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ElementOfZero
Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 2270 Location: Lake Park, Georgia
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Funny, I just FCed Love Me Two Times on drums for a video. I can tell you it's not Tier 6 with those songs. Ridiculously overrated, dunno how that slipped by people in that thread. Agreed about the rest of the instruments, though. _________________
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Thirdkoopa
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 1041
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: |
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ElementOfZero wrote: | Funny, I just FCed Love Me Two Times on drums for a video. I can tell you it's not Tier 6 with those songs. Ridiculously overrated, dunno how that slipped by people in that thread. Agreed about the rest of the instruments, though. |
LMTT Seems about in top 30's-35's or so of hardest FC's On drums to me (Seems like there needs to be a FC Breakdown for drums to determine some of this stuff)...Higher than what It's ranked as for the band. I'm suprised it slipped through this thread the entire time.
I'd say about 60-65 or somewhere around in this. Everyone else? _________________
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ElementOfZero
Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 2270 Location: Lake Park, Georgia
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:58 am Post subject: |
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I can't see it getting above 50, everything above that I believe is definitely harder than it. Especially above 60. _________________
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Thirdkoopa
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 1041
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: |
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ElementOfZero wrote: | I can't see it getting above 50, everything above that I believe is definitely harder than it. Especially above 60. |
After re-looking, somewhere around the low 50's or high 40's seems good for it. Def needs to be up at least a few spots. from where it is (God, looking at it now there's quite a lot of difficult songs to OMB due to 'hi this is easy but this other instrument is hard)
Also Q Off of randomly looking at this: Why is Do It Again so high? The solo's are okish in difficulty, the bass/vocals are pretty easy; Can't quite say drums. _________________
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ElementOfZero
Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 2270 Location: Lake Park, Georgia
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Thirdkoopa wrote: |
Also Q Off of randomly looking at this: Why is Do It Again so high? The solo's are okish in difficulty, the bass/vocals are pretty easy; Can't quite say drums. |
Agreed, Do It Again down (way up unless vocals are hard, which breakdown says they're like 9th) It should ranked around 25 at most.
Beat It still needs to be moved up, despite easy bass and drums. The guitar and vocals warrant it moving down a bunch of spots.
Some Might Say has three VERY easy instrument FCs and ranked around top 10 easiest on vocals. It needs to be moved down a lot. _________________
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Pas26
Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Posts: 3664 Location: Québec, Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thirdkoopa wrote: | Pas26 wrote: | Beat it, and that's another song with only one hard instrument |
2* You have the pretty chokeable purple notes on guitar AND The vocals.
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You got it wrong.
What I tried to say:
#1: SB drums are nowhere near Beat it drums
#2: that another song with only one hard instrument shouldn't be ranked under SB.
I guess the (,) was misleading.
EDIT: SAF should be right under Crazy Train. SAF Drums are harder, and IMO, the guitar is also harder. Idk about bass and vox.
Hollywood Night should go up, and a lot. Bass is extremely hard to sightread, sure, but it's not very hard after 5 minutes of practice. IIRC guitar is easy, and drum is annoying. There is no way that this is harder than SAF... _________________
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Thirdkoopa
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 1041
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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@ElementOfZero: Agreed on all of those.
Pas26 wrote: | Thirdkoopa wrote: | Pas26 wrote: | Beat it, and that's another song with only one hard instrument |
2* You have the pretty chokeable purple notes on guitar AND The vocals.
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You got it wrong.
What I tried to say:
#1: SB drums are nowhere near Beat it drums
#2: that another song with only one hard instrument shouldn't be ranked under SB.
I guess the (,) was misleading.
EDIT: SAF should be right under Crazy Train. SAF Drums are harder, and IMO, the guitar is also harder. Idk about bass and vox.
Hollywood Night should go up, and a lot. Bass is extremely hard to sightread, sure, but it's not very hard after 5 minutes of practice. IIRC guitar is easy, and drum is annoying. There is no way that this is harder than SAF... |
BEAT IT HAS TWO HARD INSTRUMENTS GET IT RIGHT. (Seriously vocals and guitar are both insane)
And SB Should be ranked higher, but so should beat it. Have you not seen how high they are on vocals/guitar breakdowns? :/
I agree about SAF. _________________
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Pas26
Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Posts: 3664 Location: Québec, Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thirdkoopa wrote: | @ElementOfZero: Agreed on all of those.
Pas26 wrote: | Thirdkoopa wrote: | Pas26 wrote: | Beat it, and that's another song with only one hard instrument |
2* You have the pretty chokeable purple notes on guitar AND The vocals.
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You got it wrong.
What I tried to say:
#1: SB drums are nowhere near Beat it drums
#2: that another song with only one hard instrument shouldn't be ranked under SB.
I guess the (,) was misleading.
EDIT: SAF should be right under Crazy Train. SAF Drums are harder, and IMO, the guitar is also harder. Idk about bass and vox.
Hollywood Night should go up, and a lot. Bass is extremely hard to sightread, sure, but it's not very hard after 5 minutes of practice. IIRC guitar is easy, and drum is annoying. There is no way that this is harder than SAF... |
BEAT IT HAS TWO HARD INSTRUMENTS GET IT RIGHT. (Seriously vocals and guitar are both insane)
And SB Should be ranked higher, but so should beat it. Have you not seen how high they are on vocals/guitar breakdowns? :/
I agree about SAF. |
I SAID TWO DIFFERENT THING! Completely unrelated >_> I know about Beat it vox _________________
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UndeadFil13QC
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 3386 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Stone Cold Crazy at #12 is a pure mistake. It has one of the hardest vocals in the game, and the weirdest drum chart I've ever seen (which is why I only got 3 stars).
