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HoorayItsMike
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: The Unofficial Drum (WT and RB Kits) SP Discussion Thread |
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AdamTL7 originally began a thread about drum SP discussion. I PMed him about continuing to update the OP in his thread and yet to have gotten a response. If he wants to continue his thread at any time then he has the full right to and this thread can be locked, deleted, etc.
I will assume that posted paths are for the WT charts. Please note if they are for RB to avoid confusion.
This thread is for discussing, posting, requesting, and suggesting optimal SP paths for any difficulty for the drums in WT.
Blank Drum Charts: Thank you tma!
There are the exact same amount of notes in a RB chart as there are in a WT chart.
Scoring
(Numbers in parentheses represent scores at 4x Multiplier)
[Numbers in brackets represent armor note scores at 4x Multiplier]
World Tour Drum Kit Charts
Bass Pedal: 75 points (300)
Orange Cymbal: 60 points (240) [360]
Red/Yellow/Green/Blue Pads: 50 points (200) [300]
RB1, RB2, Ion Kit Charts
Bass Pedal: 75 points (300)
Red/Yellow/Green/Blue: 50 points (200)
Armor notes do not exist in RB charts.
You multiply a note's value by 1.5x to achieve how much you would get if it was an armor note.
Armor notes do not ever exist for the bass pedal on any chart.
I believe drum sustains are 50 points for every 1 beat under a 4x multiplier.
The multiplier goes up by individual hits instead of notes. It does not matter how many notes are in a single beat, it will still be considered as only one notch on the multiplier.
When calculating scores, remember that when you activate SP on a yellow/bass pedal beat, the yellow note will NOT count under SP and the bass pedal will. This same thing goes for a orange/bass pedal beat.
When translating charts from WT charts to RB charts, the formula goes as follows:
Red-->Red
Yellow-->Yellow
Blue-->Blue
Orange-->Blue
Green-->Green
When there is a BO beat on a World Tour kit, it turns into a GB beat on a Rock Band kit.
The Paths
The paths are listed as they are in guitar career, not drums.
USA - Psh Psi Kappa
Livin' On A Prayer
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
About A Girl (Unplugged)
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Mountain Song
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Sweden - Wilted Orchid
Beautiful Disaster
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Obstacle 1
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
The One I Love
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Poland - Bone Church
Some Might Say
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Today
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
What I've Done
Easy: WT kit - Cabanon | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit - Predator | RB kit
Hong Kong - Pang Tang Bay
Band On The Run
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
You're Gonna Say Yeah
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Up Around The Bend
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
No Sleep Till Brooklyn
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Los Angeles - Amoeba Records
The Joker
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit - ElementOfZero | RB kit
Freak On A Leash
Easy: WT kit - ElementOfZero| RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit - Tagrineth | RB kit
Misery Business
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Hotel California
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
USA - Tool
Parabola
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Schism
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Vicarious
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Lousiana - Swamp Shack
Eye Of The Tiger
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Spiderwebs
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
One Way Or Another
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Do It Again
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Stillborn
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
The Pacific - Rock Brigade
The Middle
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Hey Man Nice Shot
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Feel The Pain
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Dammit
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit - Tagrineth | RB kit
Everlong
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Kentucky - Strutter's Farm
Heartbreaker
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
American Woman
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Ramblin' Man
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Go Your Own Way
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Stranglehold
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Los Angeles - House of Blues
L'Via L'Viaquez
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Kick Out The Jams
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Santeria
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
On The Road Again (Live)
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Love Me Two Times
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Tahiti - Ted's Tiki Hut
Monsoon
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Aggro
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Rooftops (A Liberation Broadcast)
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Good God
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
One Armed Scissor
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
England - Will Heilm's Keep
The Kill
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Shiver
Easy: WT kit - ElementOfZero | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Rebel Yell
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Demolition Man (Live)
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Beat It
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Canada - Recording Studio
Lazy Eye
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Too Much, Too Young, Too Fast
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Float On
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Nuvole E Lenzuola
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Pretty Vacant
Easy: WT kit - ElementOfZero | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
San Francisco - AT&T Park
Are You Gonna Go My Way
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Sweet Home Alabama (Live)
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Assassin
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Escuela de Calor
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
The Wind Cries Mary
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Purple Haze (Live)
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Australia - Telsa's Coil
Toy Boy
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Hail To The Freaks
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
VinterNoll2
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Hollywood Nights
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Soul Doubt
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Germany - Ozzfest
Love Removal Machine
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Our Truth
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Antisocial
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Prisoner Of Society
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Mr. Crowley
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Crazy Train
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
New York - Times Square
Re-Education (Through Labor)
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
La Bamba
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Scream Aim Fire
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Overkill
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Trapped Under Ice
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
B.Y.O.B.
