GH's usefulness to the music industry (Term Paper)

**HylianHero** · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 4673 Location: Santa Cruz, CA

Well, in my history of rock and roll class, we basically have free reign on what our final term paper is going to be. I've elected to prove that the Guitar Hero/Rock Band business has proven as a revitalization in the interest of "classic rock," and to further my point, I'd like your guys' help. I'd like to gather some information from you guys to use as reference material for my paper. Haven't really decided whether I'm just going to make statistics out of this or what, but I figured the hardcore GH players would be able to help out on a GH-related term paper. Answer these questions as honestly as you can, please. I'm not here to judge that you didn't know Free Bird before playing it in GH2. I'm just here to get some information for my paper

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The more specific you could be with these answers, the better. Thanks guys!
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**CDI** · Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 114 Location: Ohio

Yes, the band that plays They Say in GH5 is the only real example of a band I never heard of before GH.

No really, exact opposite

Yes! I have! GH has influenced which vinyl's I put higher on my lists than others. And because of GH I renewed interest in bands like Bloc Party and A Perfect Circle!

I think I like it being a mix. Perhaps a GH game composed entirely of songs I didn't know from bands I do know?

**Sarg338** · Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 5143

Im probably not the best person for this, but meh.

- Are there songs and/or artists that you had never heard before playing their song in Guitar Hero and grew to like and wanted to play more in-game? If so, what songs are these? A broad answer, but an honest one. 90% of RB2/DLC I've never heard of. I never really listened to radio (and only then a classic rock station) so anything besides Classic rock, I've never heard of.

- Are there songs that you knew before Guitar Hero, but have grown to dislike after playing the song in the game? If so, what songs are these? Not really. All the songs i hate, I never really liked in the first place.

- Have you gone out and bought an album because you heard the song in GH and liked it so much? No.

- Would you prefer a GH game composed of entirely songs that you did not know, or a GH game composed entirely of songs that you knew before playing? (In other words, do you enjoy the aspect of experiencing brand new music or music that you already know and love?) Songs I love. I would always think about how the chart would be like if [insert song here] was in GH. Especially since i love the songs, i KNOW i would play it, instead of investing 60 dollars on a 50/50 chance.
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**shooter21198** · Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 577 Location: Erie PA

1) Artists - An Endless Sporadic, DragonForce, Metallica, The Stone Roses
Songs - any DragonForce song, Love Spreads, (Re Education) Through Labor, Cult of Personality

2) Dislikes, Rock and Roll All Nite maybe the cover killed it, Surrender, Love in An Elevator well most of the Aerosmith songs in the GH/RB series

3) Metallica's ...and Justice for All before GH and RB I was never familiar with Metallica. Strike me down metal gods

4) A game full of 90s rock songs would be fantastic(Third Eye Blind, Sublime etc...)

**soundbarrier4** · Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 892 Location: San Angelo, Texas

One of the big things that affected me was The Beatles Rock Band. I was honestly not that much of a Beatles fan, but after playing TBRB, I gained a huge appreciation for The Beatles and their music and it's made me a fan.

No I haven't gone out to buy an album just because it was in GH/RB, but I have downloaded many songs that I have in GH/RB because I find them to be catchy.

I would prefer a game created based off of music that I already know. Guitar Hero has already created games with music I don't really know and I don't like those games.
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**Cyberwaste** · Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:32 am Post subject:

Are there songs and/or artists that you had never heard before playing their song in Guitar Hero and grew to like and wanted to play more in-game?
There are many songs that fit this example in Guitar Hero 5. Some songs I enjoyed and have grown to love are "Stremeline Woman", "Younk Funk", "Maiden Mother And Crone" (got me back into The Sword). From GHWT, there were "Stillborn", "Obstacle 1" and "Stranglehold". Also enjoyed the work of An Endless Sparodic ("Anything" and "Impulse") who could owe much of their success to Guitar Hero.

Are there songs that you knew before Guitar Hero, but have grown to dislike after playing the song in the game?
Through The Fire And Flames (in GH3), Raining Blood (in GH3)... I can't say anything more really.

Have you gone out and bought an album because you heard the song in GH and liked it so much?
Yes, I bought Tool's Lateralus after hearing "Schism" and "Parabola" in GHWT, as well as Black Label Society's The Blessed Hellride (the album "Stillborn" is on).

