2010 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Announced

[Romanczuk]

My friend told me there was some KISS fangroup that has been trying really hard to get KISS inducted for years and they went apeshit when ABBA got inducted in their first year of eligibility.
I just lol'd. This list has become too arbitrary as it aged. Maybe if they kept it REALLY exclusive it would have some relevance, but you can't go around revoking people's placement in a hall of fame. Except for that one baseball player I don't remember.

[Romanczuk]

My friend told me there was some KISS fangroup that has been trying really hard to get KISS inducted for years and they went apeshit when ABBA got inducted in their first year of eligibility.
I just lol'd. This list has become too arbitrary as it aged. Maybe if they kept it REALLY exclusive it would have some relevance, but you can't go around revoking people's placement in a hall of fame. Except for that one baseball player I don't remember.

[Adventurejimbob]

[Adventurejimbob]

[Prong1978]

This is the only thing I know of the Hollies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP94PlEtsEQ

I've wanted this ong for Rock Band/Guitar Hero just because I want to play that intro.

Disagreements regarding the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are no different than in any other hall of fame for the most part.
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[Prong1978]

This is the only thing I know of the Hollies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP94PlEtsEQ

I've wanted this ong for Rock Band/Guitar Hero just because I want to play that intro.

Disagreements regarding the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are no different than in any other hall of fame for the most part.
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[Blehgopie]

[Blehgopie]

[cdylan13]

[cdylan13]

[nflnba88]

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[dabears116]

How can I deny their legacy? I merely claimed it was not as great such that it is absolute blasphemy that they are not in. Anyways, you're support for their legacy was not very relevant. Longevity and sales are not what I had in mind when I was talking about legacy. Either way, do not worry, I advocate Rush being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Also, please, do not talk to me about musical ignorance, I know a lot more about music than you probably think I do right now.

As for prog, Rush made a couple concept/odd-time signature albums, that does not make them a prog band. This is a very common misconception. Rush is progressive in some of their albums, but not in such a way that they can be identified as a prog band. What comes in mind when I think of prog bands are Krautrock, Canterbury Scene bands, rock-oriented fusion bands, and the experimental end of what most identify as prog. For example:

King Crimson
Brand X
Can
Triumvirat
Gong

I guess it does not matter, it's simply a label and is a more liberal term than I originally implied, my point was that in a way Rush is to prog experts as Metallica is to thrash fanatics (in terms of sound).

PS: I do not think Rush raised the bar from a lyrical or technical standpoint, at all. If you had heard any fusion or most forms of prog you'd understand why I say this.
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Some guy at my old school once wore a merzbow shirt to class so we all threw stones at him and kicked him in the head until he died lol

[dabears116]

How can I deny their legacy? I merely claimed it was not as great such that it is absolute blasphemy that they are not in. Anyways, you're support for their legacy was not very relevant. Longevity and sales are not what I had in mind when I was talking about legacy. Either way, do not worry, I advocate Rush being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Also, please, do not talk to me about musical ignorance, I know a lot more about music than you probably think I do right now.

As for prog, Rush made a couple concept/odd-time signature albums, that does not make them a prog band. This is a very common misconception. Rush is progressive in some of their albums, but not in such a way that they can be identified as a prog band. What comes in mind when I think of prog bands are Krautrock, Canterbury Scene bands, rock-oriented fusion bands, and the experimental end of what most identify as prog. For example:

King Crimson
Brand X
Can
Triumvirat
Gong

I guess it does not matter, it's simply a label and is a more liberal term than I originally implied, my point was that in a way Rush is to prog experts as Metallica is to thrash fanatics (in terms of sound).

PS: I do not think Rush raised the bar from a lyrical or technical standpoint, at all. If you had heard any fusion or most forms of prog you'd understand why I say this.
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Some guy at my old school once wore a merzbow shirt to class so we all threw stones at him and kicked him in the head until he died lol

[sean2490]

[sean2490]

[joerod]

[joerod]

[powerman7t]

I agree that the fighting should stop fighting. Music is supposed to bring people together, not cause fights (mostly! ).

Anyways, whether something is pop or rock is the opinion of the person listening to it (although there are unwritten figurative lines in the sand).
For example, Michael Jackson was a talented person who was just as good, if not BETTER than some of the people that was in the Hall of Fame before him (there is a concert version of "Rock With You" on the internet where he holds the last note almost as long as Rob Halford of Judas Priest does on Painkiller - plain f**king amazing! )

Another example is Madonna, same thing with the talent. But she pushed boundaries - read about the Pepsi/Like A Prayer incident or watch the documentary Truth or Dare. There is one part of the documentary where she almost gets arrested for her sexually explicit moves BEFORE getting on stage. What happened on stage was pretty much NC-17 rated, so I will let you watch it to find out. But the point is that she pushed limits and crossed lines that most (NOT ALL) musicians don't dare to push over.

I personally think Rush deserves a position, but we cannot always control what other people think.

Sorry for the length, but quickly:

Genesis - After Peter Gabriel's (yes he was the frontman for Genesis in the early 70s!) departure the music got good. Especially Follow You, Follow Me and up ! Plus Phil Collins is a true legendary solo musician with great songs!

