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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: GH:WT estimated cutoffs, expert Reply with quote
Based on pairs of scores and multipliers, I've tried to estimate the cutoffs for vocals. It seems that the base score is 500 * number of phrases. I haven't found any elements that add to the base score. Crowd sections and freestyle sections contribute 0 to the base score as far as I've observed.

For each song, I've used the following method to find an estimate for the cutoff:

1. Play the song, write down the score and multiplier
2. Plug all the data into a small computer program I wrote, which calculates the following:

- Base score = score / multiplier, round to nearest 500, display rounding error
- Note streak = base score / 500
- Cutoff 4* = Base score * 2.0
- Cutoff 5* = Base score * 2.8 (always an integer when base score is a multiple of 500)

Here's the estimates:

Code:
                           base   4*     5*   fc
songname                  score cutoff cutoff ns
------------------------ ------ ------ ------ --
feelthepain               12000  24000  33600 24
overkill                   9500  19000  26600 19
nosleeptillbrooklyn       28000  56000  78400 56
doitagain                 16500  33000  46200 33
ramblin'man               14000  28000  39200 28
uparoundthebend           19500  39000  54600 39
aboutagirl                15500  31000  43400 31
theoneilove               11000  22000  30800 22
you'regonnasayyeah!       22000  44000  61600 44
whati'vedone              11500  23000  32200 23
screamaimfire             24500  49000  68600 49
mr.crowley                14000  28000  39200 28
crazytrain                21000  42000  58800 42
freakonaleash             22500  45000  63000 45
prisonerofsociety         24500  49000  68600 49
stillborn                 12000  24000  33600 24
trappedunderice           16000  32000  44800 32
parabola                  20500  41000  57400 41
schism                    23000  46000  64400 46
vicarious                 31500  63000  88200 63
somemightsay              20000  40000  56000 40
beautifuldisaster         20000  40000  56000 40
areyougonnagomyway        16500  33000  46200 33
dammit                    13000  26000  36400 26
eyeofthetiger             26000  52000  72800 52
heyman,niceshot           18500  37000  51800 37
hotelcalifornia           29000  58000  81200 58
thejoker                  21000  42000  58800 42
loveremovalmachine        30500  61000  85400 61
hotforteacher             21000  42000  58800 42
santeria                  19000  38000  53200 38
obstacle1                 23000  46000  64400 46
mountainsong              20000  40000  56000 40
today                     20000  40000  56000 40
rebelyell                 37000  74000 103600 74
ontheroadagain            13500  27000  37800 27
heartbreaker              22000  44000  61600 44
bandontherun              26000  52000  72800 52
stranglehold              18000  36000  50400 36
lovemetwotimes            21000  42000  58800 42
rooftops(aliberation      26500  53000  74200 53
prettyvacant              22000  44000  61600 44
monsoon                   29500  59000  82600 59
aggro                     19000  38000  53200 38
themiddle                 21000  42000  58800 42
everlong                  17000  34000  47600 34
assassin                  12000  24000  33600 24
miserybusiness            24500  49000  68600 49
goyourownway              18500  37000  51800 37
hollywoodnights           28500  57000  79800 57
lazyeye                   14500  29000  40600 29
lovespreads               33000  66000  92400 66
nuvoleelenzuola           30500  61000  85400 61
weaponofchoice            23000  46000  64400 46
labamba                   14500  29000  40600 29
spiderwebs                37000  74000 103600 74
americanwoman             28000  56000  78400 56
sweethomealabama          22500  45000  63000 45
thewindcriesmary          10000  20000  28000 20
purplehaze                23500  47000  65800 47
floaton                   18000  36000  50400 36
hailtothefreaks           17500  35000  49000 35
vinternoll2               12500  25000  35000 25
souldoubt                 19000  38000  53200 38
toomuch,tooyoung,to       17500  35000  49000 35
kickoutthejams            19000  38000  53200 38
thekill                   21500  43000  60200 43
ourtruth                  20500  41000  57400 41
escueladecalor            15500  31000  43400 31
demolitionman             19000  38000  53200 38
livingonaprayer           31500  63000  88200 63
onewayoranother           23500  47000  65800 47
shiver                    25500  51000  71400 51
antisocial                26000  52000  72800 52
re-educationthroughla     21000  42000  58800 42
b.y.o.b.                  28000  56000  78400 56
l'vial'viaquez            25500  51000  71400 51
beatit                    27000  54000  75600 54
onearmedscissor           27000  54000  75600 54
toyboy                    31500  63000  88200 63
goodgod                   21000  42000  58800 42
nevertoolate              27000  54000  75600 54
pullmeunder               24000  48000  67200 48


I haven't done any research on lower difficulties. It could be as easy as different base scores per phrase (100, 200, 300, 400).

The cutoffs above are consistent with all non-5* vocals scores submitted so far by the top 6 or so players, except with two of HylianHero's scores (Never too late and Escuela de calor). It could be because of typos from his side, or typos in my data, which were typed in manually as I played.

I'd appreciate any feedback whether the above data is correct or wrong. I hope this can be of help in determining the exact cutoffs.

EDIT 1: Fixed cutoffs for two songs
EDIT 2: Decided to proof one song manually, to check my estimates.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not to bad, a pretty good estimate man.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for the info.. I've been wondering what the Vocal cutoffs were.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So then the formula for determining extended ratings from avg. multiplier would be:
rating = (average multiplier - 2) / 0.8 + 4

For example, a 13.575x on About a Girl is worth
(13.575 - 2) / 0.8 + 4 = 18 stars.

And the formula for determining extended ratings from score would be:
rating = (score / base score - 2) / 0.8 + 4

Can someone check my math?

I thought these would be useful because so many huge scores are appearing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
think13 wrote:
So then the formula for determining extended ratings from avg. multiplier would be:
rating = (average multiplier - 2) / 0.8 + 4

For example, a 13.575x on About a Girl is worth
(13.575 - 2) / 0.8 + 4 = 18 stars.

And the formula for determining extended ratings from score would be:
rating = (score / base score - 2) / 0.8 + 4

Can someone check my math?

I thought these would be useful because so many huge scores are appearing.


Your math is correct. It would be an estimated 18.5 stars
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