Everlong

[hydrapower]

I still am not able to pass this song - in fact I usually die before the first time the word "Everlong" appears in the song! (20% or earlier). As soon as the verse kicks in everything goes to mush. I tried it in practice mode and I only ended up with 68% of the notes hit! Not to mention it sounded like absolute crap on my cymbals. I just don't seem to have the two-handed chops plus bass pedal coordination yet.

However I do see some scores from some of the average players (no disrespect intended, many people are just starting) that includes an Everlong score! Since at this point I would really just like to pass the song in the first place, what's a good way to, for lack of a better word, bullshit your way through it?

I haven't tried this yet but I was thinking about skipping the yellow immediately after the snare - maybe the 16th rest there will help me stay more consistent. I know that won't get me a good score, but at this point I don't really care, I would just like a score.

Thanks for any help guys.

EDIT: Oops forgot to mention this is on the WT kit, so it's not even the awkward left-handed way you end up playing it on the RB kit.

EDIT 2: WOOHOO!!!!

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[hydrapower]

I still am not able to pass this song - in fact I usually die before the first time the word "Everlong" appears in the song! (20% or earlier). As soon as the verse kicks in everything goes to mush. I tried it in practice mode and I only ended up with 68% of the notes hit! Not to mention it sounded like absolute crap on my cymbals. I just don't seem to have the two-handed chops plus bass pedal coordination yet.

However I do see some scores from some of the average players (no disrespect intended, many people are just starting) that includes an Everlong score! Since at this point I would really just like to pass the song in the first place, what's a good way to, for lack of a better word, bullshit your way through it?

I haven't tried this yet but I was thinking about skipping the yellow immediately after the snare - maybe the 16th rest there will help me stay more consistent. I know that won't get me a good score, but at this point I don't really care, I would just like a score.

Thanks for any help guys.

EDIT: Oops forgot to mention this is on the WT kit, so it's not even the awkward left-handed way you end up playing it on the RB kit.

EDIT 2: WOOHOO!!!!

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[ElementOfZero]

I don't know what to tell you, because most of my problems stem from endurance. I can usually combo up the the first chorus, but after that it's a shit fest.

What are your specific problems? Riding the hi-hat while hitting snare/bass? Staying in rhythm while doing so? I probably won't be much help, but take it into practice at 80% (slow) and trying playing the song in it's entirety. This will give a pretty memorable representation of when to hit what note with what hand.
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[ElementOfZero]

I don't know what to tell you, because most of my problems stem from endurance. I can usually combo up the the first chorus, but after that it's a shit fest.

What are your specific problems? Riding the hi-hat while hitting snare/bass? Staying in rhythm while doing so? I probably won't be much help, but take it into practice at 80% (slow) and trying playing the song in it's entirety. This will give a pretty memorable representation of when to hit what note with what hand.
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[HoorayItsMike]

Well first of all you want to play all of the snares with your right hand except when there are the two in a row, then go right left on the snare, right on the orange, and then left on the yellow and continue on. This is sort of awkward, but practice makes perfect. You have to be ready for the bass pedal or else you are done for and you will get totally off beat. The bass changes nearly every measure, so you have to either memorize or watch carefully on what's coming up. Often, your mind is too preoccupied with that little fill and there is a bass pedal immediately after it that you hit just a little late, throwing your entire rhythm offbeat. Play it only the slow difficulties A LOT before moving on. The more you play it, the better muscle memory you will have of it. Even if you feel like it's doing nothing, practicing this part is always helping you.
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[HoorayItsMike]

Well first of all you want to play all of the snares with your right hand except when there are the two in a row, then go right left on the snare, right on the orange, and then left on the yellow and continue on. This is sort of awkward, but practice makes perfect. You have to be ready for the bass pedal or else you are done for and you will get totally off beat. The bass changes nearly every measure, so you have to either memorize or watch carefully on what's coming up. Often, your mind is too preoccupied with that little fill and there is a bass pedal immediately after it that you hit just a little late, throwing your entire rhythm offbeat. Play it only the slow difficulties A LOT before moving on. The more you play it, the better muscle memory you will have of it. Even if you feel like it's doing nothing, practicing this part is always helping you.
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[hydrapower]

Heh, I kind of ninja'd you guys IRL because immediately after I posted I took it into practice mode on Slow for a half hour. Now I have the bass pedal pattern down well enough, so I think just the main problem now is yellow chops. I then played the song for almost 2 hours and made it a few times to 34% which is the end of verse 2. I feel if I could get to the Chorus 1 of Freedom I could get through the rest of the song, because wouldn't I accumulate at least half a bar there for emergency? Then it's just finding a way to make it through verse 3 which I imagine I could do if my rock meter's green again. I hate the fact that this game has the GH3 rock meter where it takes a long time to go from green to yellow but then you go from yellow to fail in a second.

My arms are pretty tired now so I'll take a break for a day and then come back to it some more on Monday. I'll get it the real way, no bullshit required.

Thanks.
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[hydrapower]

Heh, I kind of ninja'd you guys IRL because immediately after I posted I took it into practice mode on Slow for a half hour. Now I have the bass pedal pattern down well enough, so I think just the main problem now is yellow chops. I then played the song for almost 2 hours and made it a few times to 34% which is the end of verse 2. I feel if I could get to the Chorus 1 of Freedom I could get through the rest of the song, because wouldn't I accumulate at least half a bar there for emergency? Then it's just finding a way to make it through verse 3 which I imagine I could do if my rock meter's green again. I hate the fact that this game has the GH3 rock meter where it takes a long time to go from green to yellow but then you go from yellow to fail in a second.

