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Matt  





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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, also, if you like bag, get beatmania IIDX 9th style :p
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just need to save up money for a fliptop before I can start messing with that stuff...

Oh yeah, it might also help to not suck at IIDX.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDR has a far less steep learning curve, though :p
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. I think I'ma quit IIDX for good, though.. it's not good for my health.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you arent like my friend who spent about 7 hours straight of playing colors normal, finally passed it, and axekicked his controller, successfully breaking it...Then regretting it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ended up buying extreme 2 this weekend, even though I couldn't find it used anywhere. I am not regretting it, I played it for several hours Saturday and Sunday and even if the timing isn't exactly like the arcade, and even if In the Groove or others are more challenging, it's going to be a long long time (if ever) before I can actually do these songs at the higher levels. Maybe I'm just too old, maybe I don't have the fast twitch muscles necessary, maybe my eyes are just too slow (reading the arrows fast enough is half the problem) but whatever the reason is I only get to 4-5 step songs before I find songs very very challenging.

I was also happy that most of my favorite songs from playing step mania are included on extreme 2. There are only 2 songs that I can think of off the top of my head that I really liked playing on Stepmania that aren't in this one... and i can always play them in stepmania if I really want to play them.

The only thing I don't like is that some of the challenges in dance master mode are just stupid. Most of them are fine, but for example I played one where I had to do 150 steps but none of the steps could be on an actual arrrow. WTF? That's just dumb. Especially with my pad which is very sensitive and it is extremely easy to have other arrows activated when i'm not stepping on them... so they would activate and hit an arrow and fail the challenge for me. I ended up using my hands for it :P I also hate the challenges that only give you 4 misses and consider anything below "great" to be a miss.... I'm just not good enough to do that, even on easy songs my precision isn't perfect enough.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eachann wrote:
The only thing I don't like is that some of the challenges in dance master mode are just stupid.

This is why our DDR club has given this mode the affectionate nickname "Super Retard Mode" (non-PC, I know)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eachann wrote:
The only thing I don't like is that some of the challenges in dance master mode are just stupid.


I wouldn't really know. I stopped in world B after the 1937th "Do slightly better than mediocre on Beginner and Light" mission. They should have let beginners learn in the standard game mode, and made the entire Dance Master mode for experienced players.

I agree that challenges can be downright stupid (I'm speaking from EX experience), although some are okay. The main thing that pissed me off was EX's "Do horribly, but don't fail." missions, where you have to do a Good attack. The game isn't about Good attacking. It's about Perfect/Marvelous attacking. I beat almost every mission in EX's Mission Mode except for 6 Good attack missions (on the standard PS2 controller. I'm not touching Mission Mode with anything worse than a Cobalt Flux, which I don't have).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krimsunmunkeys wrote:
eachann wrote:
The only thing I don't like is that some of the challenges in dance master mode are just stupid.


I wouldn't really know. I stopped in world B after the 1937th "Do slightly better than mediocre on Beginner and Light" mission. They should have let beginners learn in the standard game mode, and made the entire Dance Master mode for experienced players.

I agree that challenges can be downright stupid (I'm speaking from EX experience), although some are okay. The main thing that pissed me off was EX's "Do horribly, but don't fail." missions, where you have to do a Good attack. The game isn't about Good attacking. It's about Perfect/Marvelous attacking. I beat almost every mission in EX's Mission Mode except for 6 Good attack missions (on the standard PS2 controller. I'm not touching Mission Mode with anything worse than a Cobalt Flux, which I don't have).

Yeah, Cobalt Flux for the win. I'm still not touching Missions, on it though. UGH. It pretty much killed Extreme 2 for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreyvas wrote:

Yeah, Cobalt Flux for the win. I'm still not touching Missions, on it though. UGH. It pretty much killed Extreme 2 for me.


Hmm, am I the only one who seem to actually enjoy the missions? I've played around 50/50 between missions and freeplay. I've not completed every mission up to where I am now (which is E-01), mostly enough to unlock new missions. Even on the A and B world I found a few hard challenges, like needing AAA to unlock a sequence of Paranoia missions. I enjoyed some of the challenges, like getting N.G. on every freeze arrow (which means stepping on them, then letting go). The missions also forced me to learn to play at x1, I usually use speed mods to get the scroll speed into my confort zone, which is 300-400 BPM.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed the vast majority of the challenges. My advice for the "stupid" challenges (i.e., don't hit these arrows), is to use a dualshock controller.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Matt.... for the most part I like the challenges. Being not very good I liked starting with very easy challenges and getting tougher and tougher until I hit the point where every song is very challenging for me... and then beating them slowly as I improve. I just hate the "stupid" challenges, I just want to dance the songs... not these goofy invented things, and using a dualshock controller is a pretty good idea for those missions.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stubbscroll wrote:
Dreyvas wrote:

Yeah, Cobalt Flux for the win. I'm still not touching Missions, on it though. UGH. It pretty much killed Extreme 2 for me.


Hmm, am I the only one who seem to actually enjoy the missions? I've played around 50/50 between missions and freeplay. I've not completed every mission up to where I am now (which is E-01), mostly enough to unlock new missions. Even on the A and B world I found a few hard challenges, like needing AAA to unlock a sequence of Paranoia missions. I enjoyed some of the challenges, like getting N.G. on every freeze arrow (which means stepping on them, then letting go). The missions also forced me to learn to play at x1, I usually use speed mods to get the scroll speed into my confort zone, which is 300-400 BPM.

Okay, to be fair:
Missions? Fine, sure.
Being forced to play missions in order to unlock songs to play normally? Not fine at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I recall correctly, songs appear in the shop if you play freeplay enough, and you dont actually need to play mission mode to unlock anything to the shop. Although it is faster.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eachann wrote:
I'm with Matt.... for the most part I like the challenges. Being not very good I liked starting with very easy challenges and getting tougher and tougher until I hit the point where every song is very challenging for me... and then beating them slowly as I improve. I just hate the "stupid" challenges, I just want to dance the songs... not these goofy invented things, and using a dualshock controller is a pretty good idea for those missions.


How do you unlock missions? I'm working on area C right now, but there are a bunch of missions left in area B that I was never able to do... I've done every B mission that was unlocked for me to attempt. I must have to meet some hidden criteria though to unlock others... for example I never saw any mission that required me to get a AAA (lol wish me luck, i've never gotten better than an A.. heh).
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