Scoring, Star Power, and Squeezing on Drums

[HoorayItsMike]

This is a guide/FAQ on how scoring, Star Power, and squeezing work on drums in Guitar Hero: World Tour.

Scoring

(Numbers in parentheses represent scores at 4x Multiplier)
[Numbers in brackets represent armor note scores at 4x Multiplier]

World Tour Drum Kit Charts

Bass Pedal: 75 points (300)
Orange Cymbal: 60 points (240) [360]
Red/Yellow/Green/Blue Pads: 50 points (200) [300]

RB1, RB2, Ion Kit Charts

Bass Pedal: 75 points (300)
Red/Yellow/Green/Blue: 50 points (200)
Armor notes do not exist in RB charts.

When using Star Power, all point values are doubled for the duration that the Star Power lasts.

Armor notes do not ever exist for the bass pedal on any chart.

You multiply a note's value by 1.5x to achieve how much you would get if it was an armor note.

I believe drum sustains are 50 points for every 1 beat under a 4x multiplier.

The multiplier goes up by individual hits instead of notes. It does not matter how many notes are in a single beat, it will still be considered as only one notch on the multiplier.

Star Power

If you are playing on a RB kit then just replace "orange" with "blue" and everything should make sense.

Activating: The following paragraph only applies to World Tour. It does not apply to GH:Metallica or future GH games. First of all, to activate you have to accumulate two phrases of star power and then hit the yellow and orange cymbals nearly simultaneously to activate Star Power. When activating on a yellow or orange note, you must hit the note that is NOT charted before you hit the note that IS charted. If a yellow note is coming down, you must hit the orange and then yellow to activate correctly and vice versa. I've tested this for many hours and every time this statement held true. Your two hits can even be separated by a fairly large margin and it will still activate. Someguy913 originally came up with this theory.

Side Notes On Activating

You cannot activate star power if a yellow and orange note come down together on the same beat.

If a yellow or orange note comes down alone and you activate within that note's timing window it will NOT count under SP, but it will still be counted as a regular hit and an orange flame will come up.

When you activate, you get about 1 or 2 timing window lengths of "free time" to get yourself back in position and to start playing again. There is not a set note amount that is automatically hit for you. There is a certain time length of "free time".

Now, when you use this "free time", the notes that go by the screen will not break your multiplier, but they will not be counted for any points whatsoever (this only applies to World Tour). However, if you do decide to play all of the notes that would be in this "free time", they will be counted as under Star Power. In GH:Metallica the notes that you don't play because of activating Star Power will still count as being hit and will count for points.

Squeezing

Assuming you have read the Star Power section of this FAQ, you should have a pretty good understanding of how Star Power works.

The easiest front-end squeeze to explain is the bass pedal squeeze. You basically activate Star Power directly on beat with the bass pedal and then just hit the pedal a little later than the beat.

It is, however, possible to do a much more complex front-end squeeze by abusing the timing window quite a bit. Say we have a beat that consists of red, yellow, and bass pedal. Normally, if we were to activate Star Power here the red note would just float by, the yellow would be an orange flame, and the bass pedal would be under Star Power and be a blue flame if we were to do the regular front-end squeeze. Instead of just having that red note float by, though, you can quickly move your hands from the cymbals and hit the red and have it count as under SP instead of zero points. The same thing would happen with a blue or green note.

When making paths you have to decide how much you are willing to squeeze to change where your activations are. There are many, many factors that could change what would be the best activation in certain situations. If you need help then feel free to ask.

For back-end squeezing it's the same as it has always been. Just hit the last note(s) as early as you can. You usually will want to end your activations on the most point-filled beats you can find.
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[HoorayItsMike]

This is a guide/FAQ on how scoring, Star Power, and squeezing work on drums in Guitar Hero: World Tour.

Scoring

(Numbers in parentheses represent scores at 4x Multiplier)
[Numbers in brackets represent armor note scores at 4x Multiplier]

World Tour Drum Kit Charts

Bass Pedal: 75 points (300)
Orange Cymbal: 60 points (240) [360]
Red/Yellow/Green/Blue Pads: 50 points (200) [300]

RB1, RB2, Ion Kit Charts

Bass Pedal: 75 points (300)
Red/Yellow/Green/Blue: 50 points (200)
Armor notes do not exist in RB charts.

When using Star Power, all point values are doubled for the duration that the Star Power lasts.

Armor notes do not ever exist for the bass pedal on any chart.

You multiply a note's value by 1.5x to achieve how much you would get if it was an armor note.

