Don't Hold Back FC Help please- Hitting the Phazers

**akeller4265** · Joined: 26 Dec 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Plymouth, MN

Ok, so I have 66 full combos in Guitar Hero 3. This song is the last one I have to go before Raining Blood and I still am not at all consistent with either of the Phazers. If anyone has any techniques that may help me/people who have fc'd the song before, please give your advice.

I don't know if it is at all weird that I have fc'd the Way It Ends before this, but I feel that I could fc that 5 more times before getting Don't Hold Back. Help me with this please!!
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**pman5595** · Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:23 am Post subject:

Hello, I can't be of much help, as I have not FC'ed the song, but I did notice that you are a new poster, so I would like to welcome you to this wonderful community. I recommend reading these threads:

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**UndeadFil13QC** · Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:39 am Post subject:

There's nothing much to do except being lucky to hit both Phazers in the same run.

Anyway, to hit them I suggest not strumming too fast (strum at TTFAF speed) during the groups of 2, and then speed up in the long streak of greens/oranges, and slow down again. Make sure to change frets at the right time.

The method you probably shouldn't try, because it's painful, is using every single HO/PO. I've tried it, it works, but OWWWW. Poor right arm.
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**GHAddict** · Joined: 19 Feb 2008 Posts: 1718

Well, I have *technically* FC'd this song, but it was what some would call a "lolFC"--meaning that there was very little consistency/practice involved, it just... happened. So, take my words into consideration, give it a shot, but take them lightly--they are not concrete.

In all honsety, I just kinda spammed my strumming.

The huge timing window lets you abuse it, but the fact is, that strumming is pretty damn fast (~17.1 nps?). Maybe it's just me, but... I was strumming really, really fast and never broke combo. I'm not sure what to tell you exactly. I'm not sure if it's important, but just note that the strumming there is all in triplets--6 notes to a beat, even though they're grouped in 2's.

As for the fretting, I suggest changing frets earlier than you would think to, DEFINITELY not later (unless you're using the HO/POs, but that goes against my above statement. If you wanna try it that way, sure, but it's not what I'm getting at). It's general, really: Spam strum and go down and back up the scale. Believe it or not, the strumming is actually very linear, despite its appearence.

My apologies for not being able to offer any more advice, there really wasn't a whole lot that went into mine. I hope this can be a little food for thought, though, and maybe it did some good. Good luck!!

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**Fannypack** · Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 840 Location: concentration camp

I strum kinda slow (lolnou not real slow but yesh) then i strum fast if you know what I mean
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**ThunderAlex** · Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:53 am Post subject:

Heh, there actually IS a method to get consistent. The first phazer ends like this:

Now, normally, if you start on a downstrum, you'll end on an up-strum if you strum through the whole thing. But do NOT do that! Strum it all except these last 4 green notes! There, you should use the first Ho/Po, and do a quick gallop (DUD).

The same goes for the second phazer. It ends on:

And if you're strumming it all, you'll end on an up-strum. Instead, use the last orange Ho/Po and down-strum the last orange. Takes some time to learn, but once you get consistent it'll be easy to FC the song. Good luck

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**snowyporpoise** · Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 1655 Location: Burlington, ON

Strum slower then you think, Fret faster then you think. And figure out which strum it ends and starts on.
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**snowyporpoise** · Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 1655 Location: Burlington, ON

^^^ I dont see how it could be easier, especially with the gh3 engine. That is pretty much a little slower version of Ballroom Blitz.
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**lordvader178** · Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 298

I only just FCed this song about 2 hours ago, and now i can hit the Phazers everytime. The key is to not stop strumming through the whole thing, and making sure you put your finger down as soon as the next colour reaches the circle. Before and not after. I uploaded a video as well oh both Phazer FC's and my strumming hand, so you can get a hint of how fast you should strum. If you want the link, just ask.
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**this1neguy** · Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 5444 Location: Flint, MI

DHB is a REALLY hard FC. I've practiced the Phazers over and over and over and not learned any solid method to FC either. I guess my best advice would be to practice Phazer II more than I, because it's harder (for some reason, though the speeds are the same ... I would say it's due to nerves) and to figure out where your up and downstrums are. Both end on a downstrum if you strum straight through, but you have to be careful, because if you strum too slowly you'll end up having a hammeron register and will overstrum at the end due to that or will overstrum right where the hammeron is.
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**Pas26** · Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Posts: 3664 Location: Québec, Canada

Using the HOPOs is very hard. However, with some practice you can "feel" the right strumming speed to strum what you want, and end on a down-strum (or up if you prefer). FCed this 3 times, including twice in random run (and I guess in a row, but they was a pretty long time between them). I could make a vid of me hitting Phazer 1 5 times in a row if you want, oddlyuneven.

Almost forgot: I prefer to slow my strumming down at the end of phazer 2 and use a couple of HOPOs. Practice Phazer 2, get semi-consistent then get a lucky run with Phazer 1 (It's at the beginning of the song so just restart if you miss). And if you feel like it you could gallop the last 3 greens of P1. You can just strum until the last HOPOs, then do a quick gallop (d-u-d).
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**Bradmasta** · Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 2276 Location: Virginia

i strummed it all fast actually o.O i have a video showing how i strummed it though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDzjMXkvZ2k
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