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flyingrossie
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| jugular wrote: | Spiderwebs - Expert Path
2(+1) - 1st YO in measure 50 to 2nd O in measure 59 (double squeeze)
2 - First blue measure 96 to second Y in measure 103 (double squeeze)
2 - 2nd RB in measure 128 to 1st G in measure 132 (double squeeze)
2 - First Y in measure 149 to O in measure 153 (double squeeze)
2 - O sustain in measure 179 to final Y sustain (squeeze for ticks)
Estimated Score - 363,646
This score would be pretty ridiculous to pull off; you'd be lucky to get 363k. However if my calculations are correct you should be able to get 362k fairly easily.
Keep in mind that I rounded off the whammy for the last activation, so the final Y sustain may be a little difficult to get than what's charted. |
My path should be removed from the op at the next update because this one is a lot better. |
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pman5595
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| pashumba wrote: | | pman5595 wrote: | Path for Hail to the Freaks:
2- ninth red, squeeze to the RYB sustain at the end of measure 34. Picks up one star power phrase along the way.
2- GY, squeeze to fifth RY in measure 64
1- tenth RY in the second star power phrase, squeeze to RYB sustain at the end of measure 111. Picks up two star power phrases along the way.
It would be wonderful if somebody with Microsoft Paint could make a visual for this. I'm on a Mac. |
i'll cover this one, should only take a few minutes, i'll post back after it's uploaded
edit: visual posted here: pman5595's Hail To The Freaks path
used undead's method for charting paths because it's sexy and i love it  |
Thanks a TON. Just letting people know, the last two activations are double squeezes and are quite difficult.
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jugular
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| flyingrossie wrote: | | jugular wrote: | Spiderwebs - Expert Path
2(+1) - 1st YO in measure 50 to 2nd O in measure 59 (double squeeze)
2 - First blue measure 96 to second Y in measure 103 (double squeeze)
2 - 2nd RB in measure 128 to 1st G in measure 132 (double squeeze)
2 - First Y in measure 149 to O in measure 153 (double squeeze)
2 - O sustain in measure 179 to final Y sustain (squeeze for ticks)
Estimated Score - 363,646
This score would be pretty ridiculous to pull off; you'd be lucky to get 363k. However if my calculations are correct you should be able to get 362k fairly easily.
Keep in mind that I rounded off the whammy for the last activation, so the final Y sustain may be a little difficult to get than what's charted. |
My path should be removed from the op at the next update because this one is a lot better. |
Actually Piso was right, my estimated score is incorrect. I triple checked my activations and the amount of points you should obtain from them were all correct, so there's definitely something wrong with the base score in the blank chart.
I actually just FC'd this with a new path similar to my first one and grabbed 357,200 (somehow dropped a red sustain so it should've been 400-500 >_>), so my path woul dprobably only be able to get you around 358k or so with double squeezes.
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Whitt333 
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have a path for "Another Way To Die"? I thought I had the path, but apparently someone beat it by 2k. (I only missed ticks on my path, got all the squeezes)
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pman5595
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Oh, I forgot to mention, my Hail to the Freaks path will get about 265,0xx with the double squeezes, about a thousand higher than the top score.
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ElementOfZero
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:46 am Post subject: |
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[quote="pman5595"]| Keithfert488 wrote: | | pman5595 wrote: | | HellnFire666 wrote: | | WALL OF TEXT ABOUT WHAMMYING |
No if you have three phrases with three beats of whammy combined you get
6 measures from the phrases themselves + (3 x 8/31)
In this example you get about 6.77 measures. Now if it is in 4/4 time you would get 27 beats out of this. But in 2/4 time, you would only get 13.5 beats out of it. |
I'm pretty sure whammy is measured in beats so the 8/31 thing would only calculate the right amount of measures in 4/4 time. |
Yeah, you get half that for 2/4 time.
I've been using the charts total SP from whammying * .258 = extra measures in my paths. They've all worked perfect. And for On The Road Again, divide that number of measure by two.
Also, in Stranglehold has a 2/4 measure in the last activation to consider, so you have to be on the look out for those.. Damn Undead for having almost the exact same path 
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pman5595
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: |
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[quote="ElementOfZero"]| pman5595 wrote: | | Keithfert488 wrote: | | pman5595 wrote: | | HellnFire666 wrote: | | WALL OF TEXT ABOUT WHAMMYING |
No if you have three phrases with three beats of whammy combined you get
6 measures from the phrases themselves + (3 x 8/31)
In this example you get about 6.77 measures. Now if it is in 4/4 time you would get 27 beats out of this. But in 2/4 time, you would only get 13.5 beats out of it. |
I'm pretty sure whammy is measured in beats so the 8/31 thing would only calculate the right amount of measures in 4/4 time. |
Yeah, you get half that for 2/4 time.
I've been using the charts total SP from whammying * .258 = extra measures in my paths. They've all worked perfect. And for On The Road Again, divide that number of measure by two.