I believe drum sustains are 50 points for every 1 beat under a 4x multiplier.

The multiplier goes up by individual hits instead of notes. It does not matter how many notes are in a single beat, it will still be considered as only one notch on the multiplier.

Star Power

If you are playing on a RB kit then just replace "orange" with "blue" and everything should make sense.

Activating: The following paragraph only applies to World Tour. It does not apply to GH:Metallica or future GH games. First of all, to activate you have to accumulate two phrases of star power and then hit the yellow and orange cymbals nearly simultaneously to activate Star Power. When activating on a yellow or orange note, you must hit the note that is NOT charted before you hit the note that IS charted. If a yellow note is coming down, you must hit the orange and then yellow to activate correctly and vice versa. I've tested this for many hours and every time this statement held true. Your two hits can even be separated by a fairly large margin and it will still activate. Someguy913 originally came up with this theory.

Side Notes On Activating

You cannot activate star power if a yellow and orange note come down together on the same beat.

If a yellow or orange note comes down alone and you activate within that note's timing window it will NOT count under SP, but it will still be counted as a regular hit and an orange flame will come up.

When you activate, you get about 1 or 2 timing window lengths of "free time" to get yourself back in position and to start playing again. There is not a set note amount that is automatically hit for you. There is a certain time length of "free time".

Now, when you use this "free time", the notes that go by the screen will not break your multiplier, but they will not be counted for any points whatsoever (this only applies to World Tour). However, if you do decide to play all of the notes that would be in this "free time", they will be counted as under Star Power. In GH:Metallica the notes that you don't play because of activating Star Power will still count as being hit and will count for points.

Squeezing

Assuming you have read the Star Power section of this FAQ, you should have a pretty good understanding of how Star Power works.

The easiest front-end squeeze to explain is the bass pedal squeeze. You basically activate Star Power directly on beat with the bass pedal and then just hit the pedal a little later than the beat.

It is, however, possible to do a much more complex front-end squeeze by abusing the timing window quite a bit. Say we have a beat that consists of red, yellow, and bass pedal. Normally, if we were to activate Star Power here the red note would just float by, the yellow would be an orange flame, and the bass pedal would be under Star Power and be a blue flame if we were to do the regular front-end squeeze. Instead of just having that red note float by, though, you can quickly move your hands from the cymbals and hit the red and have it count as under SP instead of zero points. The same thing would happen with a blue or green note.

When making paths you have to decide how much you are willing to squeeze to change where your activations are. There are many, many factors that could change what would be the best activation in certain situations. If you need help then feel free to ask.

For back-end squeezing it's the same as it has always been. Just hit the last note(s) as early as you can. You usually will want to end your activations on the most point-filled beats you can find.
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Proud Christian

[someguy913]

The only question I have about this is regarding the "freebie" window. If you activate over a certain note without playing it and the game "gives" the note(s) to you, do they simply not break your streak, or do you receive points as though you had actually played them?

Otherwise, good post. I'm sure it will come in useful once fill-spamming becomes a highly-honed art, as every game mechanic (no matter how ridiculous) inevitably does around here.
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[someguy913]

The only question I have about this is regarding the "freebie" window. If you activate over a certain note without playing it and the game "gives" the note(s) to you, do they simply not break your streak, or do you receive points as though you had actually played them?

Otherwise, good post. I'm sure it will come in useful once fill-spamming becomes a highly-honed art, as every game mechanic (no matter how ridiculous) inevitably does around here.
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[Whitt333]

This seems very hard for fast moving songs like Everlong without missing a combo. (activating it during a drum roll or something.) I wonder if anyone will ever be able to get that good at activating
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[Whitt333]

This seems very hard for fast moving songs like Everlong without missing a combo. (activating it during a drum roll or something.) I wonder if anyone will ever be able to get that good at activating
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[HoorayItsMike]

[HoorayItsMike]

[HoorayItsMike]

Bump for a HUGE update. Everyone needs to read the "Activating" section. This will help you to activate without breaking combo nearly every time as long as you do it right.
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[HoorayItsMike]

Bump for a HUGE update. Everyone needs to read the "Activating" section. This will help you to activate without breaking combo nearly every time as long as you do it right.
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[hydrapower]

I know this isn't 100% related to this guide, but do you have any clue how the Rock Meter works? Is it similar to Rock Band where some colors are worth more? It's weird because on the BRE-type things that are charted (Overkill, Stranglehold), I sometimes plummet into the red, almost failing, and then on some songs I pass with a note percentage in the mid-80's, but I'm pretty sure I was in at least the yellow the whole time. The lowest I have on RB2 is 87% on Teenage Riot, and that's pretty easily attributed to the fact that I miss a lot of the hi-hat run but it's not worth that much. The lowest "normal" song I have is 88% on Shoulder to the Plow and I was down to a centimeter of life on two separate occasions.

