Some things I've noticed on new school games

[THABEAST721]

GHVH has early whammy. I have no idea why, but it just does. Maybe WT does too because I didn't pay attention to my whammy on that game, but some of the squeezes Scarecrow and Fug had hit were impossible for me. GHM and GHSH definitely don't have early whammy though because I didn't pay attention to my whammy in those games, and I got some crazy squeezes. I thought the optimal squeezes in Runnin' With The Devil were impossible, but now they are easy after I pay attention to getting early whammy.

Also, slider sustains don't behave the same as normal sustains in new school games. They behave like the ones in GH3 except they don't have that small gap between sustains. So all you need to do is let the end of the sustain happen, and you will get a burst of ticks at the end if you had hit the sustain late. I noticed this while I was playing Raining Blood. I got perfect ticks in the intro on my first try and I thought "wow that's crazy, got perfect ticks on my first try!" But then I got perfect ticks again, and again, and again. I knew something was up. That's when I noticed they were behaving just like the ones in GH3.

Don't know if this is useful to anyone, but there is a couple of tips to increase your score.
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[THABEAST721]

GHVH has early whammy. I have no idea why, but it just does. Maybe WT does too because I didn't pay attention to my whammy on that game, but some of the squeezes Scarecrow and Fug had hit were impossible for me. GHM and GHSH definitely don't have early whammy though because I didn't pay attention to my whammy in those games, and I got some crazy squeezes. I thought the optimal squeezes in Runnin' With The Devil were impossible, but now they are easy after I pay attention to getting early whammy.

Also, slider sustains don't behave the same as normal sustains in new school games. They behave like the ones in GH3 except they don't have that small gap between sustains. So all you need to do is let the end of the sustain happen, and you will get a burst of ticks at the end if you had hit the sustain late. I noticed this while I was playing Raining Blood. I got perfect ticks in the intro on my first try and I thought "wow that's crazy, got perfect ticks on my first try!" But then I got perfect ticks again, and again, and again. I knew something was up. That's when I noticed they were behaving just like the ones in GH3.

Don't know if this is useful to anyone, but there is a couple of tips to increase your score.
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[newuser1234]

theres something wrong with the end of ticks on gh6. on a few of my 1st place scores, i got insane ticks at the end of a sustain for seemingly no reason. not really sure how to explain it.
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[newuser1234]

theres something wrong with the end of ticks on gh6. on a few of my 1st place scores, i got insane ticks at the end of a sustain for seemingly no reason. not really sure how to explain it.
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[ThunderShade]

Funny you say that, since I remember Kyl3Ruth claimed somewhere that there was early whammy in GHM.

On some of the games (I forgot which ones) I have made a bunch of GHTunes customs to find out the whammy rate, and the results I get are very consistent regardless of if I hit the note early, on time, or late. Not sure if I tested the games you claim have early whammy though.

I've heard somewhere that at least on GH5, all sustains act more like GH3 on the PS2 version. Somebody will have to pick it up and verify this, and check the other games.

Also GH6 is weird. Ticks count up very slowly (with a large burst at the end) if the sustain is the last note in the song. Also it seems your console makes a difference. IIRC newuser1234 has a newer 360 whereas I have an older one, and he was able to get crazy scores on songs with reverse tick squeezes while he struggled on songs with normal tick squeezes.
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[ThunderShade]

Funny you say that, since I remember Kyl3Ruth claimed somewhere that there was early whammy in GHM.

On some of the games (I forgot which ones) I have made a bunch of GHTunes customs to find out the whammy rate, and the results I get are very consistent regardless of if I hit the note early, on time, or late. Not sure if I tested the games you claim have early whammy though.

I've heard somewhere that at least on GH5, all sustains act more like GH3 on the PS2 version. Somebody will have to pick it up and verify this, and check the other games.

Also GH6 is weird. Ticks count up very slowly (with a large burst at the end) if the sustain is the last note in the song. Also it seems your console makes a difference. IIRC newuser1234 has a newer 360 whereas I have an older one, and he was able to get crazy scores on songs with reverse tick squeezes while he struggled on songs with normal tick squeezes.
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[THABEAST721]

Well I'm not sure about GH:WT but Monsoon and What I've Done had squeezes that should have been easy, but were absolutely impossible for me. Van Halen just definitely has early whammy though. I was getting horrible scores on every song, but now that I've started early whammying, I'm getting near the top again.

I've never done anything more than play casually on WoR, so I have no idea how that engine behaves yet. I guess I will figure it out when I get to that game.
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[THABEAST721]

Well I'm not sure about GH:WT but Monsoon and What I've Done had squeezes that should have been easy, but were absolutely impossible for me. Van Halen just definitely has early whammy though. I was getting horrible scores on every song, but now that I've started early whammying, I'm getting near the top again.

I've never done anything more than play casually on WoR, so I have no idea how that engine behaves yet. I guess I will figure it out when I get to that game.
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[elScarecrow]

New school games don't have early whammy in the same sense that GH1/2/80s do, but I've found that you do get better whammy by hitting the notes earlier. So you don't get additional whammy from hitting the note early, but hitting the note early makes it easier to get full whammy.

For example, on GH2, you early whammy a 1-beat sustain, you might end up with 1.1 beats of whammy instead of 1.0 from no early whammy.
On WT, you early whammy the same sustain and you get .99 beats of whammy instead of .95 from whammying it "on time". The best explanation I've come up with for this is that new school games have a whammy "delay" of sorts in between hitting the note and beginning to whammy- you can minimize the loss from the delay by hitting the note early and kind of "stretching" the delay, which allows you to start whammying earlier.

Further, frequency of whammy matters on new school games, where it didn't on old school games. If you compare some of my videos to McSkinny's, he whammys very slowly and basically just gets a quick initial burst on sustains, whereas I whammy very quickly throughout the sustain.

TL;DR:
On new school games, whammy early and quickly in order to get the best whammy
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[elScarecrow]

New school games don't have early whammy in the same sense that GH1/2/80s do, but I've found that you do get better whammy by hitting the notes earlier. So you don't get additional whammy from hitting the note early, but hitting the note early makes it easier to get full whammy.

For example, on GH2, you early whammy a 1-beat sustain, you might end up with 1.1 beats of whammy instead of 1.0 from no early whammy.
On WT, you early whammy the same sustain and you get .99 beats of whammy instead of .95 from whammying it "on time". The best explanation I've come up with for this is that new school games have a whammy "delay" of sorts in between hitting the note and beginning to whammy- you can minimize the loss from the delay by hitting the note early and kind of "stretching" the delay, which allows you to start whammying earlier.

Further, frequency of whammy matters on new school games, where it didn't on old school games. If you compare some of my videos to McSkinny's, he whammys very slowly and basically just gets a quick initial burst on sustains, whereas I whammy very quickly throughout the sustain.

TL;DR:
On new school games, whammy early and quickly in order to get the best whammy
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