No Love for the Guitar Hero Vocalists

**Bananenbrot** · Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 13

oh grae i wished i had a cam. could show you my desperate struggle with the microsoft headset where guitar hero wont give me the points i deserve while singing completely right!

anyway, as ive pointed out in one of your vids, id rather enjoy watching you fcing songs with a humming technique though you ve demonstrated imposingly you can fc gh metallica songs without making use of hums

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**matt1592** · Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 51

I honesty would take a singing near FC. Humming makes me feel delinquent
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**Y2Grae** · Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 33

**toymachine** · Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 9629 Location: Toronto

on GHWT/GHM the charts force you to hum/slur your words.

So I don't blame you.

But singing and getting a 5* is still awesome

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**GuitarHailz** · Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 4910 Location: Austin, Texas

**Taozack** · Joined: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 168 Location: Teh Francez0rz

Basically, singing the lyrics perfectly on a GH hard song is absolutely insane. Like GuitarHailz said about SCC (I did hum my SCC FC, and am pretty sure everyone that has FC it has hummed >.>). RB is much more careless about precision, and therefore "easier" to sing with the lyrics. But there is absolutely NO vocal system that is perfect.

One that'd be really good (meaning, realistic) would be: RB recognition which is pretty good, GH possibility to activate whenever, not just whooing which is firstly pointless when you sing in front of a public, and even dumb we could say (go sing some Black Metal with a public+try a "whoo" = FAIL) and GH talkies. But that ain't gonna happen.

**RadioDuke** · Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 614

This thread has opened my eyes. I went into World Tour expecting the vocals to suck. I played a song that I could FC on Rock Band and thought "if I can't FC it on World Tour, this game's vocal system must be broken." I missed several phrases, and never sung on World Tour again.

After reading some thoughts in this thread, I'm definitely going to sing on World Tour when I get home from work. I'm starting to feel pretty stupid for judging every aspect of this game prematurely.
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**Amanwithapencil** · Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 476 Location: Tennessee

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**tidus** · Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:04 am Post subject:

Just for actually losing all of my patience, I prefer play a handful of Rock Band 2 songs for a few hundreds of points over spending at least 1 or 1 1/2 hour (sounding like a 8 year-old girl and annoying even myself during the process) grinding out just for a 5* on a single GH: Metallica song. Fact. HOWEVER...

I still handle World Tour once in a while and it still feels good to grind for some fresh FC's. *looks at my B.Y.O.B. and Spiderwebs FC's* It even looks like GH Vocalists are looked down on simply for playing GH on Vocals. Yeah, I know, a game that caters more to guitarists due to its origins. But, GH is a band game now, and Vocals ARE a part of it, but looks like it doesn't exist here. This is getting worse than GH: Aerosmith, IMO.

Well, I'm on a hiatus from GH:M Vocals and all. But I really wanted to see a community here as well. I also wanted to see more RB vocalists going here. Maybe this could help the GH Vocalists to get more love. Or I'm wrong?
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But yeah, lol @ the fact that you can say "she" in this thread and not be sure which person is being talked about. Now we know whose milkshake brings all the girls to the yard.

<3 this.

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**twistedoak** · Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 1152

An interesting topic to say in the least. Just to put in my two cents in the comments:

I think the guitar hero system of vocals is great for the most part. It's much more challenging than the rockband system, although I think the forgiving part of rockband makes it more fun to sing in (I'm not doing it for scores anymore).

The part I absolutely hate in guitar hero are the freeform systems. It shows the abuse of scores when you compare a song that has a freeform section to one that doesn't. One that doesn't have a freeform section has very few scores that are at the top, and those people are pretty competitive. Songs that do have freeform sections have some outrageous scores, and there are quite a few different people at the top of those leaderboards. It just shows that the system can be manipulated, just like any other system (I'm looking at you, rockband). The huge abuse shows up on the vocal achievement songs.

I would say that I personally would have liked the vocals a lot better if the freeform sections were worth less points or none altogether. That way, the score would be a truer assessment of the actual singing of the song, and not a manipulation of a system for max points.

Good luck to all singers in guitar hero. You guys should be more recognized for being the brave vox instrument in a "guitar" game.
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**dogfoodnyc** · Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 1218 Location: New Hyde Park, NY

Before I throw my non-sense in. Here is what I see myself as:
I am just a gaming vocalist. I will play any game if there is song in that game I really want to sing. I rarely visit this side of the SH. However, with GH:M and soon GH:SH, you bet I'll be here more often. I hope maybe I can even get a Full Band going for GH:SH soon.

It will always take time to catch up an already set trend.

RB singing has been out for almost two years now. People are familiar with it. In order for more people (not just SH ppl, but Youtube viewers, GH official site ppl, and maybe even RB official site ppl) to recognize the vocals aspect of the GH game, this what I think should be done:

1. More Videos for exposure
2. More discussion in vocals technique thread to increase interaction
3. More vocalist's accomplishment threads to increase recognition

It is also the song selections that matters. GH:WT for me personally, I know about 10% to 20% of the song upon reading the SetList. It turns me off a bit when I don't know 80% of the songs. However, this will change when GH:SH arrives tomorrow. Oh, and I enjoyed GH:M a lot b/c I just happened to know more Metallica songs that's all.

As for getting more credit, vocalists just need to keep pushing and really help out each other and give credits to each other. The more you help, the more respect others will give you. This at least worked for me on RB vocals. And I'll again emphasize that it will take time. However, if we keep working at it, I am sure with the level of dedication GH vocalists have, this will be accomplished very soon.
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