder to play Guitar Hero.
- Practice Mode can help for extremely tough sections of songs.
- Try various fingerings on parts of songs and see which one works best for you.
Version History
- Fixed the messed up bold tag
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One Last Thanks
- Scorehero's Definitive List Of Guides!
- The Note Chart
- Guide To Writing Guides
- Most Impulsive Expert Guide Ever
- Any user who's encouraged/supported me when writing guides.
- YOU! Thanks for reading my guide, I hope it got you closer to that 5-star/FC!
Check out my other guides!
Beast And The Harlot - Expert - 5* Guide
Stricken Guide v.1.1
Thanks for reading! _________________
Last edited by -Magnum- on Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:37 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Kyuukyuu
Joined: 30 May 2008 Posts: 659 Location: BC, Canada
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:09 am Post subject: |
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For Intro B one handed, I find it easier if you switch to using ring finger for the Orange notes after both Greens are gone.
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I haven't had time to read the rest yet, but it was about time someone made a CoD guide. GJ
edit: You may want to reduce your font size. When you have the numbers listed for fingering, the font size causes the numbers to be misaligned with the freticons. Same thing with the "u/d/h" symbols for strumming and HOPOing. |
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zsjostrom35
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: |
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I was actually about to write a guide for this song; now I don't have to . Good job.
Couple of suggestions:
--This guide is definitely solid as an FC guide, but for a five-star guide you should probably include a little more on what sections are important to hit and proper star power usage.
--ThunderAlex has a great Intro Solo B guide (one of the two you linked in your Introduction). I know he has five different methods listed there, you should consider adding the other two.
--I found a few small mistakes in fingering alignment:
----First part of Verse 1A
----The three-note chord in the first part of Solo A is a sustain; your fingering for the chord also doesn't line up well
----Your strumming in Solo A is also off by a bit
----Your fingering in Solo C appears a bit cut-off
----The fingering for the last chord in One Last Solo doesn't line up. _________________
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ChaosLegend
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TheThirdDay
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: Re: Anatomizing The Cliffs Of Dover - 5 Star & FC Guide |
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There are a bunch of errors in your coding, a chick glance should point them out... _________________
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-Magnum-
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Anatomizing The Cliffs Of Dover - 5 Star & FC Guide |
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TheThirdDay wrote: | There are a bunch of errors in your coding, a chick glance should point them out... |
I don't see any errors at all...
Are you using FireFox? _________________
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zsjostrom35
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Anatomizing The Cliffs Of Dover - 5 Star & FC Guide |
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-Magnum- wrote: | TheThirdDay wrote: | There are a bunch of errors in your coding, a chick glance should point them out... |
I don't see any errors at all...
Are you using FireFox? |
This one took a little searching, but I found the problem. You didn't close the first bold tag you used in your table of contents, so it went looking for the next [/b] tag it could find, which happened to be at your "Fingering Guide" line. The [b] tag in that line therefore had no closing tag, so it went looking for the next one, and so on, which caused the whole guide to screw up. I'm not sure why it affects Firefox differently than it does IE (not the first time I've seen discrepancies between the two), but it's a simple fix.
On an unrelated note, would you mind if I wrote up a fairly in-depth post on using Practice Mode for the Chorus? I mentioned earlier that I previously had been planning to write a guide for this song; that was one of the things I was going to do. If you're interested, it would probably look something like this: http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71730#Practice _________________
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eZraLite
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Great guide, figures, I just just five-starred this, and I don't think I'll be going for the FC :[ _________________
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ThunderAlex
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Anatomizing The Cliffs Of Dover - 5 Star & FC Guide |
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zsjostrom35 wrote: |
On an unrelated note, would you mind if I wrote up a fairly in-depth post on using Practice Mode for the Chorus? I mentioned earlier that I previously had been planning to write a guide for this song; that was one of the things I was going to do. If you're interested, it would probably look something like this: http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71730#Practice |
You know, you could make a whole guide as well. More is better, right?
@ topic: This is a great guide, too bad I didn't have anything like this when I practiced 5*-ing this song.... (life isn't fair lol) _________________
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zsjostrom35
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Anatomizing The Cliffs Of Dover - 5 Star & FC Guide |
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ThunderAlex wrote: | zsjostrom35 wrote: |
On an unrelated note, would you mind if I wrote up a fairly in-depth post on using Practice Mode for the Chorus? I mentioned earlier that I previously had been planning to write a guide for this song; that was one of the things I was going to do. If you're interested, it would probably look something like this: http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71730#Practice |
You know, you could make a whole guide as well. More is better, right? |
I guess, but it just doesn't feel...I don't know...polite (something like that) to infringe on another guide-writer's territory. I suppose if enough people wanted me to do it I would, but even then only if -Magnum- was one of them. _________________
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-Magnum-
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Anatomizing The Cliffs Of Dover - 5 Star & FC Guide |
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[quote="zsjostrom35"]
On an unrelated note, would you mind if I wrote up a fairly in-depth post on using Practice Mode for the Chorus? I mentioned earlier that I previously had been planning to write a guide for this song; that was one of the things I was going to do. If you're interested, it would probably look something like this
Thanks for the heads up, I was wondering what it was that some people were seeing wrong with it. It has been corrected.
And sure, you can write a practice mode post. Be my guest. _________________
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STANDSwitTREES
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good idea for a good guide _________________
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Deak2112
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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I got -7 in one last solo and lost the FC so thanks for good fingering suggestions.
And props man, this must have taken forever _________________
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zsjostrom35
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: Re: Anatomizing The Cliffs Of Dover - 5 Star & FC Guide |
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Yeah, the fix worked. It looks fine now.
One more suggestion; an easy change that you could make would be to paste this guide into a word processor with a find/replace function. Use that to replace all instances of the word "white" with "#F0F0F0". This will change the color of the periods that you used for spacing to match the exact color of the background of your post, thus rendering them invisible. The white doesn't look bad, but with a minimal effort it could look even better.
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-Magnum- wrote: | And sure, you can write a practice mode post. Be my guest. |
After more thought on the matter, I've decided that a general guide to using Practice Mode effectively will be more useful. I could do Cliffs of Dover chorus as an example there, though, and you can link it or copy it if it works out well. I'll let you know when I finish it. _________________
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