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siavashinkttx  





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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Beliefs Reply with quote

Do you have any beliefs? They can religion, culture, or anything else.

I became a vegan last year after seeing a cow get struck on the road, then learning about it getting slaughtered on the news. I'm also an atheist.

Any other vegetarians or vegans out there?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I BELIEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE that the color of the state flag of Alabama should be primer!
(Yay Larry the Cable Guy reference)


I have a friend who's also a vegan and an atheist, small world. I myself am an avid meat-eater, and religiously, I guess I'm an agnostic, leaning towards atheism (although I've been raised in a devout Lutheran household).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a vegetarian, but i'm sure as hell not an atheist.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe in God and Jesus and The Bible, but I'm sure a lot of people do anyways. I'm not trying to flame you or invoke an argument, but would you feel different if the cow was humanely executed and used for food and other purposes?

Also, I'm not trying to backseat mod here or anything, but I hope this thread doesn't turn into a huge "This god is real, no this one is real, you're wrong, why don't you prove it!" kind of thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toastloving wrote:
I believe in God and Jesus and The Bible, but I'm sure a lot of people do anyways. I'm not trying to flame you or invoke an argument, but would you feel different if the cow was humanely executed and used for food and other purposes?

Also, I'm not trying to backseat mod here or anything, but I hope this thread doesn't turn into a huge "This god is real, no this one is real, you're wrong, why don't you prove it!" kind of thing.

1. Even if the cow got drugs then killed, it would have no different outcome than the previous incident.
2. It won't
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am human; therefore I have beliefs.

I dare you to try to have no beliefs; the logical paradox will make your head explode.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rkcr wrote:
I am human; therefore I have beliefs.

I dare you to try to have no beliefs; the logical paradox will make your head explode.

For a guy with beliefs, you sure don't like typing them do you?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a catholic but not a practical one (by that I mean I rarely go to church.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the sun should never set upon an argument
I believe we place our happiness in other people's hands
I believe that junk food tastes so good because it's bad for you
I believe your parents did the best job they knew how to do
I believe that beauty magazines promote low self esteem
I believe I'm loved when I'm completely by myself alone

I believe in Karma what you give is what you get returned
I believe you can't appreciate real love until you've been burned
I believe the grass is more greener on the other side
I believe you don't know what you've got until you say goodbye

I believe you can't control or choose your sexuality
I believe that trust is more important than monogamy
I believe that your most attractive features are your heart and soul
I believe that family is worth more than money or gold
I believe the struggle for financial freedom is unfair
I believe the only ones who disagree are millionaires

I believe in Karma what you give is what you get returned
I believe you can't appreciate real love until you've been burned
I believe the grass is more greener on the other side
I believe you don't know what you've got until you say goodbye

I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness
I believe that wedded bliss negates the need to be undressed
I believe that God does not endorse TV evangelists
I believe in love surviving death into eternity

I believe in Karma what you give is what you get returned
I believe you can't appreciate real love until you've been burned
I believe the grass is more greener on the other side
I believe you don't know what you've got until you say goodbye

...for the sake of not getting myself involved in another 'lol religion lol' argument.
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N.T.F.  





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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

<=== vagitarian
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecaptainof wrote:
I believe the sun should never set upon an argument
I believe we place our happiness in other people's hands
I believe that junk food tastes so good because it's bad for you
I believe your parents did the best job they knew how to do
I believe that beauty magazines promote low self esteem
I believe I'm loved when I'm completely by myself alone

I believe in Karma what you give is what you get returned
I believe you can't appreciate real love until you've been burned
I believe the grass is more greener on the other side
I believe you don't know what you've got until you say goodbye

I believe you can't control or choose your sexuality
I believe that trust is more important than monogamy
I believe that your most attractive features are your heart and soul
I believe that family is worth more than money or gold
I believe the struggle for financial freedom is unfair
I believe the only ones who disagree are millionaires

I believe in Karma what you give is what you get returned
I believe you can't appreciate real love until you've been burned
I believe the grass is more greener on the other side
I believe you don't know what you've got until you say goodbye

I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness
I believe that wedded bliss negates the need to be undressed
I believe that God does not endorse TV evangelists
I believe in love surviving death into eternity

I believe in Karma what you give is what you get returned
I believe you can't appreciate real love until you've been burned
I believe the grass is more greener on the other side
I believe you don't know what you've got until you say goodbye

...for the sake of not getting myself involved in another 'lol religion lol' argument.

Where'd you copy/paste that from.JK. I'm atheist, but not blashphemist
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm..I'm mostly agnostic but I enjoy the Buddhist culture of peace and the such and because Buddha is a badass but then again a Rastafarian lifestyle doesn't seem too bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to sound pessimistic, but nine times out of ten an atheist will start an 'lol you believe in God' argument.

I myself have very secular beliefs, as the internet has showed me how little I care for any form of religion, be it atheism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, or any of the other minor religions. All I really see it doing for me is starting a bunch of arguments and I don't like arguing, I like debating. "Lol you believe in God!" and "Well then explain such-and-such a situation!" arguments don't do much for me.

I also believe that 90% of the internet is mentally challenged from some of the posts I read on this website (not hinting to you OP, this is an honest topic. )
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

siavashinkttx wrote:
rkcr wrote:
I am human; therefore I have beliefs.

I dare you to try to have no beliefs; the logical paradox will make your head explode.

For a guy with beliefs, you sure don't like typing them do you?


You asked, "Do you have any beliefs?" I answered the question. I can answer the other question, too - yes, there are other vegetarians/vegans out there.

I had some good discussion a few weeks ago with members of SH on the subject of expressing beliefs and opinions on forums and chat rooms. We all basically came to the consensus that forums are a terrible place to express one's opinions, because the medium makes it much more difficult to communicate in general. For example, I bet most people who read this paragraph just skimmed it (though now you're going back and reading it. Or don't, just to spite me).
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that this thread will not end well.


Quote:
I'm atheist, but not blasphemer.
(Fixed your spelling =)

In any case, those two don't possibly go together. According to the Christian faith (which is where blasphemy has its origins), denouncing God is an act of blasphemy. Nice try, though.
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