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ImmortalX

Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject:

Chillywillyjuice wrote:

teehee, ImmortalX, you didn't last very long. you've already posted 4 times since you stated you would no longer post.

i guess it doesn't matter, since you could just post on your other account (JaveryMann)

I pretty much failed (and thus made myself look like an idiot), but yeah. At least I'm moderating what I say MUCH more now.

Side note... my friend's name is Javery. As soon as we have the video up, you can see me singing and Javery playing. It'll be on Youtube. I forget my lyrics... a lot. It sucks, but it's the best we've got.

in b4 split personalities

FallenSeraph wrote:

ImmortalX wrote:

MisterMixelpix wrote:

Keep in mind also this is a FANTASTIC experiment. Every Guitar Hero video on YouTube gets bombarded with "play a real guitar!" So now we can see the journey of someone who's very good at a real guitar as he attempts to show everyone just how easy he thinks it is.

The game itself is not entirely easy, but he makes it seem less difficult than it actually is. Most of this is just his adaptive capabilities.

I agree that it IS an awesome experiment; I enjoy every bit of progression he makes and every post that says something positive about him.

Hell, even HellAshes has some faith in him. It could be that he looks up to him as a REAL guitarist, but it also could just be that Garry is in general a really nice guy.

Or both.

My favorite aspect of this, I think, is the whole reversal of roles; the real guitarist learns to play a guitar-based game. It adds a whole new element, and he's even discovered that many tricks we use help him very little, but has invented some of his own.

For example, he'll use Guitar Pro to put the tablature from 1-5, and then play it that way, because he can read music better than he can read the screen, or even notecharts. I helped him tab out Solo B last night, and hopefully he'll be efficient at it soon.

If Javery does well enough, he won't get "lrn2plstcgtr" OR "lrn2plyrlgtrnub", but maybe a "Wow, what do you do with your life?" :P

So it sounds like he will be FC'ing it on performance mode. Seriously though have him do a performance mode run after the 21 days and film it for us.

If by "Performance Mode" you mean irl gtr, he's going to.

If by "Performance Mode" you mean the actual Performance Mode on Guitar Hero, then I'll have a video of myself doing it :P

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I don't remember who said it, but whoever said that this was all a trick made by HellAshes' people... YOU'RE RIGHT. HOW DID YOU FIGURE US OUT?

lol. But I did think that was one of the funniest posts on here.
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lazor

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Fuckin' A, People...

JaveryMann wrote:

Understand that I'm just doing this for fun, so stop taking it seriously. No, I'm not doing this as a slap in the face to people who play GH, I'm simply trying to take a challenge with the hope of FC'ing Jordan. The odds are against me, but I'll still friggin' work at it anyways.

Those who think this is solely a publicity stunt to get our band famous, it's not. That was an idea afterwards. If it works, awesome. We just figured that if there is a lot of publicity, we can focus it towards something.

So, once again, those who still seem to take this seriously: Lighten up. It's a challenge. If anyone wants to support me, great. If you don't, at least appreciate my efforts to challenge myself rather than staying in my comfort zone. Better yet, try something new yourself and try to do it in 21 days. It builds character and self esteem.

Think of something you can't do, and then shoot for the sky. If you do it, you're amazing. If you almost do it, your amazing and brave for trying. If you fail but still try, you're brave for trying.

This is one of the most inspiring posts I've read here.
I am going to program my first original(read:not using tutorials, and not just a simple notepad) application in C++ in 21 days.

Good luck. I honestly think that you may be able to do it.

Edit: After read the first 5 or so pages, I think I've seen some of the most despicable, immature, elitist things posted in this topic. Including that AIM conversation, and the guy calling the topic gay.

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject:

GrubFisher wrote:

I didn't know where to put this, so here it is.

Some guy, apparently, FC'd Jordan here on scorehero. But I think he cheated. Big time. ***edited out*** is his name. he has 999.999 points on trogdor, too.

Don't post fake scores publicly!! PM a mod when you suspect BS.
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JaveryMann

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: Fuckin' A, People...

lazor wrote:

Thanks for your appreciation of the thread. I'm at least grateful for the people like you who understand the point of it. Also, PM me with your progress on C++. I don't know the extent of the difficulty of that, but I can assume it won't be easy..

Good luck!
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http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46449&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

You can check out some shitty videos of me playing guitar at Youtube.com, just search for Javery Mann.

