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Josseppe95
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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directshot999 wrote: | Josseppe95 wrote: | Quote: | The NFL system is completely different from the BCS and allows for regular season losses, which is precisely what I don't want anyways. |
What the fuck DO you want then if you wouldn't have put an undefeated team in the title game then? |
I want conference reorganization where every team has to face roughly equal strength of schedules and I want a 4 team playoff system.
If there is no conference reorganization, and we have an 8 or 16 playoff system, I hope you all will enjoy SEC vs SEC matchups every year lol |
Alright, no argument here. Although, with conference restructuring I have a feeling teams going undefeated will become a MUCH rarer phenomenon. _________________
thecolonel wrote: | Why dont the leaders just get together, get stoned and watch 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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directshot999
Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 3838 Location: Birmingham, AL
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Josseppe95 wrote: | directshot999 wrote: | Josseppe95 wrote: | Quote: | The NFL system is completely different from the BCS and allows for regular season losses, which is precisely what I don't want anyways. |
What the fuck DO you want then if you wouldn't have put an undefeated team in the title game then? |
I want conference reorganization where every team has to face roughly equal strength of schedules and I want a 4 team playoff system.
If there is no conference reorganization, and we have an 8 or 16 playoff system, I hope you all will enjoy SEC vs SEC matchups every year lol |
Alright, no argument here. Although, with conference restructuring I have a feeling teams going undefeated will become a MUCH rarer phenomenon. |
Which will be fine. As long as a 12-0 team from a big time conference isn't in the same bracket as a 10-2 team from the Big East or something, I'm fine with it.
I just want conference restructuring so there will be no more arguments on SOS anymore for polls, you know? _________________
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b.vicious
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 2075 Location: Internet
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I'll be the first to say R.I.P. Joe Paterno. It's such a shame his name had to be associated with all that crap that happened at Penn State. He is still a legend none the less. _________________
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illiniguy
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I still don't think the lung cancer was the true killer here...it was the scandal. All of that shit, and I think he just lost a will to live. He was already having some health issues during the end of his coaching career (pre-scandal) but he fought through it all the same...the scandal killed him. His legacy outweighs the scandal, I think. Rest in peace. |
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krisdaschwab912
Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 6567 Location: UW-Eau Claire
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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RIP, Joe Pa. I never really did feel that Penn State handled Paterno correctly, and regretably this might have had a lot to do with his death. _________________
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directshot999
Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 3838 Location: Birmingham, AL
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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illiniguy wrote: | I still don't think the lung cancer was the true killer here...it was the scandal. All of that shit, and I think he just lost a will to live. He was already having some health issues during the end of his coaching career (pre-scandal) but he fought through it all the same...the scandal killed him. His legacy outweighs the scandal, I think. Rest in peace. |
I agree.
I really feel bad for him. Football was his life, and the scandal wasn't his fault. He did what he was supposed to do, but didn't do more, and he got punished for not doing more.
If anything, I'm sure he needed peace. His death is slightly reminiscent of the Bear's passing after his own retirement. Rest in peace, Joe Pa. _________________
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Josseppe95
Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 1045 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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It's gonna feel so surreal to watch a Penn State game and not see Joe Pa on the sidelines anymore. It still really hasn't fully sunken in that he's dead honestly...
RIP Joe Pa, you will be missed _________________
thecolonel wrote: | Why dont the leaders just get together, get stoned and watch 2001: A Space Odyssey.
then there would be no war. |
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RLKDragon
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 2253 Location: Chicago, IL
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krisdaschwab912
Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 6567 Location: UW-Eau Claire
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:07 am Post subject: |
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And long overdue. _________________
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fUNC
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 3439 Location: Milwaukee
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bclare
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directshot999
Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 3838 Location: Birmingham, AL
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Wow, my last post looks absolutely ignorant. Never expected that from Paterno... _________________
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fUNC
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 3439 Location: Milwaukee
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Anybody else think that the punishments today were worse than the vaunted "death penalty?" The bullet points:
1. $60 million dollar fine
"These funds must be paid into an endowment for external programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims and may not be used to fund such programs at the university"
2. Banned from bowl games for 4 years.
3. Scholarships reduced for 4 years.
4. Students are allowed to transfer and immediately play.
5. Vacated all wins from 1998 to 2011
6. 5 year probation.
7. Investigation of individuals AFTER any criminal procedings are finished.
People were extremely upset when the NCAA announced that the program wouldn't get the death penalty, but I think that this is far, far worse. They learned from the SMU case that shutting the program down entirely effectively killed the school for an entire generation- it was close to 20 years before that team went back to a bowl game. With a massive fine, four-year postseason ban, and losing every win that the school had for the past 13 years, I think that this does a better job of punishing those that were actively involved (again, the current roster can still play against high-level competition).
However, if you're going to call for more severe punishment for the masterminds, what more can you do? Paterno is in the ground, the president and AD are long since fired, fined, and ostracized, and Sandusky will either rot in prison or get shived the second he's in there. Is it unfair to players (including the likes of Larry Johnson and Tambi Hali) who played during that tenure and likely knew nothing about it? Yeah. Is it going to affect what they've done since then? No- and that, I think, is why this does a better job of punishing the institution than the SMU fiasco.
Also, $60 million might seem like a slap on the wrist considering what they take in, but you have to throw in all of the 100-odd civil suits and loss of future revenue too. $60 million is just the rock in the glass that starts the spiderweb... and they can still be investigated further. This also doesn't count the newly announced loss of revenue from the Big 10 itself, which will be around $15 million for the next four years. _________________
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skinnywhitecomic
Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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The thing that catches my ears the most is the sentence uttered by the NCAA President, when he said the "punishment was to make sure that football is never again placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people." We have to remember that football is a game. I have always believed that education is the most important element of a college student's time at a university. Football is an extra curricular activity. Football should always be second to the welfare and the education of students.
No bowl games for four years? Boo-hoo. So they get to play one less football game a year, assuming they earn it. Sorry, I have no sympathy for those upset about this.
Now, the vacating of wins from '98? That I can understand why that doesn't seem fair, since it would appear that many of the people in those years had no idea any of the Sandusky bullshit was going on. And it sucks that it affects Paterno's win record. Not sure I understand the need to punish him further.
Everything else seemed fair to me. And with penalties this severe, hopefully something as egregious as the Sandusky scandal will NEVER happen again. _________________
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Josseppe95
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not entirely sure that the NCAA has real business involving itself with legal matters but in the end it really was necessary to do this to set a precedent. I'm curious to see if Syracuse is gonna get the same treatment though, seems as if everyone's forgotten about them. _________________
thecolonel wrote: | Why dont the leaders just get together, get stoned and watch 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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