Also, I don't understand how All Nightmare Long can be so down there in the list. Guitar and Bass are not even that hard, and Drums are also very feasible. To me, the hardest OMB FC in GHM is by far War Ensemble.
Overall, for both GHWT and GHM, I can hardly agree with most of the list. It just doesn't make much sense to me at some point. _________________
ULTIMATE GOAL: FC Im The One on GH: Van Halen Expert Guitar
Solo 2A FC Count: 39 (Best runs: many -1s, three outro chokes and two 100% overstrums!)
Side goals: GH Expert Vocals Full Series FC [4/8] | Rock Band Expert Bass Full Series FC [8/9] | COVID Vaccine & Booster 100% FC [4/4]
47| 64| 30| 70| 41| 86| 49| 48| 85| 46| 93| 42 ( 10| 65| 10)
Full Series Total: 701/702 ( 786/787) |
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ace5993
Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 1920
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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I changed some of the GHWT breakdown, will edit the GHM breakdown tomorrow. I still really don't think Satch should be moved into the 70's, but if every one else disagrees... |
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Adventurejimbob
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 537
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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EDIT: Used each of the FC Breakdowns for each instrument to calculate this. This should be as accurate as it can get, with a little variation based on skill set.
GHWT OMBFC Breakdown
1. What I’ve Done- 2
2. About A Girl (Unplugged)- 6.5
3. The One I Love- 9.75
4. Too Much, Too Young, Too Fast- 14.75
5. Up Around the Bend- 15.25
6. Today- 18.25
7. Band On the Run- 19
8. Some Might Say- 20.75
(tied) Monsoon
10. No Sleep Till Brooklyn- 21.25
11. Eye of the Tiger- 22.5
12. Aggro- 22.75
(tied) On the Road Again
14. Float On- 23
15. Pretty Vacant- 23.75
(tied) Rooftops (A Liberation Broadcast)
17. Beautiful Disaster- 24.25
18. Vinternoll2- 24.5
19. Hail to the Freaks- 25
20. The Joker- 25.5
21. The Middle- 25.75
22. You’re Gonna Say Yeah!- 26.75
23. Stillborn- 29.25
24. Hotel California- 29.5
25. Re-Education Through Labor- 30
26. Weapon of Choice- 30.75
27. Obstacle 1- 31.25
28. Go Your Own Way- 33.75
29. Livin’ On A Prayer- 34.5
30. Shiver- 35
31. Are You Gonna Go My Way- 36.75
32. Do It Again- 37.75
33. Freak on a Leash- 38
34. Nuvuole E Lenzuola- 38.25
35. Rebel Yell- 39.5
36. Beat It- 40
(tied) Everlong
(tied) Hey Man, Nice Shot
39. La Bamba- 40.5
40. Feel The Pain- 41
41. Mountain Song- 42
42. The Wind Cries Mary- 42.25
(tied) Lazy Eye
44. Ramblin’ Man- 42.75
45. Escuela De Calor- 44
46. Misery Business- 44.5
47. American Woman- 44.75
48. Good God- 45.25
49. One Way Or Another- 45.5
50. Dammit- 46.5
51. Santeria- 47.75
52. The Kill- 48.5
53. Toy Boy- 49
54. Sweet Home Alabama- 49.5
55. Prisoner of Society- 50.25
56. Our Truth- 51
57. One Armed Scissor- 52.75
(tied) Love Spreads
59. Mr. Crowley- 53
60. Antisocial- 53.75
61. Spiderwebs- 54.5
62. Heartbreaker- 55.5
63. Hollywood Nights- 56.5
64. Assassin- 57.25
65. Scream Aim Fire- 58.25
66. Love Me Two Times- 59
67. Kick Out the Jams- 60
68. Overkill- 60.5
69. Schism- 61.75
70. Crazy Train- 62
71. Never Too Late- 62.25
72. Trapped Under Ice- 62.75
73. Love Removal Machine- 63.5
(tied) Pull Me Under
75. Satch Boogie- 65.66667
76. Parabola- 65.75
77. Soul Doubt- 67
78. Demolition Man- 67.5
79. L’Via L’Viazquez- 69.5
80. B.Y.O.B- 70.25
81. Hot For Teacher- 70.5
82. Vicarious- 70.75
83. Stranglehold- 73
84. Purple Haze- 74.25 |
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ElementOfZero
Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 2270 Location: Lake Park, Georgia
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: |
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I Lol'd at Hey Man, Nice Shots placement.
and L'via is too far down IMO. The vocals CAN'T be that hard compared to some of the instrument FCs above it.
Out Truth that far down also? G+B are push overs, drums aren't bad. Granted it's relatively high on the list, but its basically three points with a double bass kick.
Stuff like Scream Aim Fire need to go down. 3 hard FCs and one annoying one on bass. _________________
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Sulfurus
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 700 Location: Swindon, England.
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: The OMB breakdown reference (GHWT+GHM breakdown complete |
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I really cannot understand the NSTB ranking.
ace5993 wrote: |
GH:World Tour
1. What I've Done - Very easy on all four instruments
2. No Sleep Till' Brooklyn - Vocals is the only all-talky song in the game; but the guitar is very hard
3. About a Girl - Nothing hard here
4. On the Road Again - Drums are stupid, everything else is stupidly easy
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Just as a direct example, you're saying a song with 1 Very Hard instrument is easier than a song with nothing hard? It should be ranked much more difficult. _________________
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llamaman2
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 957
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Band on the Run is not tricky on drums and the other 3 instruments are easy FC's. It should be in the top 5, not 16th. |
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