Also, in Stranglehold has a 2/4 measure in the last activation to consider, so you have to be on the look out for those.. Damn Undead for having almost the exact same path |
you messed up the quoting. Keithfert said what you had me saying. I didn't say anything that's there. (except maybe the "WALL OF TEXT ABOUT WHAMMYING"? that might be me)
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PieGuy
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| jugular wrote: | | I triple checked my activations and the amount of points you should obtain from them were all correct, so there's definitely something wrong with the base score in the blank chart. |
It's because of all the extended sustains - the charts count extended sustains as two (or three or four) separate sustains and scores them all separately, leading to a higher base score than should be. |
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jugular
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Float On - Expert Path
2 - 4th RO in measure 13 to YO sustain in measure 18 (squeeze)
3(+1) - First YB in measure 40 to second Y in measure 49 (double squeeze)
3 - First G in measure 76 to last Y in measure 82
Estimated Score: 215,425
After checking Deepfreeze's video of his 213k score, I saw that we had the same path except he was missing about 800 points on his first activation which didn't require any squeezing. That second squeeze seems near impossible, and I don't think you'd be able to keep the R sustain going if you were trying to hit the note that early, so keep that in mind if you wish to go for that squeeze.
| PieGuy wrote: | | jugular wrote: | | I triple checked my activations and the amount of points you should obtain from them were all correct, so there's definitely something wrong with the base score in the blank chart. |
It's because of all the extended sustains - the charts count extended sustains as two (or three or four) separate sustains and scores them all separately, leading to a higher base score than should be. |
Yeah you're right, I was looking at the path for schism, and I noticed the blank chart stated that your score should be 22,525 after the GY sustain, but in game I only had like 18,4xx.
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ElementOfZero
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| pman5595 wrote: |
you messed up the quoting. Keithfert said what you had me saying. I didn't say anything that's there. (except maybe the "WALL OF TEXT ABOUT WHAMMYING"? that might be me) |
Lol irony. Anyway, comment still stands. But, I've noticed some weird shit that goes on with the sustains in On The Road Again.
And Jugular, I got 213.5k with the path starting at the triple  . Looks like I missed a good 1200+ with that. Also, probably missed 200 in second activation, but I'm positive I got third. Dont know where the other 200 is. I'll try your path later tonight.
fifth edit: nevermind, 1600 on first activation. Wow.
just got 214014. Missed 400 in first, and 200 in second. I'm not sure if that second yellow is possible. Also, dropped a long sustain, which could have cost me 200. So thats 2148xx. Which is first place.
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jugular
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| ElementOfZero wrote: |
And Jugular, I got 213.5k with the path starting at the triple . Looks like I missed a good 1200+ with that. Also, probably missed 200 in second activation, but I'm positive I got third. Dont know where the other 200 is. I'll try your path later tonight.
fifth edit: nevermind, 1600 on first activation. Wow. So I guess I did get that Sustain + note squeeze in the second. It is possible.
just got 214014. Missed 400 in first, and 200 in second. I'm not sure if that second yellow is possible. Also, dropped a long sustain, which could have cost me 200. So thats 2148xx. Which is first place. |
Yeah I did the math and you'd miss 1150 points by activating there instead of my activation spot. The second activation is really the only big squeeze, the last activation should end right on the last yellow with, if not none, little squeezing involved.
I also made a path for Ramblin Man, and I'm 99% sure this is optimal.
Ramblin' Man - Expert Path
3 - 1st RB in measure 47 to 1st R in measure 54 (squeeze)
2 - 3rd RY in measure 89 to 4th RY in measure 93 (squeeze; not quite a double squeeze)
3 - 3rd Y in measure 157 to 2nd R in measure 165 (double squeeze)
1(+1) - B in measure 203 to 2nd R in measure 209 (double squeeze)
Estimated Score: 352,495
The first two squeezes are actually quite same, the second activation is only slightly harder than the first. However they are NOTHING compared to the last two double squeezes, squeezing HOPO's is always lame 
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ElementOfZero
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: |
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You're Gonna Say Yeah! Path
Optimized Unimportant's with some slight shifting.
It got me 5th place under Piso.
And Jugular, Have you confirmed thats where it ends by playing? Mine always ends at the orange and I whammy the shit out of everything.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:43 am Post subject: |
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ElementOfZero:
Second activation should start on the third RYB of m47 and last to the last GYB of m52.
Third activation can start 3 notes sooner and end where you have it marked.
Fourth activation looks like it can start a note sooner and still get that RYB.
Fifth can start on the GR in m121 and last to the RB. |
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jugular
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| ElementOfZero wrote: |
You're Gonna Say Yeah! Path
Optimized Unimportant's with some slight shifting.
It got me 5th place under Piso.
And Jugular, Have you confirmed thats where it ends by playing? Mine always ends at the orange and I whammy the shit out of everything. |
Yeah I just played it awhile ago and got 214,107 (-800 in first act., lulz), and I noticed that I just missed the O while under SP, so I think it's safe to say the squeeze to the Y is impossble. The first activation still seems possible though, I had bad whammyand just missed the YB chord under SP, so the score should be around 215,245 now without the impossible Y.
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