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Grimnir
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 907 Location: OMG you live in ut or play on psn? add me lets play!!!
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CDI
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 114 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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I can 4.9 star it consistantly. But I think the real key is being able to hit all the scratches. It's kinda like saying "See? TTFaF FC is that easy? You just gotta hit all the notes and strum fast and know how to tap!" ;) |
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maxninja114
Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Posts: 342 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, like i said in the comments, if you know how to do the scratches and cross fade correctly, getting 5 stars on this mix is actually not that hard (especially with rewinds).
You just proved that you can 5 star this mix even without going through the entire mix though, nice XD _________________
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thenewkidaw71
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 809 Location: northeast ohio (we are all quitnessess)
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:01 am Post subject: |
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i dont get it,
i odviously dont have dj hero, but whats so hard about the fabled groundhog? >_> _________________
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maxninja114
Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Posts: 342 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: |
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thenewkidaw71 wrote: | i dont get it,
i odviously dont have dj hero, but whats so hard about the fabled groundhog? >_> | Well, to anybody that doesn't know the game play of the game and who don't have it, seeing this would make you want to go "WOAH! That is hard as f***!" because of all of the notes, cross fades, and scratches.
Also giving the fact that there is a guy narrating you throughout the song trying to convince you that you won't make it through the whole mix adds on to it....and maybe because this was the first "recognizeable" hard mix before the game ever came out (a.k.a it was shown to be the hardest through it's 30 second clip over at DJ Hero's website AND later on became known as the "DJ Hero's Through The Fire And Flames" on Youtube where the Creative Director gave it a shot during GC 2009 and got 2 stars on it).
At first, i thought i wouldn't get not even 3* or above on this mix on any difficulty, but after a week, i successfully 5*'d it on Expert. Aside from this mix, Beats and Pieces and the Rockit Beat Juggle are also pretty hard in their own way. _________________
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Grimnir
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 907 Location: OMG you live in ut or play on psn? add me lets play!!!
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:14 am Post subject: |
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thenewkidaw71 wrote: | i dont get it,
i odviously dont have dj hero, but whats so hard about the fabled groundhog? >_> |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp9a6QAvMT8
Check out the last minute of this vid, and you'll see why it's tough. It's a song that ppl are hitting a mil on, but I think a full combo is gonna be over 2.5m, maybe even over 3m. _________________
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mikepalermo1
Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 981 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Personally I find rockit and Beats and Pieces waaaay harder than groundhog. _________________
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Grimnir
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 907 Location: OMG you live in ut or play on psn? add me lets play!!!
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:26 am Post subject: |
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For scoring a mil points.. I'd agree. But I think when it comes to fc, groundhog is gonna be the bitch >_< _________________
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Muckytears
Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 880
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Grimnir wrote: | For scoring a mil points.. I'd agree. But I think when it comes to fc, groundhog is gonna be the bitch >_< |
even tho ive not even 5*d groundhog yet :P, i still reckon i have like 1000 times more chance fcing it than beats and pieces or rockit _________________
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Grimnir
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 907 Location: OMG you live in ut or play on psn? add me lets play!!!
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Muckytears wrote: | Grimnir wrote: | For scoring a mil points.. I'd agree. But I think when it comes to fc, groundhog is gonna be the bitch >_< |
even tho ive not even 5*d groundhog yet :P, i still reckon i have like 1000 times more chance fcing it than beats and pieces or rockit |
At this point, no one is full comboing any of these, so we can't really tell which would be toughest. Beats and pieces the easiest of the 3 in my opinion. It's patterns get easier as the song speeds up. Rockit and Groundhog both build intensity towards the end. Between the two, I wouldn't be able to call which off the top of my head is "worse" Where both are most difficult, in my opinion, are in the fast dd scratch patterns. These are such an unreliable thing for me to hit at this point.
Rockit's main difficult section that stands out in my mind is the long stretch of individual scratches. But as these are my personal failing point still, I wouldn't expect everyone else to suck at them as much as I do.
edit: played rockit a few times today... I think groundhog will be the tougher full combo. _________________
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anonymous_104
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Muckytears
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Azurite wrote: | mikepalermo1 wrote: | Personally I find rockit and Beats and Pieces waaaay harder than groundhog. |
I think beats and pieces is like the "Visions" of DJ Hero: it's super hard, but it focuses only on two or three techniques during the majority of the song (visions = blast beats, beats and pieces = ridiculous scratching).
Noisia is more like the "Panic Attack" of DJ Hero, wherein it tests all of the available skills the game can hold (fast taps, unidirectional/omnidirectional scratching, single scratches, spikes, fast/complex crossfading, effector knob usage all over the place).
Note these are from a drums standpoint of course :P |
not to mention visions drums and beats and pieces both rape the hell out of my arm :P i still reckon when people start fcing stuff, noisia will come before beats and pieces _________________
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CDI
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 114 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Azurite wrote: | ( ... ) scratching).
Noisia is more like the "Panic Attack" of DJ Hero ( ... ) |
For the record. It's Groundhog BY Noisia. Not to nitpick, but if people keep calling it "Noisia" and they release more tracks by them, then people are going to get confused. |
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Grimnir
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 907 Location: OMG you live in ut or play on psn? add me lets play!!!
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Muckytears wrote: | Azurite wrote: | mikepalermo1 wrote: | Personally I find rockit and Beats and Pieces waaaay harder than groundhog. |
I think beats and pieces is like the "Visions" of DJ Hero: it's super hard, but it focuses only on two or three techniques during the majority of the song (visions = blast beats, beats and pieces = ridiculous scratching).
Noisia is more like the "Panic Attack" of DJ Hero, wherein it tests all of the available skills the game can hold (fast taps, unidirectional/omnidirectional scratching, single scratches, spikes, fast/complex crossfading, effector knob usage all over the place).
Note these are from a drums standpoint of course :P |
not to mention visions drums and beats and pieces both rape the hell out of my arm :P i still reckon when people start fcing stuff, noisia will come before beats and pieces |
I completely disagree about fc of groundhog before beats and peices. beats and peices has some tricky scratching, but as it speeds up, it gets alot easier. really it does. The double down scratches and fade up red red up and such of groundhog adds so many more places to error.
This is sorta like the difference between rabl and ttfaf. Ttfaf has so many more spots to mess up on, where rabl is all focused into 2 parts. _________________
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gamecubeRLZ
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 124 Location: akron, ohio
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:25 am Post subject: |
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that video really helped. i only 2 starred groundhog on my sr, so i am definitely going to go back and try a method like this. i still think it's going to take a while for me to get the 5*. _________________
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