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stephit

Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject:

why are people flaming the guy? i wanna see how well he does, good luck javery _________________ www.youtube.com/stephit1 http://ustream.tv/channel/stephit-playing-guitar-hero

Hapaha

Joined: 04 Jan 2008
Posts: 39

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject:

In all honesty the only real flaming I see is the people defending him. The rest of us are just laughing, we're not the ones getting all offended and flipping out on people.

laxking23

Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 140
Location: Lynn, MA

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject:

stephit wrote:

why are people flaming the guy?

i wanna see how well he does, good luck javery

thank you someone finally is saying something good and you to HA i totally agree will he get it most likely not but i wanna see how far he gets but just imagine how scorehero would react if he got it lol
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lazor

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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject:

Hapaha wrote:

In all honesty the only real flaming I see is the people defending him.

The rest of us are just laughing, we're not the ones getting all offended and flipping out on people.

I've seen repeated posts about this guy offending scorehero by underestimating this achievement. This guy will be better than me by 21 days. He'll be better than a good bit of us.

ImmortalX

Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Posts: 392
Location: Massachusetts

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject:

lazor wrote:

Hapaha wrote:

In all honesty the only real flaming I see is the people defending him.

The rest of us are just laughing, we're not the ones getting all offended and flipping out on people.

I've seen repeated posts about this guy offending scorehero by underestimating this achievement. This guy will be better than me by 21 days. He'll be better than a good bit of us.

Because I know him personally, it would be freakin' sweet if he became better than me. I wouldn't even care. I can understand, though, how others might feel resentment, being that they have practiced so long and hard and he just picks it up and gets it.

However, I think that it'll be a generally good experience. Hell, there are already at least 5 "21 Days: The Race to..." threads, and all of them show promise of something being achieved.

I'd say that whatever the outcome of this, we've had a positive impact on ScoreHero. I'm glad.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject:

Hapaha wrote:

In all honesty the only real flaming I see is the people defending him.

The rest of us are just laughing, we're not the ones getting all offended and flipping out on people.

Yeah, I've seen probably 50 posts in this thread saying "guys, stop flaming him, he's only setting a goal etc." but I've probably only seen about 5 posts that were actually flaming. I hardly call stating your opinion and passing criticism flaming. Just as he has a right to post about his ridiculous goal, we have a right to post about how we feel about it and doubt him.

k3v227 wrote:

HellAshes wrote:

f4phantom2500 wrote:

smacky12 wrote:

If you can not remember the last time you looked into the

forum without thinking something derogatory bout new players or people who have spent huge amounts of time trying to achieve something, maybe you could do us all a favor and stop posting.

But that's just it...this guy hasn't put huge amounts of time into this goal, which requires huge amounts of time. The idea that he or anyone actually believes this guy can FC jordan 3 weeks after picking up the game is a slap in the face. Hell, I felt brash saying I think I could FC jordan when I had 430k.

Humility deserves respect. It's nice to shoot for the stars and all, but he's really bringing nothing to the table that would make me think he'll do it. He has zero scores submitted and hasn't even passed Jordan yet, last I checked. Why should I believe that he'll FC it anytime soon? Now, if his goal were to FC Jordan in 3 months, I *might* be more supportive. But 3 weeks? That's an insult to me and should be to everyone who's good at Jordan. He might as well say to me "Hey, I've never played this game before and I know you're like one of the best players in Dallas and all, but I bet I can do this ultimate goal within 3 weeks, even though you haven't been able to do it ever and have already been close for at least a month".

It just feels like the only reason he's playing the game is to try to 1-up the entire ScoreHero community, not because he actually enjoys the game.

I know he doesn't really expect to do it, but the notion that he's actually trying is bewildering. Maybe pass or possibly 5* it within 3 weeks wouldn't come off as being so demeaning to me. In fact, stating that as his goal would make it even more amazing if he were to FC it (even though it won't happen), and if he were able to do that we'd all be really impressed and supportive. However, with the stated goal of FC'ing it, if he 'only' manages to pass/5* it he'll be remembered as 'the dumbass who thought he could FC Jordan in 3 weeks'. Even though he doesn't actually expect to, it'll still go down that way (plus I mean...read his sig, come on).

If it doesn't bother me in any way, why should it bother you? All I see is this. "I want to FC Jordan." I DON'T see this. "I wanna FC Jordan so I can show the SH community that they are spending their time on this song for nothing because it's so easy anyone can do it 21 days." People are taking this FAR too seriously. Let the guy do what he wants. This thread shouldn't even have 10 pages yet.

