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quackadilly  





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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: New Idea. Reply with quote

With the addition of 6 and 7 star rating, JCirri introduced a star numbering system too.

I was thinking it wouldnt be too hard to add an "average" star rating. And I say "average" very loosly. It could be a straight average, weighted by total points %, by total notes %, by either of the two also scaled with the "total possible" star rating for each song.

I would suggest just a straight average rating.

Example:

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Rank   Name         Star
1      ES           7.043
2      Krim         7.044
8      JHetfield    6.730
13     quackadilly  6.681
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Anders  





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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes little sense for krimsunmunkeys to have a higher star rating than ES942. The most consistent definition of total rating would be a simple extension of the definition of per-song ratings: (total score)/(total base score) + 2. (This is equivalent to weighted averaging by base score.)
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quackadilly  





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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I used for those numbers was the average star rating for individual songs.

Not weighted or anything special.


The main reason for the flip flop is this:

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Stars 5  6  7
ES    47 47 28 <-
Krim  47 47 29 <-
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Kronkk37  





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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anders wrote:
It makes little sense for krimsunmunkeys to have a higher star rating than ES942. The most consistent definition of total rating would be a simple extension of the definition of per-song ratings: (total score)/(total base score) + 2. (This is equivalent to weighted averaging by base score.)


The problem with that technique is that songs with a higher base score (like Unsung, CFH, TBW) will be weighted more. If you want a "star average" then you calculate each song's star rating individually first and then calculate the average. I'm not sure if that's what quack did, but that's what I see when he suggests an average.

E.g. Echelar's (13th rank) average star rating my way is 6.698. Your way it is 6.692. So it doesn't make much diffence at the upper echelons. But down a bit further say 195th rank, my way yields 5.709, while yours gives 5.658. So there is a difference.

P.S. I couldn't find it listed anywhere, so I calculated the total base score. It's 2,514,621 if you wanted to test your method a bit Anders.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kronkk37 wrote:
The problem with that technique is that songs with a higher base score (like Unsung, CFH, TBW) will be weighted more.

That's what you want, is it not? Just like the more valuable notes (holds) are weighted more when calculating the rating for a single song, the more valuable songs should be weighted more when calculating an overall rating. Besides, it makes more sense for the rating to be a function of the total score.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I did was take the individual star ratings for each song, add them up and divide by 47.

There really is no need to do anything with total points since the star rating is essential a ratio.
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ScaryAdam  





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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

since we have decimals... shouldn't we use those as well for the star system? so if i have a 5.5 it is worth more than if i were to just have a 5? at least for the star average, i think that would be important.. and that way we could actually see where we stand with all the rest of the people very near us
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those scores included the decimal part of the star ratings.
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