The Hollies - Known for Bus Stop and The Air That I Breathe, included Graham Nash (of future Crosby, Still, Nash, and Young fame) on guitar and vocals (who left in 1968 after the band wanted to record a whole album's worth of Bob Dylan covers).

ABBA - One word - meh!

Jimmy Cliff - WTF is Jimmy Cliff?!?!

That's my two cents, now to listen to Genesis's Turn It On Again.

[powerman7t]

I agree that the fighting should stop fighting. Music is supposed to bring people together, not cause fights (mostly! ).

Anyways, whether something is pop or rock is the opinion of the person listening to it (although there are unwritten figurative lines in the sand).
For example, Michael Jackson was a talented person who was just as good, if not BETTER than some of the people that was in the Hall of Fame before him (there is a concert version of "Rock With You" on the internet where he holds the last note almost as long as Rob Halford of Judas Priest does on Painkiller - plain f**king amazing! )

Another example is Madonna, same thing with the talent. But she pushed boundaries - read about the Pepsi/Like A Prayer incident or watch the documentary Truth or Dare. There is one part of the documentary where she almost gets arrested for her sexually explicit moves BEFORE getting on stage. What happened on stage was pretty much NC-17 rated, so I will let you watch it to find out. But the point is that she pushed limits and crossed lines that most (NOT ALL) musicians don't dare to push over.

I personally think Rush deserves a position, but we cannot always control what other people think.

Sorry for the length, but quickly:

Genesis - After Peter Gabriel's (yes he was the frontman for Genesis in the early 70s!) departure the music got good. Especially Follow You, Follow Me and up ! Plus Phil Collins is a true legendary solo musician with great songs!

The Hollies - Known for Bus Stop and The Air That I Breathe, included Graham Nash (of future Crosby, Still, Nash, and Young fame) on guitar and vocals (who left in 1968 after the band wanted to record a whole album's worth of Bob Dylan covers).

ABBA - One word - meh!

Jimmy Cliff - WTF is Jimmy Cliff?!?!

That's my two cents, now to listen to Genesis's Turn It On Again.

[AGwaG]

[AGwaG]

[Nubnut]

[Nubnut]

[Necromac]

As soon as I saw ABBA my face met my palm...

I don't care how Influential/innovative/whatever other characteristics are used to judge this, how can ABBA be considered Rock n Roll?

(And before pointing me back at the list of pop artists already in; previous mistakes don't excuse future ones)
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[Necromac]

As soon as I saw ABBA my face met my palm...

I don't care how Influential/innovative/whatever other characteristics are used to judge this, how can ABBA be considered Rock n Roll?

(And before pointing me back at the list of pop artists already in; previous mistakes don't excuse future ones)
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<--Thank You karatechess
I ed Jordan... WOOOOOOT, Thanks to lun471k for the kick-ass avitar

[cobainage1994]

I don't know if anyone watches that Metal show. It is on VH1 Classic at night, also available online. But in their first season, Rush was a guest, and Geddy and Alex talked about their feelings towards the rock and roll hall of fame (shame)

http://www.vh1classic.com/view/playlist/1601992/329483/That_Metal_Show_Episode_7_Rush/That_Metal_Show_Episode_7_Part_1/index.jhtml

Basically, they say that if they get inducted, great! If not, whatever.

It is clear, that those who know what they are talking about know that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has become a complete joke and should not be taken seriously. People who know music, know Rush is a very talented band, and in my opinion that should be enough. Rush does not need some joke of a list to say they are a great band in order to be a great band.


Same goes with Maiden, Priest, Motorhead, Deep Purple, UFO. Anyone who knows there stuff, atleast know they are all very talented individuals, and do not need the Rock and Roll hall of fame to say they are great bands.

If you do like classic rock and heavy Metal I would recommend watching That Metal Show. All current episodes are on VH1classic.com. And plenty of Eddie Trunk ranting about the Rock and roll hall of shame and its lack of Kiss, Maiden, Preist and Rush.

[cobainage1994]

I don't know if anyone watches that Metal show. It is on VH1 Classic at night, also available online. But in their first season, Rush was a guest, and Geddy and Alex talked about their feelings towards the rock and roll hall of fame (shame)

http://www.vh1classic.com/view/playlist/1601992/329483/That_Metal_Show_Episode_7_Rush/That_Metal_Show_Episode_7_Part_1/index.jhtml

Basically, they say that if they get inducted, great! If not, whatever.

It is clear, that those who know what they are talking about know that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has become a complete joke and should not be taken seriously. People who know music, know Rush is a very talented band, and in my opinion that should be enough. Rush does not need some joke of a list to say they are a great band in order to be a great band.


Same goes with Maiden, Priest, Motorhead, Deep Purple, UFO. Anyone who knows there stuff, atleast know they are all very talented individuals, and do not need the Rock and Roll hall of fame to say they are great bands.

If you do like classic rock and heavy Metal I would recommend watching That Metal Show. All current episodes are on VH1classic.com. And plenty of Eddie Trunk ranting about the Rock and roll hall of shame and its lack of Kiss, Maiden, Preist and Rush.

[powerman7t]

[powerman7t]