ScoreHero
Home | Forum | Wiki
Inbox [ Login ]Inbox [ Login ]
SearchSearch MemberlistMemberlist
ProfileProfile Log inLog in
Why "READ THE STICKIES" fails.
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ScoreHero Forum Index -> Website Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
EWiggen  





Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 868

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Why "READ THE STICKIES" fails. Reply with quote

Feel like you've been here a while? Feel like your knowledge of Scorehero is vast? Feel like preying on some "N00BZ", so people will think you know what you're talking about- leading to an exponential increase in E-peen?

Bad news. You're a prime candidate for "RTSNS" , which stands for "READ THE STICKIES, N00B (SYNDROME)". The symptoms of this disease are somewhat varied, but ususally boils down to this:

1. A new person makes a post.
2. It is apparent that they don't know much about Guitar Hero and/or Scorehero.
3. In your infinite wisdom, you deem it necessary to post the following: "READ THE STICKIES"
4. You think to yourself "I've done a good deed. They'll go read the stickies now, and the forums will be better! Maybe I'll be promoted to MOD someday!"

Unfortunately for you, the "N" in RTSNS does not apply to the new person in #1. It actually applies to you. You see, it is very probable that you don't know exactly what you're saying when you say "READ THE STICKIES." Allow me to demonstrate.

I have taken the time to go through ALL of the stickies. It's no easy task. Originally, I was going to try to copy/paste all the posts in all the stickies into a single word document- but I quickly decided that it would be an absurd undertaking. Instead, I copy/pasted the FIRST POST from all of the stickies into a Microsoft Word document, and ran a "Word Count." These are the results.

Website discussion:
12,234 words
32 pages

Bug Reports
258 words
2 pages

Official GH news
10,744 words
29 pages

Technique, Style, and Gameplay
26,213 words
63 pages

*****
597 words
2 pages

Rivalries
1167 words
6 pages

Leagues
12,848 words
41 pages

Misc. Game Discussion
11477 words
49 pages

Hardware
5,823 words
18 pages

Software
34,601 words
99 pages

General Chat
1449 Words
4 pages

Totals:
117,411 words
345 pages



You'll notice I left a couple of forums out. This was because they had either too few stickies (or none at all), or they were filled with meaningless lists (custom songs subforum). I didn't intend for this to be an overly exact count, but a reasonable estimation for the amount of info contained in the "Stickies".

For comparison, there are approximately 770,000 words in any given Bible. Take out a Bible, and try to guesstimate about 1/7th of it. Pretty hefty chunk of reading, eh? You bet it is. The average novel is less than 100,000 words.

The average person reads about 250 words per minute. This calculates to about 470 minutes, or a little under 8 hours of SOLID READING.

Now, think for a minute. Do you think your previous advice of "READ THE STICKIES" is going to do any good? No. It will simply send them on a wild goose chase, and give them a negative impression of our community (which is *incredible* for the most part.) You might as well tell somebody asking for directions to your house "GO GET A MAP, N00B." In reality, it works much better if you simply point them in the right direction.

The best cure for RTSNS is a little bit of perspective. I hope that this has given you some. Rather than to tell you NOT to post, though, I have provided a better transcript of what should occur:

1. A new person makes a post.
2. It is apparent that they don't know much about Guitar Hero and/or Scorehero.
3. In your infinite wisdom, you deem it necessary to post the following: "Hi! Welcome to Scorehero. HERE is a link to a relevant sticky. Also, you might want to try this sticky.
Hope that helps!
4. You think to yourself "Boy, I'm glad EWiggen spared me from the wrath of the mods! I'm sure happy to be a helpful part of the Scorehero community!"

Once these steps start happening, congratulations! You should be cured of RTSNS.
_________________
Having trouble with the Scorehero search engine? Try SCOREHERO SEARCH, powered by Google.
www.ewiggen.com is my website.
Grilled cheese sandwich party rule.


Last edited by EWiggen on Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:40 pm; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Wiki User Page Send private message
bloodrose  





Joined: 04 Dec 2007
Posts: 78
Location: joliet, IL

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so very true and good advice for peple with RTSNS (made me lol a bit)
_________________
WWW.callofduty4tournaments.com

go there and join in the fun
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website XBL Gamertag: D3thlakon
bananaman300  





Joined: 30 Oct 2007
Posts: 386
Location: Marshfield, MA

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that would be the nicest way to do it, but that runs close to saying something like
bananaman300 wrote:
I think the mods and admins usually check thankyous in this thread:
http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23290

I don't get how double posts happened in the first place

which is one of the things I posted that got my forums rank sent down to rocker. for some reason
_________________
Stoofen <3

Twitter:
@blargg56
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Wii Friend Code: 150438651868
thecaptainof  





Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 7571
Location: ¯\(°_o)/¯

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is particularly true of the Software forum where there's a multitude of sticky topics about different things. Someone asking a basic question on how to make a custom disc will often be told to read the stickies when, in actuality, there's really only one they need to read to get themselves started and most of the others can be read later as their knowledge develops and they want to move onto different facets of customisation.

