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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nikolas1 wrote:
cdylan13 wrote:
nikolas1 wrote:
Subrick wrote:
Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter, and Hannity are complete and utter morons. They have no tolerance for anyone else's viewpoints than their own and of those that match them, and whenever they know they're wrong they do one of three things: blame liberals, call people nazis, or blame gays.

False. What you said was very ignorant and just plain old wrong.


Prove him wrong then. Everything he said I've heard.

You've heard from what? The media? The only way to prove him wrong is to tell him to actually listen to these people. Clearly he does not. The only one he is kinda right about is O'rielly.


Last time I checked, they were PART of the media. Everything is up to interpretation depending on where you hear it from. I prefer to listen to everybody from all sides of the political spectrum and decipher the bullshit myself.

And since this thread didn't involve these people when it started, I also hate Nancy Grace and Keith Olbermann.

In fact, I hate Nancy Grace more than ANYONE else in the media (except some of the people on ESPN, but that is irrelavant), and I want to put her on a desolate island with the people she rambles about on her shitty program (especially Casey Anthony), let them kill each other for two weeks, then firebomb the survivors.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes!! I know I said I'd stay out of this (which is really hard because I've been watching it all day) but I wanted to clarify something I said earlier. I said that I like O' Reilly, well I don't know the guy personally and neither does anyone here. All we have is stories and videos to show his true personality. His true personality is irrelevant to what he does, however, and hopefully you guys can agree, because what he talks about isn't automatically wrong just because he is an asshole. When I said I liked him what i actually should have been more clear on is that I like his perspective. I am a regular listener of Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh. *ducks from the flames :P* but O' Reilly gives a more moderate point of view in politics and like it's been said, he is pretty fair if you watch and listen to him enough, but nobodies perfect so I'm sure there will be some inconsistencies with that.

*Sneaks back into the shadows*

EDIT: Are the pundits considered media? Honest question. I didn't know if the private sector could still count as media.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EDIT: Are the pundits considered media? Honest question. I didn't know if the private sector could still count as media.


I believe so, considering the amount of people that listen to and are influenced (be it negative or positive) by these shows. Plus, they may be private sector, but they are broadcast on public (well, as public as cable news gets) broadcasts, so therefore, they are media. I think.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hate Fox News so much. Even more so since they got Glenn Beck. It's mind boggling how biased that network is.

EDIT: Oh my god. That video is ridiculous.



ever notice how liberal-biased everything else on TV is, shit jon stewart must bleed blue.


aloso on an unrelated note about hypocrisy, everyone is a hypocrite get over it
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IEdit: lmao

That is scary... I don't think any reporter should be on TV with that narrow minded sort of view... And I don't think any reporter here in Australia is that ignorant, that hypocritical and that hellbent on bitching and moaning about every issue on the sun... And contortion.

His rants are good for sampling though. YOU WANT ANARCHY! etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking that most of the time, O'Reilly makes a point and doesn't want to back down from it, to avoid admitting that he was wrong, so it's not that he's narrow minded but rather wants to convince people of his original point, even if he doesn't believe in it anymore.

Also, stop straying so far off topic with politics, this is a discussion about Bill O'Reilly and I'd really hate for it to be locked due to a large flamewar =/
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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krisdaschwab912 wrote:
I hate Fox News so much. Even more so since they got Glenn Beck. It's mind boggling how biased that network is.

EDIT: Oh my god. That video is ridiculous.



ever notice how liberal-biased everything else on TV is, shit jon stewart must bleed blue.


aloso on an unrelated note about hypocrisy, everyone is a hypocrite get over it


Sounds like somebody is bitter for some reason. CNN is the least biased network, but they don't report everything. Fox News and MSNBC report a lot of things, but bias the hell out of them both. Can't really win with the media, I suppose, unless you know what you're looking for.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that on the Daily Show earlier this week and in my opinion, Jon Stewart has done much better (even though I do like Colbert more). I don't watch Fox News enough to know that much about O'Reilly, but that hypocrisy in that last clip is even funny from how bad it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

krisdaschwab912 wrote:
I hate Fox News so much. Even more so since they got Glenn Beck. It's mind boggling how biased that network is.

EDIT: Oh my god. That video is ridiculous.