So, what, are you the spokesperson for everyone on SH now? Since it doesn't bother you, and you're HA, we should all just blindly follow your opinion? I'm pretty sure we are all entitled to whatever we want to say. Just because you see it one way doesn't mean that we do.

Yes, I agree with you k3v. Ashes: you seem to be against elitism but isn't it just as bad to claim that everyone else should have the same opinion as you? And seeing ImmortalX claim that just because you posted in this thread encouraging him makes a difference is sickening. Skills should earn respect, but not authority. Just as you can share your opinion on this goal, others should be able to share their's.
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munkyzero

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:04 am Post subject:

f4phantom2500 wrote:

THIS is what I was talking about, ImmortalX. I'm not saying you shouldn't set goals, but setting a goal higher than anyone else with way more experience can achieve is an insult to them. The point is, he's trying to make it sound like it's all much easier than it really is. If someone tells you that something you're good at and proud of is easy, that's what I'd call an insult. And from what I know about f4 he is not some kind of person who just wants to go out, be the best, and crush other people's dreams. He has my respect and knows what he's talking about.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:10 am Post subject:

reading the replies in this topic is making me laugh so hard because people are arguing over the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. So please continue the arguments so i can have something to make me giggle the next time I read this topic. _________________ Division AA-4 GH3 Goals: 5* Hard [X] 02-25-08 5* Expert [3 left] RB, Bif, NoB Expert FC's [13] tdwdtg [X] 01-05-08 TtFaF [X] 01-06-08 Jordan [X] 01-07-08 12 mil [X] 12.5 mil [ ] 12.2

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: Re: 21 Days: The Race to FC Jordan

ikcilapmada wrote:

ImmortalX wrote:

if you shoot for the sun and miss, at least you hit the stars.

If you shoot for the sun and miss, you won't hit the stars that are millions of times farther out. You'd also have to be blind to miss the sun.

Also, tell him I said I'll empty my bank account for him if he FCs Jordan.

Of course, if you are looking at the sun while trying to shoot for it, you very well may be blind

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:20 am Post subject:

It seems that after I made my own "21 Days" goal because of this thread, they began proliferating all over the Acc. forum. Cool?

ImmortalX

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:21 am Post subject:

munkyzero wrote:

f4phantom2500 wrote:

THIS is what I was talking about, ImmortalX. I'm not saying you shouldn't set goals, but setting a goal higher than anyone else with way more experience can achieve is an insult to them. The point is, he's trying to make it sound like it's all much easier than it really is. If someone tells you that something you're good at and proud of is easy, that's what I'd call an insult. And from what I know about f4 he is not some kind of person who just wants to go out, be the best, and crush other people's dreams. He, in fact, set me straight about not trying to brag too much about my accomplishments and has my respect as NOT being a forum noob.

Okay. Noted.

If it offends you, then my apologies. The reason why it's ME apologizing is that it was ME that blew everything out of proportion. It was ME that made Javery sound so cocky, it was ME that posted his opinions without asking what they were first, and it was ME that kept getting tripped up with my own words.

Javery has set his overall goal that he would like to see achieved. That doesn't necessarily mean that he wholeheartedly believes that he can do it, but it certainly doesn't mean that he's not going to try. I mean, at the rate he's going, I'm almost positive he'll at least pass the song; so why not shoot as far as he can go? If he could achieve the goal easily, what's to stop him from quitting out early?

Hypothetical alert!

*"21 Days: The Race to Pass Jordan!" Okay, guys, it's been three weeks, and I passed. I had a great time. No need to delve into how much farther I can go. See ya.* Hypothetical score: 215,XXX.

OR

*"21 Days: The Race to FC Jordan!" Okay guys, it's been three weeks, and I've passed Jordan, and done decently well on solos B and C. I think I can do a lot better, though, and maybe I'll actually achieve this someday. I'll see you guys all around, and maybe I'll keep updating.* Hypothetical score: 300,XXX

(I'm not sure about Jordan scores, but I would assume that doing well on B and C and having a good SP path could get you 300k?)

This is what I believe would be the mental processes used in something like this. At least this way, he brings out his full potential, constantly spurred by the praise and scorn of the most well-versed community for Guitar Hero.

bjwdestroyer wrote:

It seems that after I made my own "21 Days" goal because of this thread, they began proliferating all over the Acc. forum.

Cool?

Very.
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