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lucothefish
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 844 Location: PAL
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: |
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I would recommend to anyone that they get a picture of the solar system / galaxy / universe as their desktop wallpaper, especially at work.
It really helps you realise just how small your problems really are _________________
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ArmourTheLlama
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 501 Location: Surrey, England
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I'm 13 and have had no real education to help me understand my question, so it's probably extremely stupid, but how can they possibly estimate the size of the universe? Surely it just goes on forever and ever and therefore has no limited size? If anyone could explain I'd be really grateful _________________
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lucothefish
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 844 Location: PAL
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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ArmourTheLlama wrote: | Ok I'm 13 and have had no real education to help me understand my question, so it's probably extremely stupid, but how can they possibly estimate the size of the universe? Surely it just goes on forever and ever and therefore has no limited size? If anyone could explain I'd be really grateful |
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/What%20is%20infinity.htm
^That's a good place to start.
Tl;dr - There is 'The Universe' i.e. what came out of the big bang, and 'The Universe' i.e. everything, even beyond the boundaries of our own big bang explosion. So technically the universe expands into itself... yeah. _________________
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thecaptainof
Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 7571 Location: ¯\(°_o)/¯
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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What... lucothefish on mah Scorehero? UNPOSSIBLE. (Sup bro, long time etc.)
I love that Imagining The 10th Dimension lark. All this 'scale of the universe' thing makes me feel sort of small and insignificant, but in a good way... kinda like luco said: if you think about your problems in a cosmic sense, it's all fucking trivial. _________________
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lucothefish
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 844 Location: PAL
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Holla back at ya Cap'n... wow 6,000 posts, someone's been a busy boy
I have an actua headache from reading that 10th dimension thing _________________
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ArmourTheLlama
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 501 Location: Surrey, England
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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OK thanks a lot for that
Also @ OP thanks a lot for that size comparison thing, it's really cool _________________
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GuardianDemon
Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 1792 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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thecaptainof wrote: | All this 'scale of the universe' thing makes me feel sort of small and insignificant, . |
LOL,
The Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy wrote: | Your an invisible dot on an invisible dot |
DON'T PANIC |
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OpenYourEyes
Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 4086 Location: I'm not sure. It's dark and I hear laughing.
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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lucothefish wrote: | ArmourTheLlama wrote: | Ok I'm 13 and have had no real education to help me understand my question, so it's probably extremely stupid, but how can they possibly estimate the size of the universe? Surely it just goes on forever and ever and therefore has no limited size? If anyone could explain I'd be really grateful |
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/What%20is%20infinity.htm
^That's a good place to start.
Tl;dr - There is 'The Universe' i.e. what came out of the big bang, and 'The Universe' i.e. everything, even beyond the boundaries of our own big bang explosion. So technically the universe expands into itself... yeah. |
That's quite an interesting point. I've never really thought of that. The way I've always thought was the the universe was a finite size, expanding at an infinite rate. _________________
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GuardianDemon
Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 1792 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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WOW !!! I hevent been that entertained since i beat TtFaF !!!
I always knew that about infinitey though |
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jamesw
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 1264 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:15 am Post subject: |
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My mind has officially been blown on every level possible. I've always been curious about the different dimensions, and now I finally understand. _________________
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thecaptainof
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:57 am Post subject: |
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GuardianDemon wrote: | thecaptainof wrote: | All this 'scale of the universe' thing makes me feel sort of small and insignificant, . |
LOL,
The Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy wrote: | Your an invisible dot on an invisible dot |
DON'T PANIC |
Haha, trust Douglas Adams to sum it up. It's pretty much perfect sense innit. Particularly now that I'm a bit drunk. :P Good tiiimess. _________________
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blackhawk12
Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 448 Location: ¯\(°_o)/¯
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:02 am Post subject: |
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thecaptainof wrote: | GuardianDemon wrote: | thecaptainof wrote: | All this 'scale of the universe' thing makes me feel sort of small and insignificant, . |
LOL,
The Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy wrote: | Your an invisible dot on an invisible dot |
DON'T PANIC |
Haha, trust Douglas Adams to sum it up. It's pretty much perfect sense innit. Particularly now that I'm a bit drunk. :P Good tiiimess. |
The Total Perspective Vortex... ah, what a man. Pity the world has to survive without him now... _________________
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anonymous_4
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Vampyromaniac
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Just for the record guys, the 10th dimension video isn't really synonymous with what modern quantum physics believes, it's just a good way to put into perspective the scale of adding each dimension, and having a really cool and simple way of trying to visualize it.
As for the universe not being infinite, and expanding, they basically mean the area containing matter. The universe in the sense that I had always thought of it actually is infinite and static, and a very small portion of that is occupied by what scientists consider the universe. As far as I'm concerned, if you were to teleport to a place that is a full lightyear farther from the center of the universe than the current piece of matter that is farthest from th center, then the same physics would apply, and the same space-fabric would be present... so I see no reason why the definition of the universe should only include the region containing matter, and not the region outside of that. We have no way of knowing whether there is another "universe" of matter that would exist far outside of our own, say another several trillion lightyears away, that had once had it's own 'big bang' and all... that would follow the same laws of physics, and etc. That would be far enough away that we would not be able to detect the light from it, but since our universe is the region containing all the matter, by our definition our universe would then contain the two universes but nothing more, even though we would surely consider the possibility of a third and possibly infinite others. Now I'm not saying that a different universe could not exist that would have different physics, just that we could not travel to it by venturing any distance. If there were to be another place where there were different physics that was not connected to our own universe by any amount of distance, then THAT is what should be considered a different universe, and a part of an overall multiverse. But that's just my opinion. Let me know if any of you agree. _________________
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OpenYourEyes
Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 4086 Location: I'm not sure. It's dark and I hear laughing.
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Now that I think of it, our universe is supposedly 13.7 billion years old, and how far we could see would be 13.7 billion light years, because that's how far light can go. What if the reason we thinkk the universe is expanding is because the light from farther and farther away is getting to us, and we're able to see further and further? _________________
blingdomepiece wrote: | Eastwinn wrote: | As a kid I wasted my time cheating in SimCity or the Sims, and now that I'm discovering how much fun it is to not cheat, I'm also discovering how stupidly hard it is | Set all the tax rates to 9. |
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