Is the extended sustain glitch different on GH:M than it was on GH:WT?

[THABEAST721]

I wasn't really active in the community when this glitch was being experimented with, so I am just going off what posts I could find on it, and what others have told me. I am currently going through GH:M squeezing songs, and I wanted to check to see if anyone knows if the glitch behaves differently in this game than it did in WT? I was playing Enter Sandman, and I forgot to glitch the sustain. I did another run where I gtliched it, and my score was 16 points lower. Am I doing something wrong, or maybe I just got unlucky with that run? Another thing is in Orion, I hit one more squeeze than Fug did in his video, but I was like 130 points below his score or so. I glitched the sustains, and he didn't.

tl;dr Does the glitch for extended sustains act differently in GH:M or other games than it does in WT? Also, does anyone have any general tips for doing them?

EDIT And what is up with the 4th activation in this path not being possible? It's a starpower phrase in 4/4 time with exactly eight beats of whammy, and there is no real place to drop ticks, yet it seems that no one is able to do it. I didn't hit it once. Whammy in these new games is kind of weird. I lilke GH3 or the early whammy style of GH2 better.
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[THABEAST721]

I wasn't really active in the community when this glitch was being experimented with, so I am just going off what posts I could find on it, and what others have told me. I am currently going through GH:M squeezing songs, and I wanted to check to see if anyone knows if the glitch behaves differently in this game than it did in WT? I was playing Enter Sandman, and I forgot to glitch the sustain. I did another run where I gtliched it, and my score was 16 points lower. Am I doing something wrong, or maybe I just got unlucky with that run? Another thing is in Orion, I hit one more squeeze than Fug did in his video, but I was like 130 points below his score or so. I glitched the sustains, and he didn't.

tl;dr Does the glitch for extended sustains act differently in GH:M or other games than it does in WT? Also, does anyone have any general tips for doing them?

EDIT And what is up with the 4th activation in this path not being possible? It's a starpower phrase in 4/4 time with exactly eight beats of whammy, and there is no real place to drop ticks, yet it seems that no one is able to do it. I didn't hit it once. Whammy in these new games is kind of weird. I lilke GH3 or the early whammy style of GH2 better.
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[Graf]

I didn't pay nearly enough attention to the topic when it was brought up during the release of these games, but I feel like I remember someone saying that the glitch was either harder to do, or fixed in later iterations of the game. Don't quote me on that, but maybe that explains your experiences in Guitar Hero: Metallica.

Either way, I am interested to hear what is said or brought up on the topic.
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[Graf]

I didn't pay nearly enough attention to the topic when it was brought up during the release of these games, but I feel like I remember someone saying that the glitch was either harder to do, or fixed in later iterations of the game. Don't quote me on that, but maybe that explains your experiences in Guitar Hero: Metallica.

Either way, I am interested to hear what is said or brought up on the topic.
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[ThunderShade]

I can't speak for the relative difficulty of glitching M to WT. In Enter Sandman, the glitch isn't worth much though. Even if you did it perfectly, you might get something like +70. In practice I'd suspect you'd get around +40.

Probably best just to explain how tick glitching works. Take the Enter Sandman case. You drop blue before orange. Then you hit orange. Since you dropped blue before hand, the game thinks the sustain only gave you the points in the orange hold instead of for the whole extended sustain, so at the very end it will apply a small burst to correct this. So in this case you should get 24 extra points at the end of the orange.

In a similar extended hold with a larger gap between B and O, you could drop the B way in advance and still get the same tick burst at the end. See Smells Like Teen Spirit on GH5 for example.

This means that if you don't get the very end of the hold, then you're not going to get any substantial boost. This also means that dropping before intermediate holds in three note extended sustains is pointless. I mean things like Demons, Cult of Personality, and such. If it goes YBO, you should hit Y early, B whenever while holding Y, and then drop YB just before O. The exception is if some of them end halfway through, like in Graduate in GHWoR. Then you just have to experiment or calculate whatever is best.

It's worth noting that I've only tested this on GHSH, GH5, GHVH and GHWoR. No Excuses looks like a decent song to test this on though.
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[ThunderShade]

I can't speak for the relative difficulty of glitching M to WT. In Enter Sandman, the glitch isn't worth much though. Even if you did it perfectly, you might get something like +70. In practice I'd suspect you'd get around +40.

Probably best just to explain how tick glitching works. Take the Enter Sandman case. You drop blue before orange. Then you hit orange. Since you dropped blue before hand, the game thinks the sustain only gave you the points in the orange hold instead of for the whole extended sustain, so at the very end it will apply a small burst to correct this. So in this case you should get 24 extra points at the end of the orange.

In a similar extended hold with a larger gap between B and O, you could drop the B way in advance and still get the same tick burst at the end. See Smells Like Teen Spirit on GH5 for example.

This means that if you don't get the very end of the hold, then you're not going to get any substantial boost. This also means that dropping before intermediate holds in three note extended sustains is pointless. I mean things like Demons, Cult of Personality, and such. If it goes YBO, you should hit Y early, B whenever while holding Y, and then drop YB just before O. The exception is if some of them end halfway through, like in Graduate in GHWoR. Then you just have to experiment or calculate whatever is best.

It's worth noting that I've only tested this on GHSH, GH5, GHVH and GHWoR. No Excuses looks like a decent song to test this on though.
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