What, like every other network isn't biased? They're just as bad as Fox is in the other direction. Same with newspapers. It's all liberally biased bullshit.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prophet wrote:
krisdaschwab912 wrote:
I hate Fox News so much. Even more so since they got Glenn Beck. It's mind boggling how biased that network is.

EDIT: Oh my god. That video is ridiculous.


What, like every other network isn't biased? They're just as bad as Fox is in the other direction. Same with newspapers. It's all liberally biased bullshit.



Yes, all the others are biased too, blah blah blah, already been said. But Fox is by far the worst. Their bias is to the point where their view of reality is distorted horribly. As I said before, the worst offenders are O'Reilly, Coulter, and Hannity. I add one more to the list: Glenn Beck. I add Beck not because he's got the same mission strategy/bullshit excuse as the other 3 do, which is blame liberals for all the bad things in America. No, Beck is far stupider than that. Prime example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJJlgNf06ek

Idiots. Fucking idiots. How in the hell does porn turn you into a serial killer?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subrick wrote:
Prophet wrote:
krisdaschwab912 wrote:
I hate Fox News so much. Even more so since they got Glenn Beck. It's mind boggling how biased that network is.

EDIT: Oh my god. That video is ridiculous.


What, like every other network isn't biased? They're just as bad as Fox is in the other direction. Same with newspapers. It's all liberally biased bullshit.



Yes, all the others are biased too, blah blah blah, already been said. But Fox is by far the worst. Their bias is to the point where their view of reality is distorted horribly. As I said before, the worst offenders are O'Reilly, Coulter, and Hannity. I add one more to the list: Glenn Beck. I add Beck not because he's got the same mission strategy/bullshit excuse as the other 3 do, which is blame liberals for all the bad things in America. No, Beck is far stupider than that. Prime example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJJlgNf06ek

Idiots. Fucking idiots. How in the hell does porn turn you into a serial killer?


Now now, imo, you can't get worse than MSNBC. Like I said, I'm a frequent listener of Limbaugh and Hannity's radio show and it took me about a week to shut MSNBC out of my life. They did everything they could to discredit and ruin them. I listen to something Limbaugh would say and then i would watch people like Olberman completely spin it around. It was almost funny. I swear MSNBC's source is the Young Turks or something. Fox may have republicans on the show but I am far more informed watching it than I was during my CNN days. People on the left just say Fox is the worst because it's the only national media counterpoint and they want it gone just like they want conservative radio gone. Half the people that diss on Hannity, Limbaugh, Ingraham, Beck, O' Reilly, and Savage have never even listened to them, only go by what other networks say, or maybe use 1 or 2 videos from youtube to judge them.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Half the people that diss on Hannity, Limbaugh, Ingraham, Beck, O' Reilly, and Savage have never even listened to them, only go by what other networks say, or maybe use 1 or 2 videos from youtube to judge them.

I've heard and read enough by them and about them to know that they all pretty much consider the likes of me (see: job description) as part of some anti-American/democracy conspiracy. And they wonder why they've alienated academia? Talk show hosts barking about climate change, evolution, or any other field of science is about as pointless as Jenny McCarthy barking about vaccines, especially with how wrong they consistently are. I can't stand the nonsense, whether it comes from the left or the right. But, for the most part, at least the folks on the left don't seem to be bitching about some non-existent conspiracy, one that really makes no sense if you think about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.insmkt.com/planning.htm

I didn't actually read this site, so going in and refuting it would be pointless. I'm just showing you that anyone can post links to other peoples opinion and talk like they are fact.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought this would be relevant to this particular thread

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subrick wrote:

I add Beck not because he's got the same mission strategy/bullshit excuse as the other 3 do, which is blame liberals for all the bad things in America. No, Beck is far stupider than that. Prime example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJJlgNf06ek

Idiots. Fucking idiots. How in the hell does porn turn you into a serial killer?

If pornography really turned people into serial killers, half of the people in this country would be serial killers.

Not only that, he just generalized every Atheist as being afraid of the word prayer, based on the actions of one Atheist. That is like me saying that all Christians are like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8KiYlgeeG8
Now, if all Christians were like that I would probably be a serial killer.
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