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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spot2004 wrote:
Looking at the LIVE leaderboards, we are missing a squeeze, possibly in the 2nd activation. I've been trying to get the insane squeeze, but I have yet to grab it.


I'd like to wonder how many of those people with top spots use easy expert? I stopped trying to get 1sts because of this.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy Expert disables online tracking.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like you can easily get another note in the second activation, which is not marked on batsmak's chart. You should have a full bar from the two phrases, so the squeeze should be pretty simple.

I also get that ending 4-S1 gets exactly as many points as ending 2-3, 7950 (not counting the potential ticks in 4-S1).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I went ahead and charted out the optimal path. SP activations are in blue. I didn't mark the double squeezes because it's pretty obvious where they are...There is one for every activation.

On a side note - The activations in the Chorus can be moved around, i just find it easier to activate on the 3 consecutive RB chords.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your last activation is 2 measures too long on the chart. Also, I would recommend 2-2-4 instead of 2-2-2-3 (unless you plan on double squeezing) because it is simpler and has the possibility of extra ticks.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a lot harder to squeeze than I thought to earn the extra 400. I've tried very many times on the 2nd activation.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with the 2-2-4 path i just got 368466, seems like a good path to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I might've gotten lucky and I'm not trying to brag, but the double squeeze for the first activation was a lot easier than I thought it would be. Getting 370,006 only took me less than like 5 or so runs through the song, and most of the times I restarted were because I missed a note....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

munkyzero wrote:
Wow, I might've gotten lucky and I'm not trying to brag, but the double squeeze for the first activation was a lot easier than I thought it would be. Getting 370,006 only took me less than like 5 or so runs through the song, and most of the times I restarted were because I missed a note....

370006 is the score without the double squeezes (I think)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobthefish1 wrote:
munkyzero wrote:
Wow, I might've gotten lucky and I'm not trying to brag, but the double squeeze for the first activation was a lot easier than I thought it would be. Getting 370,006 only took me less than like 5 or so runs through the song, and most of the times I restarted were because I missed a note....

370006 is the score without the double squeezes (I think)


This. 370,006 is the score you get with the optimal path without any double squeezes. The double squeezes on this song aren't hard to actually squeeze out, but it's hard to make the timing window not just move onto the next note with the squeezes. 371,606 is optimal, which is 1600 more than no squeeze. This means a double squeeze on ever activation. Haha. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HylianHero wrote:
bobthefish1 wrote:
munkyzero wrote:
Wow, I might've gotten lucky and I'm not trying to brag, but the double squeeze for the first activation was a lot easier than I thought it would be. Getting 370,006 only took me less than like 5 or so runs through the song, and most of the times I restarted were because I missed a note....

370006 is the score without the double squeezes (I think)


This. 370,006 is the score you get with the optimal path without any double squeezes. The double squeezes on this song aren't hard to actually squeeze out, but it's hard to make the timing window not just move onto the next note with the squeezes. 371,606 is optimal, which is 1600 more than no squeeze. This means a double squeeze on ever activation. Haha. Good luck.


Wait, isn't the first activation in the 370,006 path a double squeeze? Lol I actually don't even know the definition of double squeeze.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got 370,006 six times in a row; hyper-speed 5 enabled, REALLY pushing those squeezes. Doubting that anything higher is possible, and if so this is really easy to optimal. Might still fire this up every once in a while to try to smash it; if I see some proof that any of those double squeezes are even possible then it is on.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abomstar wrote:
Got 370,006 six times in a row; hyper-speed 5 enabled, REALLY pushing those squeezes. Doubting that anything higher is possible, and if so this is really easy to optimal. Might still fire this up every once in a while to try to smash it; if I see some proof that any of those double squeezes are even possible then it is on.


There are people who already have higher than 370,006, so it is indeed not optimal.

EDIT: Nvm, I found it. So double squeeze means squeezing in two notes outside of your SP.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a video of a 370,006 run for anyone who's having trouble with their path.

GH3 - Prayer Of The Refugee 100% FC 370,006
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barbaloot wrote:

I also get that ending 4-S1 gets exactly as many points as ending 2-3, 7950 (not counting the potential ticks in 4-S1).


Since there is another activation in the 2-3 ending, wouldn't that mean that u could get more points for squeezing (or double squeezing) both activations of the 2-3 ending?
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