My arms are pretty tired now so I'll take a break for a day and then come back to it some more on Monday. I'll get it the real way, no bullshit required.

Thanks.
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[Whitt333]

When you start to wear out, press the start button very quickly (Or the 360 guide button). This will give you time to rest your hands and then get back on it. Even though you will miss notes, it should prove to not fail you.

If you are so inconsistent with it that this isn't working either, try putting on the "No kick" cheat and trying it. (You may want to use the first technique along with this if needed) Play through a few times with Auto Kick, and then work your way up to trying to kick them with the cheat still on, then you can take the cheat off and you wont notice its gone
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[Whitt333]

When you start to wear out, press the start button very quickly (Or the 360 guide button). This will give you time to rest your hands and then get back on it. Even though you will miss notes, it should prove to not fail you.

If you are so inconsistent with it that this isn't working either, try putting on the "No kick" cheat and trying it. (You may want to use the first technique along with this if needed) Play through a few times with Auto Kick, and then work your way up to trying to kick them with the cheat still on, then you can take the cheat off and you wont notice its gone
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[Sulfurus]

As far as I can tell the pace of the song is the same throughout. So if you can hit the intro yellows then you should be ok with the rest. I start with my right hand which means the red is hit right-handed also. Might be similar to Crazy Train? Only slower. The bass pedal is the harder part I feel, there seem only 2 different patterns for this so, if you do have this down you ought to pass pretty soon I would hope. Good Luck!

[Sulfurus]

As far as I can tell the pace of the song is the same throughout. So if you can hit the intro yellows then you should be ok with the rest. I start with my right hand which means the red is hit right-handed also. Might be similar to Crazy Train? Only slower. The bass pedal is the harder part I feel, there seem only 2 different patterns for this so, if you do have this down you ought to pass pretty soon I would hope. Good Luck!

[zepp3lin526]

I never had a problem keeping the rhythm of this song, fatigue was always my issue. I had the idea to lower my yellow cymbal into the packaged position, and sure enough I passed it for the first time. If fatigue is ever a problem for you, try that. Your hands and arms have to move less.
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[zepp3lin526]

I never had a problem keeping the rhythm of this song, fatigue was always my issue. I had the idea to lower my yellow cymbal into the packaged position, and sure enough I passed it for the first time. If fatigue is ever a problem for you, try that. Your hands and arms have to move less.
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[marko34256]

theres nothing i can do to help you fix your endurance without actually seeing you play...but heres some suggestions:

most obvious, take it into practice and slow it down. start with just the hands, once you get hands down, then go with just the bass. once you get that down, add the two together. slowing it down will be the start to fixing any coordination issues

if you had no drum skills/lessons whatsoever before buying this game (or rock band), i'm willing to bet that you're playing with incorrect technique and/or hitting the drums way harder than they need to be hit.

i'd argue that the best technique to use for playing rb/wt sets is from marching tenor/quads/quints/etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14B1vVwMq2k&feature=related

take note that he beats the drums from barely moving his wrist, and has minimal movement from the elbows up. lots of people think the drums need to be hit way harder than they need to be and also move their arms at the elbow. for you, focus on minimizing your arm movement as much as possible and youll gain a lot more endurance--and if you haven't done so already, look up videos on how to hold sticks correctly.

another thing is to not tense up/flex your arms as you play. believe it or not, the more relaxed you are, the faster you'll be able to play.

[marko34256]

theres nothing i can do to help you fix your endurance without actually seeing you play...but heres some suggestions:

most obvious, take it into practice and slow it down. start with just the hands, once you get hands down, then go with just the bass. once you get that down, add the two together. slowing it down will be the start to fixing any coordination issues

if you had no drum skills/lessons whatsoever before buying this game (or rock band), i'm willing to bet that you're playing with incorrect technique and/or hitting the drums way harder than they need to be hit.

i'd argue that the best technique to use for playing rb/wt sets is from marching tenor/quads/quints/etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14B1vVwMq2k&feature=related

take note that he beats the drums from barely moving his wrist, and has minimal movement from the elbows up. lots of people think the drums need to be hit way harder than they need to be and also move their arms at the elbow. for you, focus on minimizing your arm movement as much as possible and youll gain a lot more endurance--and if you haven't done so already, look up videos on how to hold sticks correctly.

another thing is to not tense up/flex your arms as you play. believe it or not, the more relaxed you are, the faster you'll be able to play.

[hydrapower]

OMG First pass finally! I don't even care about the score or streak yet - I was so excited when I made it to the Chorus of Freedom that I missed all kinds of easy crap. I didn't fuck around with Verse 3 either, I just activated right away (good thing too because I would have lost it and then probably had a nervous breakdown).

So yes, it was as simple as Practice Mode + lrn2relax = great success. Thanks guys! I'll probably lock this now.
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[hydrapower]

OMG First pass finally! I don't even care about the score or streak yet - I was so excited when I made it to the Chorus of Freedom that I missed all kinds of easy crap. I didn't fuck around with Verse 3 either, I just activated right away (good thing too because I would have lost it and then probably had a nervous breakdown).

So yes, it was as simple as Practice Mode + lrn2relax = great success. Thanks guys! I'll probably lock this now.
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