Would you prefer a GH game composed of entirely songs that you did not know, or a GH game composed entirely of songs that you knew before playing?
I think finding new music is part of what drives Guitar Hero (as well as rhythm gaming in general) so I think it should stay in the middle; having well known songs mixed with lesser known bands, rather than one or the other.[/b]
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**GregoryZero** · Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 2338 Location: California

- Are there songs and/or artists that you had never heard before playing their song in Guitar Hero and grew to like and wanted to play more in-game? If so, what songs are these?
Yes, this happens to me quite often. Some good examples: pretty much all of the DragonForce songs, A-Punk (Vampire Weekend), Evil (Mercyful Fate), and the entire Peace Sells album.

- Are there songs that you knew before Guitar Hero, but have grown to dislike after playing the song in the game? If so, what songs are these?
Nope, not at all.

- Have you gone out and bought an album because you heard the song in GH and liked it so much?
Yes. Multiple times. Some good examples are Colors by Between the Buried and Me, and Costello Music by the Fratellis.

- Would you prefer a GH game composed of entirely songs that you did not know, or a GH game composed entirely of songs that you knew before playing? (In other words, do you enjoy the aspect of experiencing brand new music or music that you already know and love?)
Like Cyberwaste said, the series thrives on new music, so I'd actually enjoy a game that has a 75% new songs to a 25% of songs that are timeless classics. [/b]
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**ShiftBreaker** · Joined: 17 Jun 2007 Posts: 4708

- Are there songs and/or artists that you had never heard before playing their song in Guitar Hero and grew to like and wanted to play more in-game? If so, what songs are these?

Well, sticking with the recent DLC, Night Ranger. Night fucking Ranger. I'd never heard Sister Christian before the recent RB pack, and, well...I still prefer the 3 songs on the RB pack. To go for more general, established artists who I really like now, there's, to name a few, Megadeth, Aerosmith, Rush, Boston, Steely Dan (GOD Yes), Pearl Jam, Nine Inch Nails, Tom Petty...to name but a few. I do consider Rock Band a better source of things like this, though, with its large DLC schedule and more varied DLC (It's rare to get more than 1 artist's worth of DLC for GH. We need less artist packs, more genre/themed packs.)

- Are there songs that you knew before Guitar Hero, but have grown to dislike after playing the song in the game? If so, what songs are these?

DragonForce went from "Meh" to "God Awful Cheesy Speed Metal" with their inclusion in GH.

Other than that, there is no band in GH/RB history that the word "Dislike" can even be applied to. I like the music in these games a lot.

- Have you gone out and bought an album because you heard the song in GH and liked it so much?

From memory...

Ten (Pearl Jam), Countdown to Ecstacy & Can't Buy A Thrill (Steely Dan. I uh...legally downloaded the rest to listen to while out of money), Greatest Hit...(And 21 Other Pretty Cool Songs) (Dream Theater).

I'm sure there's more, but those ones stand out greatly. I'm also planning to try and import a copy of An Endless Sporadic's new album when I get money, but I might just settle for iTunes instead.

- Would you prefer a GH game composed of entirely songs that you did not know, or a GH game composed entirely of songs that you knew before playing? (In other words, do you enjoy the aspect of experiencing brand new music or music that you already know and love?)

I'd say a 30/70 split, the 30 being what I know and the 70 being something new. The new stuff has generally been good, I wouldn't have discovered bands like TV on the Radio, The 88, Airbourne, etc. without theses games. And the In-House bands are also amazing and every game furthers my love for Bang Camaro. Even the ones without it.

That said, I would like artists I know and songs I'm pretty unfamiliar with by them (Last Child, Can't You Hear Me Knockin', Commotion, etc.), or perhaps songs that were great hits one time and then steadily became forgotten (No Rain, etc.)

That's not to say that I don't want songs and artists I know already, god no. Interpol being in both GHWT and RB2 was pretty amazing to me, and I really hope that we see more soon.
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- Are there songs and/or artists that you had never heard before playing their song in Guitar Hero and grew to like and wanted to play more in-game? If so, what songs are these?
Testament for one, although this particular one has to do with Rock Band and not Guitar Hero. Hope it's still relevant. Never heard anything of theirs before Electric Crown showed up as DLC, and with Souls of Black in RB2 I was sold.

And even though I had heard three songs before, I would have to say Megadeth. Guitar Hero 1's Symphony of Destruction and 2's Hangar 18 moved them from somewhere in the periphery of my musical interest to the center point. I knew they existed, but with GH1 and GH2 I went from kinda disliking Dave's snarling vocals to loving them. For Hangar 18 in particular this was in part due to what I think was a wicked fun note chart. I just loved playing it over and over - which was exactly what I needed to grow to like Megadeth's sound. Perhaps also a testament to the quality of the covers?

