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popemobile  





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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GanonMetroid wrote:
vct wrote:
Really? I don't think so. Look at this measure:



There's no 6/8 here.
Neither is there in the noise build. Even in 6/8 songs, you'll get couplets, doubles, whatever you want to call them, where you get 2 notes to fit in the space of 3. That's an example of them.


actually, those are 16th notes.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spopt.pl optimized path for killinginthenameof.mid (expert)

File: killinginthenameof.mid
Solution Path: 3-2-3-3-2
Estimated Base score 100142
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 393988
Estimated SP Score 159767
Estimated Total Score 553755
Activations:
From meas 31.3125 (B note) to meas 38.3750 (RY note) Score: 20800 ((104.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 50.4583 (R note) to meas 54.4583 (RO note) Score: 16400 ((82.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 76.8333 (R note) to meas 82.8750 (O note) Score: 25000 ((125.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 98.5000 (Y sust) to meas 105.9583 (YO note) Score: 67367 ((336.0 + 0.8) * 200 )
From meas 115.9500 (Y note) to meas 120.1250 (GR note) Score: 30200 ((151.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Diminuendo - SP Chart Reply with quote

This is my SP Chart... I have also edited it the last note, do read this no matter what size it comes up in... This is a really accurate chart in my eyes and you should see some liking in it too...

View The SP Chart Here
View A 100% Video With The Chart Used

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Barfo  





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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: Diminuendo - SP Chart Reply with quote

Diminuendo wrote:
This is my SP Chart... I have also edited it the last note, do read this no matter what size it comes up in... This is a really accurate chart in my eyes and you should see some liking in it too...

Its already established earlier in the thread that 3-2-3-3-2 beats a 4-4-3-2 chart. Also, you dont even indicate the last activation. its critical to get the second to last SP (by starting your SP before the noise build during the whammyable hold if necessary) so that you can activate right away after the last one to collect the huge amount of poitns int eh three note chord and GB 16ths (?) sections.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, 4-4-3-2 is better than 3-2-3-3-2 by one tick, but if you can double squeeze in the 3rd activation of 3-2-3-3-2 (hitting two notes under SP that are more than 6 measures apart, in addition to hitting all the other squeezes) 3-2-3-3-2 becomes optimal.

Debr's program output includes the double squeeze and finds 3-2-3-3-2 optimal:
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From meas 76.8333 (R note) to meas 82.8750 (O note) Score: 25000 ((125.0 + 0.0) * 200 )

82.875 - 76.833 > 6.

I stick with 4-4-3-2 when I play because it is much easier to execute (no squeezes except for the last activation), and there's no chance in hell I'd be able to hit the double squeeze.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright! THis thread raised my score by... 30 points... I need to FC this.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:18 am    Post subject: spopt2.pl results Reply with quote

spopt2.pl results for "Killing in the Name" (gh2-ps2/expert) generated on 07/20/2007

lazy-whammy (552884) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (553560) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (553756) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (553972) PNG TXT
upper-bound (553980) PNG TXT

KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying

big-squeeze path details
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File: killinginthenameof.mid
Solution Path: 3-2-3-3-2
Estimated Base score 100128
Estimated 4* cutoff 200256
Estimated 5* cutoff 280358
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 394004
Estimated SP Score 159752
Estimated Total Score 553756
Activations:
#1 From meas 31.3125 (B note) to meas 38.3750 (RY note) ( 31.3094- 38.3760) Score: 20800 (104.0+ 0.0)*200
#2 From meas 50.4583 (R note) to meas 54.4583 (RO note) ( 50.4573- 54.4573) Score: 16400 (82.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 76.8750 (R note) to meas 82.9167 (O note) ( 76.8990- 82.8990) Score: 25000 (125.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 98.5281 (Y sust) to meas 105.9583 (YO note) ( 98.5281-105.9359) Score: 67352 (336.0+ 0.8)*200
#5 From meas 115.9500 (Y note) to meas 120.1250 (GR note) (115.9483-120.1260) Score: 30200 (151.0+ 0.0)*200

nearly-ideal path details
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File: killinginthenameof.mid
Solution Path: 3-2-3-3-2
Estimated Base score 100128
Estimated 4* cutoff 200256
Estimated 5* cutoff 280358
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 394004
Estimated SP Score 159968
Estimated Total Score 553972
Activations:
#1 From meas 31.3125 (B note) to meas 38.3750 (RY note) ( 31.2772- 38.3760) Score: 20800 (104.0+ 0.0)*200
#2 From meas 50.4583 (R note) to meas 54.4583 (RO note) ( 50.4573- 54.4573) Score: 16400 (82.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 76.8750 (R note) to meas 82.9167 (O note) ( 76.8990- 82.8990) Score: 25000 (125.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 98.4902 (Y sust) to meas 105.9583 (YO note) ( 98.4902-105.9359) Score: 67368 (336.0+ 0.8)*200
#5 From meas 116.0000 (YBO note) to meas 120.2500 (GR note) (116.0227-120.2260) Score: 30400 (152.0+ 0.0)*200

upper-bound path details
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File: killinginthenameof.mid
Solution Path: 3-2-3-3-2
Estimated Base score 100128
Estimated 4* cutoff 200256
Estimated 5* cutoff 280358
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 394004
Estimated SP Score 159976
Estimated Total Score 553980
Activations:
#1 From meas 31.3125 (B note) to meas 38.3750 (RY note) ( 31.2688- 38.3760) Score: 20800 (104.0+ 0.0)*200
#2 From meas 50.4583 (R note) to meas 54.4583 (RO note) ( 50.4573- 54.4573) Score: 16400 (82.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 76.8333 (R note) to meas 82.8750 (O note) ( 76.8438- 82.8438) Score: 25000 (125.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 98.4778 (Y sust) to meas 105.9583 (YO note) ( 98.4778-105.9302) Score: 67376 (336.0+ 0.9)*200
#5 From meas 116.0000 (YBO note) to meas 120.2500 (GR note) (116.0302-120.2397) Score: 30400 (152.0+ 0.0)*200

Please post any bugs/questions about these auto-generated paths HERE.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I knew what the hell all of that means ^^^
Could someone explain? please?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: spopt2.pl results Reply with quote

debr5836 wrote:
spopt2.pl results for "Killing in the Name" (gh2-ps2/expert) generated on 07/20/2007

lazy-whammy (552884) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (553560) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (553756) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (553972) PNG TXT
upper-bound (553980) PNG TXT

KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying


Click on one of the PNG links to see a picture of the SP path.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my score went up like crazy. thanks for the star power chart
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love this song hope i can FC it
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