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit - killermonkey | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Hot For Teacher
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Asgard - Sunno's Chariot
Love Spreads
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Never Too Late
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Weapon Of Choice
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Pull Me Under
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit | RB kit
Satch Boogie
Easy: WT kit | RB kit
Medium: WT kit | RB kit
Hard: WT kit | RB kit
Expert: WT kit - Tagrineth | RB kit _________________
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ELeiser17
Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Posts: 278 Location: Binghamton, NY
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Is this thread specifically for just the GHWT drum set? _________________
ELeiser17: there will be tons i wont beat
FreeXBird: youll beat them
FreeXBird: if you don't by march 2nd, 2010, I will personally put "I am the biggest retard" in my signature permanantly, and personally put $10 in your paypal |
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TheRaw
Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 779 Location: On my throne.
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Looks like it is. If that's the case, someone should make one for the Rockband charts. _________________
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HoorayItsMike
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 1604 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:59 am Post subject: |
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ELeiser17 wrote: | Is this thread specifically for just the GHWT drum set? |
It can be for both. I'll make another set of song names dedicated for it. I didn't think we'd be getting a whole lot of RB paths without charts for them but I suppose it would be pretty similar paths. I'll add a RB section. _________________
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ElementOfZero
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Yey, I can finally steal other peoples' paths now.
See the thing is, I would love to keep 1sts places....So it's a vicious trade-off posting my own.
But, I'm curious if my Joker path is optimal, so I'll start it off by posting:
The Joker X _________________
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quade92
Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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ElementOfZero, your path is extremely close to optimal. I just had a good look at the path you've posted and followed it ..Kinda..
The first SP activation is perfect, but the second is a little too late, i activated the last SP earlier than what you have posted and got first place on The Joker. Just play around a little with the last SP. Btw the score i got is 255,435.
All the same, thanks for the path
P.S. I'm really not good with drawing SP paths etc or I would submit a few of my own paths that got me 1st-5th place |
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ElementOfZero
Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 2270 Location: Lake Park, Georgia
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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quade92 wrote: | ElementOfZero, your path is extremely close to optimal. I just had a good look at the path you've posted and followed it ..Kinda..
The first SP activation is perfect, but the second is a little too late, i activated the last SP earlier than what you have posted and got first place on The Joker. Just play around a little with the last SP. Btw the score i got is 255,435.
All the same, thanks for the path
P.S. I'm really not good with drawing SP paths etc or I would submit a few of my own paths that got me 1st-5th place |
I got 256,255... I don't see how to move that last activation. If you try and catch the orange notes, you're missing out on a lot more on kick drums, and if you just shift it slightly, you don't gain or lose anything.
The only way to pick up extra notes is to push it back to the second +kick and hope to squeeze in that , which I don't think it's possible in this low of a BPM song--or at all.
I'll try it later today, I have to re-solder my red pad
edit: okay, fixed the drums and just scored 256,532. I may have just missed that fill at the end. I tried getting the , but there's no way...
I'm going to say this is optimal, save for drum-ticks. _________________
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Predator
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 111 Location: Sweden, BorĂ¥s
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Here is my path for What I've done on expert.
Don't think it's optimal but it brought me to the first place on PS3 leaderboards.
What I've Done Expert _________________
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ElementOfZero
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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tips on that path, is move each activation to the next +bass and they will all end on the next +bass
and the activation at the drum fill lasts until the next +bass _________________
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Ieattables
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 56
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at these two videos: RB and WT, it seems that in WT gets charted as , which makes sense. Just to complete the information on RB drums. _________________
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HoorayItsMike
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 1604 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Ieattables wrote: | Looking at these two videos: RB and WT, it seems that in WT gets charted as , which makes sense. Just to complete the information on RB drums. |
Alright thanks. _________________
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Whitt333
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1535 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Such a long line... maybe you should combine them, and have it link to either GHWT or RB.
Example:
(Song):
Easy - GHWT - RB
Medium - GHWT - RB
Hard - GHWT - RB
Expert - GHWT - RB _________________
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HoorayItsMike
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 1604 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Whitt333 wrote: | Such a long line... maybe you should combine them, and have it link to either GHWT or RB.
Example:
(Song):
Easy - GHWT - RB
Medium - GHWT - RB
Hard - GHWT - RB
Expert - GHWT - RB |
I entirely agree. I'll get on that. I wasn't exactly sure how to go about doing it. Thanks. _________________
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TheGrudge93
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Would it count against you if you hit both symbols at the same time in order to activate SP when you hit one symbol like your supposed to? If not, I can get cracking on these things right away, if so, it's gonna be a while until I get started.
Also, looking at it, it appears that the drum holds are right. 50 pts. per beat according to the OP. |
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HoorayItsMike
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 1604 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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TheGrudge93 wrote: | Would it count against you if you hit both symbols at the same time in order to activate SP when you hit one symbol like your supposed to? If not, I can get cracking on these things right away, if so, it's gonna be a while until I get started.
Also, looking at it, it appears that the drum holds are right. 50 pts. per beat according to the OP. |
To answer your question directly (as long as I'm understanding it correctly), yes, you can activate if just a single yellow or orange note is coming down by itself or with a bass pedal. However, the note will not be counted under SP. If there was a bass pedal on that same beat then you would count that under SP.
If you have any other questions, then I would check out my other thread and hopefully they can be answered. If they aren't answered then just ask in that thread and I'll get back to you. _________________
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