- Are there songs that you knew before Guitar Hero, but have grown to dislike after playing the song in the game? If so, what songs are these?
I take it you mean that I liked them or were at least impartial to them before. In that case, no, I can't really think of any. For the songs I had already heard, Guitar Hero has, without exception, made me like them more.

- Have you gone out and bought an album because you heard the song in GH and liked it so much?
Yes. Megadeth's Rust in Peace after hearing Hangar 18 in GH2.

- Would you prefer a GH game composed of entirely songs that you did not know, or a GH game composed entirely of songs that you knew before playing? (In other words, do you enjoy the aspect of experiencing brand new music or music that you already know and love?)
My favorite would probably be a mix of maybe 60% new and 40% known. I like how the GH/RB games expose me to new music and force me to listen, and I've learned about some great bands this way, but for the happy-feeling of pretend-rockstar I also want a game to have a decent selection of artists/tracks I like or even love. This way there's always something I can dive straight into from the get-go and immediately be able to follow the music.

**GenericName** · Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 1630 Location: ¯\(°_o)/¯

- Are there songs and/or artists that you had never heard before playing their song in Guitar Hero and grew to like and wanted to play more in-game? If so, what songs are these?

I have a good bit of this happening all the time - Although most of it happens from Rock Band - Some examples from GH would be the Harmonix bands from the first 2 games, such as Drist, Freezepop, and Bang Camaro. From RB2/DLC, I've grown to love Steely Dan, Testament and Megadeth, among others. The band-centric games have made me interested in those bands also. Beatles:RB has gotten me more interested in the Beatles, and I have gone out and purchased some of their albums, even though I don't even own the game yet.

- Are there songs that you knew before Guitar Hero, but have grown to dislike after playing the song in the game? If so, what songs are these?

This happened with Constant Motion for me, on RB2.

- Have you gone out and bought an album because you heard the song in GH and liked it so much?

I bought a lot of music like this - Megadeth's Rust in Peace, Bang Camaro's self-titled album, Drist's Orchids and Ammunition, A good bit of individual Steely Dan songs on iTunes, a lot of Metallica, and two or three albums of The Beatles, due to B:RB.

- Would you prefer a GH game composed of entirely songs that you did not know, or a GH game composed entirely of songs that you knew before playing? (In other words, do you enjoy the aspect of experiencing brand new music or music that you already know and love?)

As long as it is a main-series game (Such as GH3, GH5, etc.) I woudl like about a 70/30 balance, 70% new music, 30% of stuff I know and love.

I think that covers everything...
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**Kratos** · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 1228

- Are there songs and/or artists that you had never heard before playing their song in Guitar Hero and grew to like and wanted to play more in-game? If so, what songs are these?

Absolutely. Especially in Guitar Hero 1, I remember playing Ace of Spades and going "OH, THAT'S what that song is" and starting to like Motorhead. It also got me to like Pantera, Blue Oyster Cult, hell, I wasn't a HUGE music person before then, and suddenly all this awesome music was hitting me at once. Growing up, I only was exposed to country radio, so I wasn't that aware of other genres. Guitar hero really opened up the world of rock and roll (and later metal) for me.

- Are there songs that you knew before Guitar Hero, but have grown to dislike after playing the song in the game? If so, what songs are these?

Through the Fire and Flames. I had been a major Dragonforce fan years before GH3 came out, this being one of my favorites. Now, of course I was excited it was coming to GH, but now so many people are obsessed with the song, it's lost it's appeal. Likewise, in Rock Band, extremely popular songs such as Dirty Little Secret and All The Small Things, which I used to enjoy listening to, are now so overplayed when I have friends over that I'm sick of them.

- Have you gone out and bought an album because you heard the song in GH and liked it so much?

Bought? No. Downloaded? About 10 GB worth

- Would you prefer a GH game composed of entirely songs that you did not know, or a GH game composed entirely of songs that you knew before playing? (In other words, do you enjoy the aspect of experiencing brand new music or music that you already know and love?)

This is a tough decision. Initially, I want to say a game full of songs I already know. But then I look back and in retrospect see that many of the songs I had never heard of ended up being favorites. Not to enter a fanboy - mode or to take a hit against guitar hero, but this is where I prefer Rock Band's method of DLC, rather than multiple games. What ends up happening is, while you get both a mixture of songs you know and don't know, you are told both the difficulty and genre of the song, so you can know what to look out for.

So ideally, a GH game with something like 2/3 songs I know and love, and 1/3 songs I don't know would be best.

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