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HoorayItsMike

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: The Unofficial Drum (WT and RB Kits) SP Discussion Thread

AdamTL7 originally began a thread about drum SP discussion. I PMed him about continuing to update the OP in his thread and yet to have gotten a response. If he wants to continue his thread at any time then he has the full right to and this thread can be locked, deleted, etc. I will assume that posted paths are for the WT charts. Please note if they are for RB to avoid confusion. This thread is for discussing, posting, requesting, and suggesting optimal SP paths for any difficulty for the drums in WT. Blank Drum Charts: Thank you tma! There are the exact same amount of notes in a RB chart as there are in a WT chart. Scoring (Numbers in parentheses represent scores at 4x Multiplier) [Numbers in brackets represent armor note scores at 4x Multiplier] World Tour Drum Kit Charts Bass Pedal: 75 points (300) Orange Cymbal: 60 points (240) [360] Red/Yellow/Green/Blue Pads: 50 points (200) [300] RB1, RB2, Ion Kit Charts Bass Pedal: 75 points (300) Red/Yellow/Green/Blue: 50 points (200) Armor notes do not exist in RB charts. You multiply a note's value by 1.5x to achieve how much you would get if it was an armor note. Armor notes do not ever exist for the bass pedal on any chart. I believe drum sustains are 50 points for every 1 beat under a 4x multiplier. The multiplier goes up by individual hits instead of notes. It does not matter how many notes are in a single beat, it will still be considered as only one notch on the multiplier. When calculating scores, remember that when you activate SP on a yellow/bass pedal beat, the yellow note will NOT count under SP and the bass pedal will. This same thing goes for a orange/bass pedal beat. When translating charts from WT charts to RB charts, the formula goes as follows: Red-->Red Yellow-->Yellow Blue-->Blue Orange-->Blue Green-->Green When there is a BO beat on a World Tour kit, it turns into a GB beat on a Rock Band kit. The Paths The paths are listed as they are in guitar career, not drums. 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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject:

Is this thread specifically for just the GHWT drum set? _________________ ELeiser17: there will be tons i wont beat FreeXBird: youll beat them FreeXBird: if you don't by march 2nd, 2010, I will personally put "I am the biggest retard" in my signature permanantly, and personally put $10 in your paypal

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Looks like it is. If that's the case, someone should make one for the Rockband charts. _________________ Check out my band at http://www.myspace.com/indecemberwefall

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:59 am Post subject:

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Is this thread specifically for just the GHWT drum set?

It can be for both. I'll make another set of song names dedicated for it. I didn't think we'd be getting a whole lot of RB paths without charts for them but I suppose it would be pretty similar paths. I'll add a RB section.
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:17 am Post subject:

Yey, I can finally steal other peoples' paths now. See the thing is, I would love to keep 1sts places....So it's a vicious trade-off posting my own. But, I'm curious if my Joker path is optimal, so I'll start it off by posting: The Joker X _________________ The Choice Is Yours, And Yours Alone. Silver Snakes 4 Life My Accomplishment Thread! My Youtube, New Videos posted often

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:19 pm Post subject:

ElementOfZero, your path is extremely close to optimal. I just had a good look at the path you've posted and followed it ..Kinda.. The first SP activation is perfect, but the second is a little too late, i activated the last SP earlier than what you have posted and got first place on The Joker. Just play around a little with the last SP. Btw the score i got is 255,435. All the same, thanks for the path P.S. I'm really not good with drawing SP paths etc or I would submit a few of my own paths that got me 1st-5th place

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ElementOfZero, your path is extremely close to optimal. I just had a good look at the path you've posted and followed it ..Kinda..
The first SP activation is perfect, but the second is a little too late, i activated the last SP earlier than what you have posted and got first place on The Joker. Just play around a little with the last SP. Btw the score i got is 255,435.
All the same, thanks for the path

P.S. I'm really not good with drawing SP paths etc or I would submit a few of my own paths that got me 1st-5th place

I got 256,255... I don't see how to move that last activation. If you try and catch the orange notes, you're missing out on a lot more on kick drums, and if you just shift it slightly, you don't gain or lose anything.

The only way to pick up extra notes is to push it back to the second

+kick and hope to squeeze in that

, which I don't think it's possible in this low of a BPM song--or at all.

I'll try it later today, I have to re-solder my red pad

edit: okay, fixed the drums and just scored 256,532. I may have just missed that fill at the end. I tried getting the

, but there's no way...

I'm going to say this is optimal, save for drum-ticks.
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Here is my path for What I've done on expert. Don't think it's optimal but it brought me to the first place on PS3 leaderboards. What I've Done Expert _________________ PS3 TROPHIES

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tips on that path, is move each activation to the next +bass and they will all end on the next +bass and the activation at the drum fill lasts until the next +bass _________________ The Choice Is Yours, And Yours Alone. Silver Snakes 4 Life My Accomplishment Thread! My Youtube, New Videos posted often

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Looking at these two videos: RB and WT, it seems that

in WT gets charted as

, which makes sense. Just to complete the information on RB drums.
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Looking at these two videos: RB and WT, it seems that

in WT gets charted as

, which makes sense. Just to complete the information on RB drums.

Alright thanks.

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Such a long line... maybe you should combine them, and have it link to either GHWT or RB. Example: (Song): Easy - GHWT - RB Medium - GHWT - RB Hard - GHWT - RB Expert - GHWT - RB _________________ My Accomplishment Thread

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Such a long line... maybe you should combine them, and have it link to either GHWT or RB.

Example:

(Song):
Easy - GHWT - RB
Medium - GHWT - RB
Hard - GHWT - RB
Expert - GHWT - RB

I entirely agree. I'll get on that. I wasn't exactly sure how to go about doing it. Thanks.

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:25 am Post subject:

Would it count against you if you hit both symbols at the same time in order to activate SP when you hit one symbol like your supposed to? If not, I can get cracking on these things right away, if so, it's gonna be a while until I get started. Also, looking at it, it appears that the drum holds are right. 50 pts. per beat according to the OP.

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Would it count against you if you hit both symbols at the same time in order to activate SP when you hit one symbol like your supposed to? If not, I can get cracking on these things right away, if so, it's gonna be a while until I get started.

Also, looking at it, it appears that the drum holds are right. 50 pts. per beat according to the OP.

To answer your question directly (as long as I'm understanding it correctly), yes, you can activate if just a single yellow or orange note is coming down by itself or with a bass pedal. However, the note will not be counted under SP. If there was a bass pedal on that same beat then you would count that under SP.

If you have any other questions, then I would check out my other thread and hopefully they can be answered. If they aren't answered then just ask in that thread and I'll get back to you.
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