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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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People take performance enhancing drugs and get past it, so therefore Usain must be on them.


There is someone I know who competed in track and field in the olympics, and took steroids for 10 years. He says literally EVERYONE back then was on them. The thing is, if everyone else is doing them, you don't have a chance unless you do them too. He was friends with Ben Johnson, who had to give up his record because he was busted.

However, I don't think Usain is on them. He just seems like too genuine of a person from what I have heard from my jamaican friend who met him in Jamaica (Long story, but it is 100% legit, he has pictures with him). He just has a build that is completely built for speed. In Jamaica, track and field is literally a national event. People skip school to watch the national championships. If it was found that he was on drugs it would be a complete national disgrace.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt about drugs. He has gotten by the tests, so its fine with me! He is such an amazing person to watch.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the last 1:30 or so of this video. He's always been dominating, even at age 15. I highly highly doubt he would already be on steroids or performance enhancing drugs at age 15. He's just freakishly good
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/08/how-fast-can-a-human-ulitimately-run-is-a-50-second-100-meters-possible-.html

awesome article about bolt will answer any questions about steroids and human limits.

He's got the height of a distance runner but the quick twitch muscel fiber of a sprinter. He's simply built for the job.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that same ESPN video, they also said that he was suffering with a GROIN PROBLEM throughout all 4 rounds of competition. So now we can say "what time can he run without a groin problem?" This guy is a complete beast.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

retop56 wrote:
In that same ESPN video, they also said that he was suffering with a GROIN PROBLEM throughout all 4 rounds of competition. So now we can say "what time can he run without a groin problem?" This guy is a complete beast.


that was someone else. I forget the name...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hes a robot.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

retop56 wrote:
In that same ESPN video, they also said that he was suffering with a GROIN PROBLEM throughout all 4 rounds of competition. So now we can say "what time can he run without a groin problem?" This guy is a complete beast.


That was Gay with the groin problem...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamesw wrote:
He just has a build that is completely built for speed.


He's actually kind of an oddity when it comes to sprinting because he's about 5-7" taller than most past 100 and 200 sprinting champions. The fastest sprinters usually range between 5'10" and 6'0"... 6'5" is almost unheard of.

Michael Johnson: 6'0"
Maurice Green: 5'9"
Shawn Crawford: 5'11"
Tyson Gay: 5'11"
Ben Johnson: 5'10"

The list goes on... that's one of the things that really shocks me about
Usain.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been researching this astonishing feat since he did it.

I dont think at all that he is on any illegal performance enhancing drugs. usually the target of PEDs are faster muscle twitch. but if you watch him run against other sprinters, his legs move at nearly 25% slower than all the other runners. his full-speed strides are just over 9 feet between each footfall. usually sprinters are somewhere bewteen 6-8 feet. combine this with his surprising start strength and you get the recipe for incredible speed. if he could somehow move his legs at the same speed as tyson gays, with bolts start speed and leg length, i dont think theres any doubt he could get into the low 9s. Gay took 46 steps to get the 100m, while bolt only takes 41.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think his height won't really let him get that kind of leg turnover.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't the height help? Longer stride = more distance?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

turbo wrote:
Wouldn't the height help? Longer stride = more distance?
yea but he won't be able to make them faster is what the problem is
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

killermonkey wrote:
turbo wrote:
Wouldn't the height help? Longer stride = more distance?
yea but he won't be able to make them faster is what the problem is


I don't think it matters if his legs are going any faster, the longer stride will definitely cover more ground.

If you take a step every .5 seconds while running, the longer stride HAS to win.

If someone was 500 ft tall and could take the entire 100yards in 1 stride, pretty sure he's going to win. (It's a drastic example, but it makes sense)

[edit] Longer strides would also mean less work per stride if you were to run at the same speed as everyone else. If you put in the same amount of effort, you should go farther.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

turbo wrote:
killermonkey wrote:
turbo wrote:
Wouldn't the height help? Longer stride = more distance?
yea but he won't be able to make them faster is what the problem is

Counter Arguement
I meant same stride but a faster paced same stride.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to believe that he's legit, but nobody takes a whole tenth off the 100m record that easily. Innocent until proven guilty for now, I guess.

You know who I feel sorry for in all of this? Jessica Ennis. An epic performance in the heptathlon, and she basically had to abandon her lap of honour so that Bolt could piss all over the record books.
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