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AgreenPastel

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:10 am Post subject: James LaBrie... Virtuoso? |
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So we all know Dream Theater frickin' rules, and that they are all fantastic at what they do.
Something that people seem to disagree on is the entire band being virtuoso in their respective fields. It seems that everyone agrees that every member is a virtuoso in what they do, except LaBrie.
Some say he is, while others disagree. Some can't stand his voice, others love it. Personally, I can see where those who hate his voice are coming from (I couldn't stand it for about two weeks when I was first getting into them), but I would argue he is (and thus Dream Theater is) a virtuoso.
For reference, virtuoso is described as:
2. a person who excels in musical technique or execution.
3. a person who has a cultivated appreciation of artistic excellence, as a connoisseur or collector of objects of art, antiques, etc.
What do you guys think? _________________
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AgreenPastel

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: |
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turbo wrote: | He has a sound, he fits the music, but that doesn't make him virtuoso. He is a more than average singer. If he is virtuoso, then just about every person running through American Idol top 20 is virtuoso :\ He's not a very special singer in any regards. |
Who then, would you regard as such?
Personally, I've never met a male that can hit that F# in chest voice... _________________
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Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 1107 Location: The Brooklyn Zoo
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Placido Domingo is a virtuoso. Aretha Franklin is a virtuoso (virtuosa?).
James LaBrie is not. _________________
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Archang3L


Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 877 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Dream Theater are my all-time favourite band, but I wouldn't call LaBrie a virtuoso.
I happen to really like his voice, no matter the style he's singing - but yeah, he's not a virtuoso. _________________
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HellAshes 


Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 8321 Location: Livingston, NY
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Patton.
I like James' voice though.  |
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toymachine 


Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 9629 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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No not at all. I think I'd rather hear Geddy Lee
Also I agree with HellAshes calling Mike Patton a virtuoso. He is pretty much the definition of the word vocally. _________________
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cobainage1994

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 2020 Location: Whitewater , WI
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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HellAshes wrote: | Mike Patton.
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I do agree with that. Patton can pull off tons of different styles flawlessly.
It may not be the signature "virtuoso" type voice. But Patton is unconscious at what he does |
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Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 4712 Location: /export/home
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I have to unwillingly agree. I love James LaBrie's voice but someone having a really good or enjoyable voice doesn't necessarily make them a virtuoso. _________________
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tormentedbyu


Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 3090 Location: Katy, TX
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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PiemanLK wrote: | I guess I have to unwillingly agree. I love James LaBrie's voice but someone having a really good or enjoyable voice doesn't necessarily make them a virtuoso. |
This. The Dream Theater Fanboy in me wants to argue with you all until death. The side of me that knows anything about music wants to agree. I'll have to go with the unbiased side and say that while LaBrie is (in my opinion) an amazing singer that complements the music well... he isn't a virtuoso. _________________
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erock 


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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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His name should not even be associated with the word Virtuoso.
He is clearly a God. _________________
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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deadhead15


Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 675 Location: manteno, illinois
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think he sucks personally, that is why I prefer Symphony X to them. I think that Russel Allen is a much better singer. If you don't believe me just watch this.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE2jmZq-eck _________________
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NejiHyuuga777


Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 355
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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He does have a great pitch range, and his voice is pretty clear. However, it's hard to stick out as a singer. I don't know how to consider a singer a virtuoso, except maybe opera singers or classical singers. I'd say he's just really good. _________________
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OnionPowder


Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 2236 Location: Altamonte Springs/Longwood, FL
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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King Diamond a virtuoso?
He may not be, but he is in my opinion at least, >_>. And I wouldn't consider LaBrie a virtuoso, his vocals don't seem to be that impressive, at least when put with the other members of Dream Theater. _________________
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