It's weird, I don't know how to interpret the Rock Meter in this game.
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[hydrapower]

I know this isn't 100% related to this guide, but do you have any clue how the Rock Meter works? Is it similar to Rock Band where some colors are worth more? It's weird because on the BRE-type things that are charted (Overkill, Stranglehold), I sometimes plummet into the red, almost failing, and then on some songs I pass with a note percentage in the mid-80's, but I'm pretty sure I was in at least the yellow the whole time. The lowest I have on RB2 is 87% on Teenage Riot, and that's pretty easily attributed to the fact that I miss a lot of the hi-hat run but it's not worth that much. The lowest "normal" song I have is 88% on Shoulder to the Plow and I was down to a centimeter of life on two separate occasions.

It's weird, I don't know how to interpret the Rock Meter in this game.
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[HoorayItsMike]

[HoorayItsMike]

[flammablelion]

Optimal will e impossible to get on a song lol. Unless you have someone else to hit YO/BY :P.

[flammablelion]

Optimal will e impossible to get on a song lol. Unless you have someone else to hit YO/BY :P.

[HoorayItsMike]

[HoorayItsMike]

[GRYBOPandRYBOGP]

I have a question. I want to be a professional Beginner Drum player. How should I go about squeezing?
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HellAshes wrote:

Garwood wrote: HungrySanta wrote: The way you spelled Metallica reminds me of the way Lynyrd Skynyrd was spelled on the cover of GH:M originally.. >_> ohh noes! typing error, someone call the police!! Me - "Hello, 911. I'm calling on the behalf of Lynyrd Skynyrd. Neversoft has failed to spell the name correctly on the game, Guitar Hero: Metallica. This will effect their image and possibly reduce sales for the band. I suggest suing the company." Police - "Who the fuck do you think you are? WMG? Get off our line."

[GRYBOPandRYBOGP]

I have a question. I want to be a professional Beginner Drum player. How should I go about squeezing?
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HellAshes wrote:

Garwood wrote: HungrySanta wrote: The way you spelled Metallica reminds me of the way Lynyrd Skynyrd was spelled on the cover of GH:M originally.. >_> ohh noes! typing error, someone call the police!! Me - "Hello, 911. I'm calling on the behalf of Lynyrd Skynyrd. Neversoft has failed to spell the name correctly on the game, Guitar Hero: Metallica. This will effect their image and possibly reduce sales for the band. I suggest suing the company." Police - "Who the fuck do you think you are? WMG? Get off our line."

[lilo95]

[lilo95]

[HoorayItsMike]

[HoorayItsMike]

[GRYBOPandRYBOGP]

I didn't exactly post my question for no reason, you know.
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HellAshes wrote:

Garwood wrote: HungrySanta wrote: The way you spelled Metallica reminds me of the way Lynyrd Skynyrd was spelled on the cover of GH:M originally.. >_> ohh noes! typing error, someone call the police!! Me - "Hello, 911. I'm calling on the behalf of Lynyrd Skynyrd. Neversoft has failed to spell the name correctly on the game, Guitar Hero: Metallica. This will effect their image and possibly reduce sales for the band. I suggest suing the company." Police - "Who the fuck do you think you are? WMG? Get off our line."

[GRYBOPandRYBOGP]

I didn't exactly post my question for no reason, you know.
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HellAshes wrote:

Garwood wrote: HungrySanta wrote: The way you spelled Metallica reminds me of the way Lynyrd Skynyrd was spelled on the cover of GH:M originally.. >_> ohh noes! typing error, someone call the police!! Me - "Hello, 911. I'm calling on the behalf of Lynyrd Skynyrd. Neversoft has failed to spell the name correctly on the game, Guitar Hero: Metallica. This will effect their image and possibly reduce sales for the band. I suggest suing the company." Police - "Who the fuck do you think you are? WMG? Get off our line."

[HoorayItsMike]

[HoorayItsMike]

[GRYBOPandRYBOGP]

But what if I hit the note twice in the time window? Like or + Bass Pedal.

[GRYBOPandRYBOGP]

But what if I hit the note twice in the time window? Like or + Bass Pedal.