Therefore I'd propose that people don't automatically tell new members to read the stickies, rather it ought to be more like "This topic is what you're looking for (insert link), also you might want to at least glance at the titles of the sticky topics to make yourself aware of what else is available in this field".
_________________


yksi-kaksi-kolme wrote:
Wow Mr. Mad, who fucked your buffalo?
Back to top
View user's profile Wiki User Page Send private message
Brockbfball1563  





Joined: 29 Apr 2007
Posts: 3245
Location: Rochester, NH

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the most usefull and most needed topics I've seen in a while. Yes, it gets frustrating seeing the same topics over and over again, but it's not that difficult to post the link that will answer their question. They will get their answer and the mods will then lock the topic.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Wiki User Page Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website XBL Gamertag: vVv Brock
goldengoal7  





Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 1355
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this is a great topic. Awesome job. Hopefully everyone reads this. (also made me lol a little)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail XBL Gamertag: xGoldenx7
sukergod  





Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 3437
Location: Newfoundland, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a very good point and is the prime reason that whenever a new person comes to the site, I always point them in the right direction instead of being an ass.

A good question though is how many people have actually read through ALL the stickies. Like you said its a daunting task. I generally tend to read up on the ones that are relevent to what im looking for, but to remember them all is alot.
_________________
Carey_Price___5_Mai_by_devils80.jpg
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
xSergeantMINORx  





Joined: 06 Jun 2007
Posts: 1656
Location: Fremont, CA

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well composed, EWiggen.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger XBL Gamertag: SgtMinorSH PSN Name: Sergeant Minor Wii Friend Code: 103209449267
jscott1324  





Joined: 12 Aug 2007
Posts: 750
Location: Southeast MO

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bananaman300 wrote:
I agree that would be the nicest way to do it, but that runs close to saying something like
bananaman300 wrote:
I think the mods and admins usually check thankyous in this thread:
http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23290

I don't get how double posts happened in the first place

which is one of the things I posted that got my forums rank sent down to rocker. for some reason


lol, You should have read the stickies. jk, jk

anyways, this is a great "guide"(I don't know what else to call it) I think threads like these just help the scorehero world to be a better, more friendly place. Thank you, OP.

-jscott1324
________
VAPORIZER WIKI


Last edited by jscott1324 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:53 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Wiki User Page Send private message Visit poster's website XBL Gamertag: merman38
bballcenter7  





Joined: 09 Jul 2007
Posts: 1313
Location: in IN

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion EWiggen is one of the most eloquent (if you can call it that) posters on SH. Very nice guide to people who post to quickly without thinking first. I myself have had many times where I am typing paragraphs and then think "why am I writing this at all?" and press the delete button.

Oh, and that post you had about the budding poets at SH? priceless.
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gotsmack  





Joined: 01 Apr 2007
Posts: 1693
Location: Manassas, VA

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xSergeantMINORx wrote:
Well composed, EWiggen.


Agreed.

I personally find it more frustrating to see someone post this than actually reading a repeat topic. It's more of a form of forum policing than acutally helping someone.

All members need to remember that a question is asked because the answer isn't known. If you have the answer, share it. If you don't have the answer, these topics are not post +1 topics and you should avoid them. You aren't doing yourself or the thread creator any good.
Back to top
View user's profile Wiki User Page Send private message XBL Gamertag: Mojoe50
ImmortalX  





Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Posts: 392
Location: Massachusetts

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that irks me more than the same questions being asked over and over are the people that tell them they're stupid for asking. Great guide/cure.
_________________
Drunken Javery Mann: If we can put a man on the moon, we can put a man on the sun. We can put all the men in the world on the sun. There'll be a textile factory there, with wings. Inside that are all the women of the world. On the outside, there's an inch-long chain that attaches that textile factory to the one with the men in it. All 3 million of them. And then we will colonize the sun and make little communities. Because if we can put a man on the moon, then obviously we can do this.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Crononaut  





Joined: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 484
Location: St. John's, NL

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea this is great, I hate seeing people merely say "read the stickies", it's like oh good, my beloved SH is becoming another condescending noob-bashing site, which it isn't, which is why I love this place.

I think, like thecaptainof said, it could be advisable to direct them to the thread they need, then mention to glance at the stickies in the future to try and find what they're looking for first.

Another one that really irks me is the "the search button is your friend (insert sarcastic emoticon here, e.g. )". Yes, they need to learn to use the search button. No, you don't have to be such a dick about it.
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MasterBlaster  





Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Posts: 720
Location: Florida

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I was very fortunate in this area. One of my first post was some n00b question, about what FC meant or custom songs or something. I got a few "read the stickies/use the search button" posts, then some mod came in, gave me the link and killed the thread.

If that hadn't happened, I wouldn't have hung around and made around 300-odd posts right now.

It's very important to give good information to new people, or they'll leave-and they might have became new mods or huge contributors.

I'mmm gonna go help someone.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
JetsterDajet  





Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Posts: 718
Location: Norcal

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two words: Quality. Control.


The ridiculous amount of stickies in the Software forum is an effective countermeasure to weeding out people who would otherwise make shitty charts.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ScoreHero Forum Index -> Website Discussion All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum




Copyright © 2006-2024 ScoreHero, LLC
Terms of Use | Privacy Policy


Powered by phpBB