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Barbaloot  





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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the star power path for this song. I got 5th with it last night without any squeezes, so it has to be right.




No need to wait for the third SP phrase - you should already have a full bar from the first two. Also, using SP immediately after the first phrase is a bad idea. Yes, you get an extra activation, but that extra activation contains a whopping 13 notes (and you don't even have a 4x when it starts). Then you can only have about 6 measures of SP during the refrain instead of 8, which is a loss of 24 notes. The holds aren't enough to cover this gap.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks barbaloot, looks good.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barb, why did you use SP over the 3rd phrase?

Surely it would be better to wait until you go those three, then activate immediately after the 3rd, so you can get all of the chorus?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You get a full bar from the 1st two phrases...
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barbaloot, you're path is correct, but just in case people were wondering, you can squeeze all the way to the B on the second to the last activation, and I am relatively positive you can squeeze another G on the last activation.

(figured I'd try to make things fun for league)
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PriestMLH wrote:
You get a full bar from the 1st two phrases...


Yeah, but don't you get extra points from SP active notes? Therefore if you wait, you may not get any SP but you'll get 50 more points per SP active note? Therefore (can't think of any other linking words) won't that allow for more points?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing I can figure you are trying to say is that you get extra points for hitting notes that are part of a SP phrase (and still star-shaped). This is not the case - test it on the beginning of YYZ.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thekovinc wrote:
Barbaloot, you're path is correct, but just in case people were wondering, you can squeeze all the way to the B on the second to the last activation, and I am relatively positive you can squeeze another G on the last activation.

(figured I'd try to make things fun for league)


There is definitely at least 200 left on the last activation. I missed a chord squeeze on the 2nd activation and ended up with 200 less than you (and I missed 400, so do the math). And depending on how much you whammied and how well you squeezed, you can get about a half beat to a full beat of the B hold after the solo.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Friggin' hate this song!! No matter what I do I just can't get the rythem going on the chorus and I tried alt-strumming, and regular strumming, and missing several notes eslewhere doesn't help either I get like 85% and no where near a 5*. I'm screwing this song off for a while and going after other 5*'s.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another technical note about the SP path: If you can squeeze from the first RB chord in measure 26 to the third GY chord in measure 32 with just the previous 2 SP phrases, then it is in fact better to use the first SP phrase separately.

Normal activation (including one chord squeeze): 19600 pts (including multiplier)

Split activation:
First activation (yellow in m12 to orange in m16): 3609 pts (it may be possible to get the green in m12 also, for 3759 pts)
Second activation (first RB in 26 to third GY in m32): 16000 pts
for a total of 19609 pts.

Hitting this squeeze would require getting 10 beats of SP out of the 8.5 beats of SP holds in the second phrase (through a combination of early whammying and squeezing). At this BPM, it may be possible. (However, it may also be possible to squeeze a second chord into the original full-bar activation, effectively getting 8 measures and half a beat in one activation. This would eliminate any hope for the split activation once and for all).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spopt.pl optimized path for tattooedloveboys.mid

File: tattooedloveboys.mid
Solution Path: 2-S1-3-3-1-1
Estimated Base score 64342
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 253002
Estimated SP Score 78600
Estimated Total Score 331602
Activations:
From meas 24.2500 (GY note) to meas 32.3750 (GY note) Score: 20000 ((100.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 58.2500 (GY note) to meas 66.3750 (GY note) Score: 20000 ((100.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 99.3750 (RB note) to meas 107.5000 (RB note) Score: 17400 ((87.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 122.0000 (RB note) to meas 126.2857 (B note) Score: 10400 ((51.0 + 1.0) * 200 )
From meas 147.0000 (G note) to meas 151.3750 (GY note) Score: 10800 ((54.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: spopt2.pl results Reply with quote

spopt2.pl results for "Tattooed Love Boys" (gh2-ps2/expert) generated on 07/20/2007

lazy-whammy (326002) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (328622) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (331402) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (332142) PNG TXT
upper-bound (332202) PNG TXT

KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying

big-squeeze path details
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File: tattooedloveboys.mid
Solution Path: 2-S1-3-3-1-1
Estimated Base score 64295
Estimated 4* cutoff 128590
Estimated 5* cutoff 180026
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 253002
Estimated SP Score 78400
Estimated Total Score 331402
Activations:
#1 From meas 24.2500 (GY note) to meas 32.3750 (GY note) ( 24.3089- 32.3089) Score: 20000 (100.0+ 0.0)*200
#2 From meas 58.2500 (GY note) to meas 66.3750 (GY note) ( 58.3089- 66.3089) Score: 20000 (100.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 99.3750 (RB note) to meas 107.5000 (RB note) ( 99.4349-107.4349) Score: 17400 (87.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 122.0000 (RB note) to meas 126.1429 (Y note) (122.0656-126.1323) Score: 10200 (50.0+ 1.0)*200
#5 From meas 147.0000 (G note) to meas 151.3750 (GY note) (147.0422-151.3089) Score: 10800 (54.0+ 0.0)*200

nearly-ideal path details
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File: tattooedloveboys.mid
Solution Path: 2-S1-3-3-1-1
Estimated Base score 64295
Estimated 4* cutoff 128590
Estimated 5* cutoff 180026
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 253002
Estimated SP Score 79140
Estimated Total Score 332142
Activations:
#1 From meas 24.2500 (GY note) to meas 32.3750 (GY note) ( 24.3089- 32.3089) Score: 20000 (100.0+ 0.0)*200
#2 From meas 58.2500 (GY note) to meas 66.3750 (GY note) ( 58.3089- 66.3089) Score: 20000 (100.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 99.3750 (RB note) to meas 107.5000 (RB note) ( 99.4349-107.4349) Score: 17400 (87.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 122.0000 (RB note) to meas 126.4856 (B sust) (122.0656-126.4856) Score: 10540 (51.0+ 1.7)*200
#5 From meas 150.7500 (RB note) to meas 155.2500 (GY note) (150.7749-155.1844) Score: 11200 (56.0+ 0.0)*200

upper-bound path details
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File: tattooedloveboys.mid
Solution Path: 2-S1-3-3-1-1
Estimated Base score 64295
Estimated 4* cutoff 128590
Estimated 5* cutoff 180026
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 253002
Estimated SP Score 79200
Estimated Total Score 332202
Activations:
#1 From meas 24.2500 (GY note) to meas 32.3750 (GY note) ( 24.2922- 32.2922) Score: 20000 (100.0+ 0.0)*200
#2 From meas 58.2500 (GY note) to meas 66.3750 (GY note) ( 58.2922- 66.2922) Score: 20000 (100.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 99.3750 (RB note) to meas 107.5000 (RB note) ( 99.4182-107.4182) Score: 17400 (87.0+ 0.0)*200
#4 From meas 122.0000 (RB note) to meas 126.5745 (B sust) (122.0823-126.5745) Score: 10600 (51.0+ 2.0)*200
#5 From meas 147.2500 (GY note) to meas 151.7500 (GY note) (147.2490-151.6945) Score: 11200 (56.0+ 0.0)*200

Please post any bugs/questions about these auto-generated paths HERE.
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SaNTeeZY  





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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my least favorite song in the entire game. I can't stand the lyrics, I hate the guitar, it's not fun to play I can barley get to 100k, I hate it. Once i 5 star I wont play this song again, at least not on mute with my Zune on.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: chorus Reply with quote

Samson007 wrote:
I was having trouble 5 starring this song as well.

I realized that my main problem was getting my finger back on the yellow/blue button during the GGGGG GYGY GGGGG GYGY like parts.

As long as you can double strum fast enough at those parts (shouldnt be a problem, and if it is, good luck with misirlou and six) you should be fine.

Not sure if this is the same problem you had, but I 5 starred it my first try once I got that part down


I actually have 4*d misirlou and 5*d six, but Tattooed love boys is a bit slower, and I cant keep a combo on this part... maybe i strum too fast?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate this song, I 5* raining blood but i cant get this ?
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